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    2015 Razer Blade 14 Wish List

    Discussion in 'Razer' started by mturkel99, Apr 17, 2014.

  1. Nivaku

    Nivaku Notebook Evangelist

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    Is there going to be a maxwell 870m?
    When?

    If so you think they are going to do a refresh with the better GPU?
     
  2. hfm

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    My guess we won't see a refresh until March-May 2015.. It seems they are taking that page from Apple's book as well.
     
  3. CATALANOpunch

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    SD Slot, 16gb Ram, Displayport/Mini Displayport - I would upgrade.
     
  4. hfm

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    Agreed.. 16GB just to stop the complaining about it :).. And improve the thermals and fan noise. Neither is a deal breaker honestly but those are the things I'd like, everything else would be perfect if left the same.

    Maybe a click pad instead of left/right buttons, but the pad itself is so good already I'm not going to lose sleep on that one. Switching back and forth between my new mbpr 13 and the Blade I have to say it's the closest anyone has come to apple's best in class clickpad.
     
  5. CATALANOpunch

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    Couldnt agree more. I installed a program, I think its called 2 finger scroll (maybe), but it simulates the gestures, clicking and scrolling options from a macbook - its awesome. I too swap back and forth between the two and it made using the Razer even more easy,
     
  6. JohhnyCashout

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    almost decided to buy a Razer Blade 14 this year instead of a Macbook Pro, but couldn't because of these issues with the Razer:

    -limited to 8GB ram
    -no minidisplayport/thunderbolt (I assume this means I can't run a 4K external monitor at 60hz)

    have to settle for the MBP with weaker GPU :(

    Razer, pls
     
  7. DenDen0000

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    I think 4k is too big resulion for notebook, 1920x1080 is enough. gtx 880m and 16gb ram will be chalenge. touch screen is for me just feature which i will never use.
     
  8. TheMightyKnight

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    I know some of these have already been said, but saying I also think they would be good gives these improvements more "followers". I would love a razer blade 14 with:
    -4k screen (amazing quality: you notice the difference in gaming, 3k is not enough I think)
    - but pls a matte screen, glossy makes it a pain to use outside, and in office environment
    - IPS IGZO of course (keep the quality razer! Well done!)
    - latest CPU and Maxwell GPU of course
    - 16 GB of RAM (for 2200$, it should be normal)
    - better thermals and battery life
    - Make a special logo for the blade 14, not the snakes, I know this is subjective, bit I realised it is a shared concern among consumers, a lot of logos can be more appealing than snakes
    - HDMI support for at least 4k gaming 60Hz (Hdmi 2.0)

    If Razer would be able to make such a laptop, it would truly be the only laptop I could call "perfect", thus justifying the high price tag.
    But so far I must say Razer is going in the good direction. Keep up the good work! I do not expect in anyway that such a laptop would be available before 2016 (because of obvious R&D limitations)
    I do believe Razer will be able to reach this perfect laptop standard, because the company has a true vision, the vision of a 2500$ laptop that would be the only choice for someone willing to spend this amount of money on a laptop, not on ridiculously underpowered expensive Apple products.
    Razer, we believe in you.
     
  9. CATALANOpunch

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    3k isnt enough? What?? The issue is how windows scales at a high res, and pushing even more pixels is going to require that much more power - which the laptop already doesnt have enough of for modern games at native res/60 fps. What GPU do you think we can get? Because we would need atleast dual 880ms, and even then we would have trouble.

    And yet you asked for a higher resolution...

    From a design and branding standpoint, the snakes are actually pretty great and unique. It would be ill advised to completely rebrand when your logo adorns 10 years worth of dozens of products.

    I think you have some great ideas - but they are in no way/shape/form reasonable, or in some cases - possible.

    Im with you on the ram, matte screen (although we'd lose touch functionality - which is great for turn based strat like XCOM, CIV, BANNER SAGA) and CPU upgrade.
     
  10. Kurdishninja

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    Does anyone know anything about the rezer blade pro 17'. I mean do you guys know when the 2015 version will be out?
     
  11. TheMightyKnight

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    Actually there are possible: I specified I wouldn't expect such a razer blade to come before 2016, but that I trust the company to add these improvements as soon as possible (2015) for most of them (16GB not that hard I think).
    Thanks for the good answer though, I totally agree with you, but the keyword in my post was 2016. In anyway, I am talking about a "perfect laptop", but if a company can reach perfection in laptop designing, it is razer.

    As of the logo, you are also right, but I do believe that a special "product logo" for the Blade could make good marketing, and please a larger base of customers.
     
