2019 Razer Blade 17

I'm not so sure a new cooling strategy will do it. I have LM on my RBP which has dramatically lowered CPU/GPU temps but the chassis still gets far too warm for the battery. The whole chassis is a huge heat sink and really heats up. Even at idle, the battery temp is far too high for longevity. It must be very challenging to thermally isolate the CPU/GPU cooling system from the surrounding aluminum body as there is so little space to work with.

 

Even though heat is not good for a battery. Swollen batteries are mostly caused by overcharging and or bad battery chemistry/design. I wouldnt attribute it directly to hear, Macbooks have a similar design but are in general fairly consistent regarding battery quality,

The Blade 15 isnt too bad regarding case temps, it is warmer than lets see the Triton 500 or AW M15 but similar to a Macbook. During idle the system is barely warm to to the touch. But the heatsink design of the RBP is quite unique and also reversed, which seems to make the contact area with the chassis larger.

 

Well from my experience* my blade 15 only seemed hot to me when I ran the Nvidia GPU, if I wasn't the running the GPU the system didn't seem all that hot. Granted this perspective is from a everyday usage type behavior not benchmarking behavior or even gaming or "Casual Gaming"

Like I'm only playing Heathstone these days, and it shocks me actually how hot my Blade 15 gets when I play a simple game like Hearthstone as compared to watching videos, surfing the web and doing emails.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/posts/10787242/

1. Someone at Razer recognized a problem and implemented a solution, or...
2. Someone at Razer reads forums and should contact me for payment.

 

Pulled the trigger on the 2080 version, says it ships May 31 but hope it's sooner than that. Adding 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD once it arrives.

 

This thing is almost 3 kg ! a tad heavy

 

Quite happy with the 15 inch so haven't pulled the trigger I suppose it's not really a laptop anymore once you go 17, if by chance I could keep PSU on my 15 inch laptop I would be more considerate towards the 17 I really don't want to go to a larger PSU even if it is slimmed down. The PSU is the same right between the old 17 PRO and this one?

 

Looking forward to more reviews on this thing. Availability still set as "Notify Me" on the Australian Razer store.

Honestly this would have 100% been my new machine if it had a G-sync option.

 

Same in the UK, despite Razer assuring me it would be available in May. As soon as I see some sort of confirmation regarding the colour quality of the screen it's in the running for my next machine.

 

Has noone recieved one yet?

 

It's been 3 weeks since Dave2D reviewed the new Blade Pro. Where are all other reviews?

 

I was really hoping to see some detailed reviews before purchasing, but there's very little information about this laptop out there apart from the end of April announcements. I currently have the Aero 15x v7, but wanted a larger screen (17") for gaming. I don't usually order until I see some reviews, but feeling impatient. I placed an order for the 2080mq model this morning as soon as I saw that they were accepting orders.

I'm a little apprehensive about 1080p @ 17". While perfect for gaming, I would prefer higher res for work related tasks. If the 17 isn't enough of a step up from the Blade 15, I may return and order the 15" 4K OLED version along with an Asus XG17 17.3" portable monitor for gaming.

 

I just got mine yesterday and setting it up now.

I just changed from the blade 15 to this since temps supposed to be better and I prefer the second m.2 slot for more storage.

First impression is that its a fair bit larger than the 15 (as expected) but still what I would consider portable...

Built quality is excellent and temps are lower than the 15 ( same 9750h cpu and 2080 MQ gpu) . The gpu runs noticeably cooler and with higher boost clocks in 3dmark.

I will post some 3dmark scores and temps when I have the time to really test out the system

 

Ah, brilliant!

My biggest question in whether the Pro is quieter/same/louder than the RB15 under load (ie playing a AAA game). Using both balanced (my preference) and gaming profiles.

Like TheGrouch said above... I usually wait for proper reviews before making a purchase like this... but I'm getting extremely impatient!

 

Nice! Would love to see the temps after a prolonged stress test, like Prime95 and Furmark at the same time.

