New toy!!

peewee let us all know.....

 

I should have mine within the next few days also. I can't wait to try it out. Slip in that SIM card and press!

 

I have one, and there is no wireless in it
it is not in the wireless power status, so i can't turn it on or off.
The "configure network adapters" in settings is showing "Pnasonic WLAN CF Module" but i can't turn it on.

 

Hey guys just got one myself waiting for it to arrive. and think its also from british gas...

 

I have just been sent a manual from the person I bought mine from and it seems to be the one for the CF-P2 that British Gas had.

So there is diffrent version of CF-P2 out there one with WIFI and ones without.

Here is a link to the other manual.

http://mcgcs.net/CF-P2.pdf

Right click and save as ......

 

Odd, the manual shows 802.11B for Wireless LAN with WEP and WPA support. It must be an option. The picture in the manual (page 5) shows the "Wireless Power Button" as either switching on/off Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, or just the phone.

Have you seen the info on page 39 of the manual?

 

This is the spec of the British Gas model, lifted from one of their press releases

CF-P2
CPU Intel® PA270 (based on Intel XScale™ technology
Memory Flash: 128/192/256MB, RAM: 64MB
Display 2.83“ 240x320 Transflective TFT
with LED backlight and automatic brightness control
Input Touch panel with replaceable AR film
NUMERIC keyboard with backlight
Battery Replaceable Li-ion battery (1950mAh/3.7V) Charge time; 4 hours (AC adapter)
Battery Life (Target) Talk Time 4hr , Standby 120hr
PDA 8hr (Backlit ON), 12hr (Backlit OFF)
Dimension 146-148 x 60-62 x 21-23 mm
Weight Approx. 185g
OS Microsoft ® Windows ® Mobile 2003 SE for Pocket PC Phone Edition
Wireless
GSM/GPRS MS Class 10
Bluetooth (V1.2) Class 1
Wireless LAN (IEEE802.11b)
Antenna External antenna support for GSM/GPRS (no support for WLAN/Bluetooth)
Interface
SD I/O Card Slot
USB device (via Cable or Vehicle mountor)
USB host (for GPS via Vehicle mountor)
(no serial, no IrDA)

 

So is someone taken these aprt and removing the wireless cards if so where are the wireless cards. I have gone thrugh e-bay looking for them .

Dose anyone know what type of card it was and how it was connected.

 

That's th one i have
There is also no sync cable included, i tried the cable from the Panasonic GD87 usb to serial with no joy, so it is almost useless as he wont sync with bluetooth either (phone software does not have the bt option in active sync)

 

if someone have the pinout for the connector, i can modify the GD 87 cable

you also need special a screwdriver to open it, so i can't have a look at the pcb for the usb pinout

 

hmmm... there is wireless inside these! mine showed the wireless lan in the radio onoff screen a couple of times, but clicking it would lock the phone, it then mysteriiously dissapeared! So i assumed mine was broken...

The panasonic os does seem a little crippled compared to a normal PPC2003 machine

have you tried connecting to the car kit and active sync with the usb connector on there??

 

No i haven't, i had no time to mount it in my car, i will try it tomorrow,
but i cant go to the car every time i want sync

 

Here are some extra batteries for ya

http://cgi.ebay.com/Panasonic-Tough...ItemQQptZLaptop_Batteries?hash=item1e5ae41c04

 

Springfield,

Very nice find. Will hope to get a set of them before they sell out.

 

Springfield,

Thanks for the share, just bought a set

If anyone find a data cable, let me know
I now sync in my car, but it is a pia not having the cable, i must go in my car with the laptop to sync

 

Keep in mind that the Wi-Fi is only the older 802.11 b and will not showup or work on some 802.11 G or N network adapters.

 

I have been using wireless for 10 years now, starting with being a UK technology pilot for nortel using $1,200 2mbit cards! (we were the only company demonstrating wireless at the uks largest education tech show! even out teching apple!! )

ive yet to see a G rated product that is not compatible with a 'b' card, but that is beside the point... the utility im talking about is on the device itself, used to turn the various wireless cards on/off (phone/BT/WiFi)

the screws look like the same sort nintendo use on the DS so im gonna have a look round the market tomorrow and see if i cant get me a tool to get inside...

 

I found part of the pinout for usb

viewing from left to right if you look to the bottom of the phone

1= ground
4= D+
5= D-

+5v =???

I have a connector from a Panasonic GB87 that has the same size, but without the +5 it does not work
So if someone find the pin for the +5 i will be very glad

 

All you have to do is connect a usb cable to the car kit and to your laptop you do not need to power the car kit.

the 5v will be the same one for the mains charger

 

i will try that, thanks

 

It is an option in some routers, DLink and Linksys for two, to cut off support for 802.11B.

 

That's right, but you said it, it's an option and nobody cut's it because it does not any harm to let it on

 

@ denrosten
It depends on your throughput
Wireless B devices on wireless BG routers slow any wireless G devices to B speeds



Alex

 

IIRC, the inclusion of 802.11b will also restrict encryption to WEP instead of WPA across the board.

 

Not necessarily. My router at home is using WPA2 for security and I am still able to go on line with my CF-M34 that has built-in 802.11b.

 

Quite true, although some users may not need 54Mb speed if they are not streaming video etc. Most ISP connections are less than 11 Mb so B works fine for web surfing. And B has longer inherent range capability, if that matters.