  12. CATALANOpunch

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    There is something we both missed - a nice chroma keyboard. It would be awesome to be able to customize all lighting on the laptop (including the razer logo)
     
  13. TheMightyKnight

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    I can only agree to this.
     
  14. jashsu

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    I run my Shadowplay temp file on a ramdisk to prevent excessive SSD write, so would definitely get use out of 16GB.
     
  15. TheMightyKnight

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    All in all, here would be my wish list for the Razer Blade 14 2015, from the most important to the least:

    - MATTE screen 4K IGZO IPS
    - 16 GB RAM
    - Better thermals and battery life, that can be achieved thx to a
    - Maxwell GPU (gtx 970m sounds nice :))
    - customisable color lightning for keyboard and logo
     
  16. robohgedhang

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    1 . Matte non touch 1920 x 1080 screen

    2. 16GB ram

    3. Dual msata ssd
     
  17. agentxavier

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    Also USB Type-C connections would be awesome.
     
  18. krappei

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    1. Smaller bezel should allow fit for 15" screen in same form factor.
    2. minidisplay/thunderport.
    3. Micro SD slot.
    4. 16GB ram.
    5. Razer snake logo looks like an ugly sticker.
     
  19. BuggyLemon

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    - Remove the (useless) touch screen

    - 1920x1080 IPS matte screen

    - Reduce cost as a result of removal of useless features like 3K and touch

    - 16GB RAM or at least let it be upgradable

    - Thinner bezel

    - Add WiDi and NFC

    - Make the chassis less prone to smudging and fingerprints

    - Increase battery life back to 6h

    - DO NOT ADD ETHERNET (too bulky)

    - DO NOT CHANGE THE KEYBOARD (tactile)

    - KEEP HDMI
     
  20. tareyza

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    -16 gb ram
    -a cooling system that would keep temperatures below 90C on both cpu & gpu(maxwell & broadwell will probably help!)
    -minimum of 256GB of SSD to 1T+, preferably in M.2 PCIe, not M.2 SATA. also, a more reasonable price difference between models would be great
    -reduce price to be more competitive e.g. base price ~1900USD
    -.7 inches is already really small, a tiny increase in size for better specs/better cooling would definitely not be something i'd mind.
    - generally a better manufacturing supply/process, including more quality control on products.
     
  21. BuggyLemon

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    Oh and NFC too please...

    Please read this Razer, your customers want all this to have it perfect.
     
  22. caniko2

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    In Windows 10 there will be multiple desktops! So, they could make a multitouch tochpad just like apple to switch between desktops, awesome for productivity. Please do that, please make the tochpad multitouch, I beg you!
     
  23. CaptainKita

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    - 16 GB Memory
    - Razer Blade Chroma
    - SD Card slot
    -1920x1080 mate display (no touch)
    - fix that issue with the well known ticking noise on a few RB laptops
    - I can understand the high price, but a little drop would be nice
    - make it availeble in Europe

    With that fixed it would be the best laptop for me...
     
  24. neoideo

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    Here is my wishlist:

    - Linux support (drivers)
    - Linux OS option.
    - Amoled display at least 1080p
    - One piece alluminium chasis
    - Smaller on/off button, in a corner if possible.
    - Broadwell CPU
    - Maxwell 20/16nm GPU
     
  25. hfm

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    Maxwell 20nm isn't seeing the light of day until late 2015 at absolute best. They are just getting around to the full line of 28nm Maxwell mobile gpu soon.
     
  26. spectrablue

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    update to wish list
    980m (with the lower tdp reqs by embedding it?)

    oled screen ! (this might not be avail as soon as the 980/70m though:
    oled news :
    Andy Abrams:
    Samsung and LG to show new OLED products at IMID in Korea
    Samsung Display is expected to show a variety of new OLED products at today’s International Meeting of Information Display (IMID) in Goyang today, including Quad HD OLED screens ranging from 5.1” to 14”. The maximum screen size that Samsung has adopted for commercial OLED products is 10.5” for the Galaxy Tab S. We would expect Samsung to produce an OLED laptop sometime during the next 12 months, and the 14” OLED display mentioned above would fit the bill, particularly given its ability to increase battery life.
     
  27. arladeveze

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    9xxm SLI on the 17" & multitouch trackpad. Dont make the Apple users miss it.
     