 

I was wondering why they haven't sent more out? Dave2D is a smaller channel so it seemed like they wanted less coverage? Not sure why as it would appeal to alot of people.

*Looks at your profile picture* Hey wait a minute. What's your unit number?

 

I watched this one the same day it was uploaded

 

Looking forward to your impressions!

 

I don’t have the Blade Pro but here’s my impression
2080 maxq Firestrike rangking
Full fat from mxm 2070 mobile 9700K rangking. Take a look Graphics score, it’s atm beats all those tank laptops
@Papusan, @Raidriar intersted on this Jokeblade Pro 2019

 

Really interested in some 2060 / 2070 benchmarks too.
It seems their vapour chamber cooling is no joke.

The 2080 would be best of course... but the price is off the hook in Aus.

 

I’m not sure why you are comparing a 2080 max q to a full 2070, you should compare to a full 2080 instead. It’s no “joke”, a decent computer while it lasts. I have zero faith in razer CS. A real shame because I am considering RBP 2080

 

I enjoy using my blade but once I need support, I will just call my insurance. It is so annoying that in general Razer Blade parts are not available for the public in a similar way as you can find Alienware, Dell, Asus parts etc everywhere on the web by a large amount of vendors to fix issues yourself.

 

They start Razercare store, for system still only recovery stick but I smell it’ll be expanded to parts, finger crossed.

Comparing with 200 tdp gpu . I think it’s unfair, from temperature I think they can put full fat gpu like some MSI laptops actually but maybe still traumatic with past 1080, and keep one adapter solution Or maybe they’re preparing something big beside Studio

 

Finally, it's here: https://www.notebookcheck.net/So-mu...azer-Blade-Pro-17-Laptop-Review.424150.0.html

 

Not read yet but 90% from notebookcheck is

 

Great score. I’ve settled on the MSI GS75 over this though. I love the MacBook like design of this, however, at 500 euros cheaper when configured the same, better QC and most importantly, warranty in most European countries, I just can’t justify the premium. Too bad Razer doesn’t ship to most European countries.

 

The unit looks legit. Clearly the vapor chamber is working wonders and the additional fans would give me confidence that the battery won’t immediately balloon up. The trackpad on the 2017 was not a great idea and the mechanical keyboard switches SUCKED. I would view the screen as a huge upgrade for gaming. The 2017 4K panel was one of the worst gaming screens I’ve seen in a long time. So. Damn. Slow. Looks like this one has a good response time. I don’t much care about the ****ty webcam or lack of volume roller switch.

I do wish it had a 32GB option. Looks more like a 17” version of the Razer 15 than a “pro” version. A good machine, but not a pro machine.


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I had some time to run same basic benchmarks in balanced and performance mode:

1) Firestrike results, CPU/GPU temps and GPU power draw n balanced mode:


2) Same in performance mode:


During CPU test and the last test the CPU power draw went up to 60-70watts, hence the 90C CPU spikes. Higher score comes mainly from the CPU, funny thing is that GPU seems to draw less in performance mode 93 vs. 100+ Watts)...need to test a little more as to why, I have set synapse both to high:

 

Those cpu temps are not great considering the 2 extra fans and extra room of the 17. I was considering getting this when the creators version comes out with i9 but these temps don't encourage me much.

 

Wow, that balanced mode score is immense, considering it only hits 43-44 dB.

How is the wrist temp? Relatively cool?

 

Those peaks don’t mean much. Need to look at averages to get a better feel. I think the temps look quite good TBH.


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HWinfo isnt great for checking average temps. Check the curve in Afterburner or XTU. But still the peaks are higher than expected, also compared to the 15inch version.

 

The peak temperature may be vary, may be caused by bad thermal job, ambient temperature, how good laptop can intake air and outputting it etc.