 

correct, mine is a Dlink and i get 54Mb/s in mixed mode with wpa encryption
see picture

oeps forgot the attachement

 

Well not "nobody" because I assure you that I know a fellow in Atlanta, GA USA that does, however my point was to just present another possibility.

 

Here it is

Btw, is there someone that have the usb cable for the CF-P2 ?
I found the usb pinout on the car handset (connects fine with an usb B cable)
but when i use the same pinout whit a homemade cable, it does not sync.
there must be other connections in the data cable, so if someone open up the connector and can give me a wiring scheme or picture of it please.

 

Would these work with Verizon?? just wondering, a toughbook phone would be great if they would. I believe Verizon uses cdma technology.

Thanks,

-DDAYMEN

 

Nope, these phones are GSM.

The Big Boys using GSM are T-Mobile and AT&T in the USA.

 

Oh well, don't hurt to dream...however, we have been having problems with Verizon honoring the insurance we were paying for my son's LG dare (yep, he lost it) so we might be switching providers..maybe the dream can be reality! Since I quite often use my cell phone at work, and have dropped it on more than one occasion (on my 3rd razor) a provider switch and toughbook phone might just happen!

 

Sounds good DDAYMEN..
I got a problem with my CF-P2..
Tryn to get it to link to my CF-18 via Bluetooth PAN...
pretty good kuz u use the mobile providers signal..
any ideas.. in the Bluetooth settings it says it supports PAN..
have done it plenty of times with my other mobile...(and gr8 thing is you don't get charged)

 

I have got the usb sysnc pinout by probing the car kit cradle

1= Ground (also noted by Derick)

4 = D+ (also noted by Derick)

5 = D- (also noted by Derick)

6 = +5 from usb (Derick this could be your missing 5 volts)

I can not test this as I do not have a connector to build this cable

 

Thanks for this one peewee3ie, i will try the pin 6 and report back

 

Peewee3ie, you are the best, it works
I did the +5 on pin 13 (like on the charger), and now made a bridge between 6 and 13, phone sync's and charge on usb

Thanks
Derick

 

Derick,

Disconnect the link to pin 13 as this is only for the charger (house or car charger).

you can tell the phone to charge or not to charge via usb by going in to setting - system - power - advanced

I have been doing more probing around and pin 13 is not power when on usb via car kit.

 

Oké, thanks

 

I found this on

http://modernnomads.info/wiki/index.php?page=OS Versions

"Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition

Introduced April 2004, it brought a more visual update to the platform. Major changes were:

* Ability to switch between portrait and landscape mode
* Ability to force Internet Explorer to use one column
* Support for the WPA wireless standard
AKU2

Introduced in October 2004, main feature is the introduction of Media Player 10, including the possibility to synchronize content."

windows mobile 2003 on the CF-P2 will support WPA

 

Here is some info that mite help you with you bluetooth connection

http://modernnomads.info/wiki/index.php?page=Use+your+Windows+Mobile+device+as+modem+for+your+laptop

 

Thanks peewee3ie. if get dis goin, will look at gettn Wifi goin, figers crossed..

 

Hi. I'm a newbie here and as my first post i'd like to thank you guys for the usefull information on this thread. especially the usb pinouts.
I've just aquired a cf-p2 as has a mate, his had the original british gas software on it which we got rid of by making a backup on mine and saving it to SD card then restoring his from my card. works great so i hope this helps others.
I'm trying to get tom tom navigator 5.0 to work on mine, it installs ok but doesn't see the bluetooth gps.
Bluetooth manager creates a virtual com port as either com 8 or com 9, that works fine and can be used by other apps but tomtom doesn't see gps on its bluetooth com ports. can anyone shed light on this? please!

the com numbers don't apear on tomtoms gps configuration screen, just says bluetooth serial port or bluetooth serial port#2

The same installation works fine on my axim x5 so it's not the gps that's the problem.
Bob.

p.s. i'm a toughbook nut. cf71/cf27 and now cf-p2.

 

I also opened mine up and theres no wirless card in there.

 

@ bigbadbob
I have not used Tomtom ,and I don't have the phone,but you need to find out if Tomtom will work on com8 or com9
Many applications will not work above com4 so you will need to configue your com posts to a lower number ,perhaps change the baud rate
Go to Tomtoms website,they may have configuration info


Alex

 

If you have the car kit, it has an usb port that works with any usb gps

 

Hi Guys and thanks for your replys.
TomTom works fine on either com 8 or 9 on my aximx5 so i'd expect it to on the p2 as well, however this is windows we're talking about so anything might happen. lol.
The only differance i can think of is the bluetooth managers are different but both create on com 8 and 9. and other apps work fine. i'm stumped.
bluetooth manager won't let me create virtual ports on anything other than 8 or 9.
I have the car kit but no usb gps to try in it, my only wired gps is serial. boo hoo. nice to know any usb gps will work though, at least it's not model specific.

 

Almost every usb gps uses an usb to serial adapter (inside)
drivers for this adapter can be found for win 2003

 

Hmmm... there's an idea. i've got an adapter. will give it a try. cheers.

 

Yipee... cracked the bluetooth problem.
you have to tell tomtom you're using a cable gps and then point it at the bluetooth serial port. simples. ;-)


http://www.totalpda.co.uk/forum/tomtom-navigator/3330-tomtom-5-setup-problems-bt-gps-read.html

Bob.

 

I made up a usb sync cable today too using an old GD92 cable. works just fine. Thanks again.