  28. tareyza

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    personally, i would really find it better if razer lowered their prices. At 2700USD for an acceptable amount of hard drive storage, this is just priced too much for most. thinking from a purely economic standpoint, razer's products would have a very high price elasticity. There are many close substitutes (P35Xv3, GS60, etc.) and these are all priced substantially less than razer, the GS60 starts at about 1000$ in fact (IIRC). This is a luxury item, which from the price elasticity of demand standpoint also means a small price change will significantly impact quantity demanded, and to top it all off, is in a relatively narrow section of the market. From this point of view, Razer would attract a substantially larger market share if it lowered prices to RB 2013 levels, especially as much of its hardware (esp. the CPU) is generally thought of as inferior to slightly thicker gaming notebooks.

    And yes, that is really from their company's perspective, not a consumer's perspective. Decreasing prices for products with high price elasticity increases overall revenue. (This is a really basic concept for anyone who's taken an economics class.)

    I can see how Razer would want to price higher for the engineering that went into its notebook's design, but competing products are getting into the .8 inch thickness range, and are usually lighter than the RB. The RB is no longer the only option for relatively ultraportable gaming notebooks, and its price should really lower to reflect that imo.

    For some non-price points:

    The storage is really really abysmal. I mean, 128GB storage is bad even for entry-level laptops. Yes, its an SSD, but that's no excuse for less than 100GB storage on a $2000+ laptop.

    Also, imo there's no reason for razer to charge such a markup for the larger M.2 SSD storage and also make both RAM and SSD non-upgradable. Sure, the 512GB model probably makes greater profit per unit than the 128GB one, but it also significantly reduces the number of buyers for the RB in the first place. I know that for many, 256GB is not not cutting it in 2014, and 512 is barely enough. If Razer's supply chain is hitting its max production, then yes, there's no reason to cut prices. But it's almost certainly not and it could easily attract a much wider audience if it only increased some of the compromises in this machine.
     
  29. Lendari

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    - Keep optimizing the cooling and figure out how to get a 970\980m in there without throttling.
    - Offer 16GB of RAM as a build option.
    - Offer a FHD screen (hopefully same IGZO tech as the 3K screen) as a cheaper build option.
    - Split apart the headphone\microphone jacks into discrete ports.
    - Add a wired ethernet port.
    - Offer more storage configuration options\interfaces.
     
  30. nanias

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    I wouldn't say a 2015 wish list but a Razer Blade wish list, since some of them doesn't depend exclusively from Razer.

    - 14" touchscreen (once you get used to it you can't go back), FHD (or higher if the gamming capabilities like response time allows for it), 120hz (or higher) Gsync enabled panel
    - A way to disable the integrated gpu on BIOS using a muxed design for better game compatibility (some games don't like to see the intel graphics is there)
    - Connectivity connectivity connectivity at least 4 of the new usb 3.1 ports, card reader, display port (for gaming with gsync external), hdmi (for media), ethernet port
    - 16gb of ram and at least two m.2 ssd slots standard not option (reduces their production cost)
    - Illuminated power button and an activity light
    - Yet better cooling (even though it is the best among thin and light notebook) for stronger components
    - A higher watt psu keeping it tinny for overclocking headroom (even if only to benchmark due to heat generation)

    That's all for now if I remember anything latter when using mine I will edit this post. Cheers
     
  31. blcskate

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    15.6" since 14 is too small for developers and 17 is a pain for travel - 1440p+ Res - Touchscreen would be very nice too - for plex and netflix apps :) - High Quality display OLED would be definite buy, but even if not needs to be highly RGB accurate
    512 SSD - Samsung EVO or comparable - Really 512 SSD should be standard on a >2k machine (brand new the drive is ~220 on Newegg)
    16gb RAM
    970m
    ~4.5 lbs (going standard for thin 15.6 size)

    To my knowledge there are no gaming 15.6" laptops with a great screen that is also touch. That is sad :( The 14" blade with super high res seems odd to me. I would rather really good res on a bigger laptop. More real estate to enjoy said resolution.

    Price w/OLED 2.3k without 2k. Obviously a new screen tech would offer up a premium in price.
     
  32. TheMightyKnight

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    Razer, PLS, whatever you decide, change this:

    - a Matte display (whatever the resolution)
    - a 15 inch screen (14 is tooooo smallllll)
    -16GB of RAM
    -512GB
    - a price tag of 2k with these options


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    With a lot of new actors entering the market of light thin gaming laptops, and considering that although Razer offers a better build quality; the other options only cost 1.6k $; a fair price would be. 2k $ as said before with the mentioned specs


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  34. TheMightyKnight

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    Also, 1440p would be good enough if it permits to lower the price.


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  35. TheMightyKnight

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    And pls get rid of the touch display, it doesn't add any value to the laptop and must be a reason for price increase...