Last 2 scenes Firestrike are mainly cpu tests, combined one isn’t push gpu like on Graphics test, so maybe that’s why it pulled lower wattage on those scenes. Yes over 4Ghz @70 watt cpu tdp may spike the temperature a lot, that’s why I feel they should bringing back manual Fans control on that Synapse, auto maybe because synapse 3 is still beta it’ll buggy sometimes.

 

The wrist temp is still ok...the top portion does get hot though, I don’t have the meter to measure the actual temp.

The cpu 90c spikes is due to the sudden increase in power draw and I can hear the fans winding up more at that moment but too slow/late... I personally think thats just intel tdp nonsense of the chip needing much more power when loaded and boosting, 45 to 70watts is a sudden 55% increase in load, unless the fans are always at max there will be a delay in cooling and temp will spike.

I have not set my own cpu undevolt yet, lets see if can optimise...

The gpu lower power draw on performance mode could be due to the cpu drawing more power and total power limit cutting in..? I don’t know the gpu temps are good so it should be able to boost clock higher. I can run again in performance mode and set only gpu to high and see what’s the response.

I intend to run witcher 3 next and see what the cpu/gpu temps are.

 

I keep the system in balanced mode during daily use including playing games since I prefer lower noise.

I have no regrets having bought this over the Alienware 51m, I am a stickler for design and case quality (IMO the razer edges out the 51m due to its full metal body) and its still perfectly portable with a nice big screen and (enough) storage option.

I can only recommend this system.

 

I was surprised to see they automatically OC the video card 100 core 400Mem. Install Afterburner and you will see that is default.

 

I noticed that the memory is set higher in performance mode but not the boost clock.. ...need to spend more time but work is hectic right now. In general I am not sure if it makes a big difference due to the power limit for the max-q cards.

I am not sure what to use for the cpu undervolt, for my previous 15” with same cpu Razer already applied an undervolt of -100mv, I usually use XTU but wanna try throttlestop this time.

 

They did it already on 2018 Blade 15 by 100 core and 300 memory (gaming mode), but not on 15 rtx 2019. I think I saw also other manufacturer doing this, new acer Helios?
This mode is the mode i want to avoid playing Ubisoft latest triple A titles on my Blade 15 1070mq for spiking cpu temperature to 90ish even with undervolting.

 

Anyone who can post some 2060 / 2070 scores?

I swear, sometimes I think NBR is full of Saudi Arabian Princes.

 

This’s the same mobo Firestrike score from 3Dmark, I took the highest one, it may difference tweak like repasting, bios moding, Synapse setting etc.

Lol

 

That remark is kinda off, also not friendly. It takes tiem and effort for others to provide you with scores. You also could await benchmarks from review sites.

 

I think he’s saying that he thinks there are a lot of rich people here, so not really an insult. Correct me if I’m wrong though lol

 

Lisa review for 2060 model.

 

What do you think about this news?
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Razer...Blade-and-Blade-Pro-AC-adapters.426448.0.html

 

My blade pro 2080MQ power brick does get way hotter than any of my previous laptops. After extended sessions I can't lift hold it for more than a few seconds at a time.

I wonder if this is actually a defect or do they usually run this hot? Since I don't have anything to measure the surface temperatures I can't give exact numbers but it does not feel normal for a brick to be this hot.

Those with the new blade pro, does your power brick get unusually hot? Would be nice to hear from others on this.

 

I have a new 17” and also a 15”...on both models the power brick gets very hot, similar to what you describe.
I was concerned when I first got the 15” and had Razer send a replacement, the replacement was just the same, I then tried a colleagues power supply (he also has a 15”) and got the same results. Either every power supply is faulty or this is how they are designed to be.

 

My 2017 RBP brick gets very hot. Always has. Clearly, they all run like toasters.

 

This is the price you'll have to pay for the nice and slim adapter design(as well probably cheap components). How long it will stay alive with this awful temps doesn't matter for the ODM. I'm not even sure they will cover a new psu if you went with extended warranty.

 

That’s pretty bad and maybe not even 100% safe