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  36. TheMightyKnight

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    Razer, here is the product I would buy if you keep such a high price tag, 8GB RAM, touch screen, a 14 inch screen:
    http://www.xoticpc.com/msi-gs60-ghost-pro-4k079-eta-early-november-p-7623.html

    The only thing missing is a matte display...

    As you can see this MSI laptop costs 2.2k $ with 256 GB SSD and 1TB HDD, it has a 4k screen and 16 GB of RAM and it's screen is 15.6 inches!

    I think we could reasonably expect razer to give us a 1440p screen with excellent RGB and MATTE with 16 GB RAM and 512GB SSD for 2k$.

    Razer saves money on the product thx to:
    - the 1440p screen
    - the non touch screen

    In exchange, we ask for:

    -matte screen
    -16GB RAM
    - 512 GB SSD Samsung EVO
    - 15 inches screen
    - 2k$ price tag or at max 2.2k

    The Maxwell architecture of 970/980m with 1440 p non touch screen and larger chassis for 15inches screen will permit better thermals and battery.

    Therefore, the client wins, razer wins, and everybody's happy!





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  37. Le Quan

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    GTX980M _ 16GB ram _ 512GB SSD _ Broadwell quad core @ 2500$ and Razer can have my money :)
     
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    MXM GPU 970M/980M, socketed CPU, removable RAM, RGBLED 1200P screen
     
  39. FoHMike

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    One browser with 30 tabs? You ain't doing nothing ;) During the day when I'm working I have 2-3 browsers open with 30-50 tabs, + teamspeak, skype, email client, steam, notepad, maybe a game or two alt-tabbed, photoshop, pictures, etc. I can easily kill 8gb of ram, no problem. Don't assume that everyone uses a computer the same was as you!

    The reason I didn't buy the 2014 blade:
    - runs too hot
    - HDD is too small (I require at least 2 hdd slots for dual drives)
    - Not enough RAM

    My wish list is for the above 3 to be solved, but even then I likely wouldn't buy it unless it came with hardware macro keys, like the Aorus X3. The X3 just does everything better at the cost of only a few mm's.
     
  40. jashsu

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    If you don't mind the increased thickness or reduced build quality, the X3P does have all around better specs than the RB2014. The difference in build quality seems pretty tangible though. Here's a good review: Gigabyte Aorus X3 Plus review - a beastly 13.9-inch gaming ultraportable

    I was seriously considering returning my RB2014 and waiting for the X3P, but now i'm okay that I didn't.
     
  41. jashsu

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    It should also be able to make french toast.
     
  42. lamanian

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    Gimmie a razer 14 with a 1080 ips non touchscreen, 16 gb ram, 970m card, i7 4710 or better, get rid of the razer logo on the cover as it seems to take away from the sturdiness of the laptop maybe add an Ethernet port for gravy with a 512 ssd and keep it around 2k usd id probably bite.
     
  43. hfm

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    This sounds like the most realistic ask. I would say we're never seeing an Ethernet port again, get a $30 USB 3.0. Be nice if Razer just threw one in the box to shut everyone up. And the 3K+ panel is also here to stay. I am playing all my games at 900p, they look fantastic. I highly doubt they will "regress" to a lower resolution panel. We need to keep pushing Microsoft and app devs to support hidpi by pushing the hardware out.

    16GB and 970M I would imagine are definitely happening.
     
  44. lamanian

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    I just don't see any reason for a 3k panel on a 14" display, everything way too small in full resolution. I say cut back to a 1080p too cut down on cost, although u may be right I guess that would be technically moving backwards. As far as Ethernet its not really a big deal either, the main thing is try to improve temperatures and battery life with the new Maxwell Gpu.
     
  45. robohgedhang

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    I agree 100%.

    1. FHD matte non-touch screen.
    2. Nvidia 970m.
    3. 16 gb ram.
    4. 2 msata slots.

    The current QHD screen is too much.
     
  46. aethelbert

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    You've basically described the Gigabyte P34W in a nutshell.
     
  47. lamanian

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    Yea except the p34 doesn't have the razer blade build quality. Not that the p34 is anything to complain about, it just doesn't have the MacBook like chassis..etc.
     
  48. lamanian

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    Maybe they could feature 2 versions, a 1080 ips with the 970m to focus on decent performance and great battery life, and a 3k ips with a 980m to focus on great performance with so-so battery life.
     
  49. hfm

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    What's stopping people from running games at 900p or 1080p? I do.
     
  50. robohgedhang

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    What's stopping me? The annoying out of memory error, the messed up UI after running games at 900p/1080p, the awful UI scaling in Windows, and everything else related to QHD resolution in Win8.1.
     
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