2019 Razer Blade 17

Damn that is bad... A component as such sustaining those temperatures without a cooling solution for an extended period of time? Interesting to see the longevity of the power packs.

 

I answered my buddy PM by did this while playing around an hour game, it’s warm but not hot and ambient was around 28 degrees summer out there. Only this’s not rtx Blade, it’s blade 2018 1070mq first batch.

Anyway on daily usage in this one year I hold keyboard mouse or controller not power brick

230 watt Blade power brick is enough for me to complain its size compared to Blade 14 165 watt and stealth 65 watt one, I want more compact power brick and hate they made such huge one

 

Hi, does soemone know how to solve the "Power Limit Throttling" ? I have the Razer Blade Pro 17 (2019) with 2080MQ. Overall performance is great. My TimeSpy graphics score is 9000 points. Unfortunately the Blade cannot hold 3,9Ghz per core. It is always power throttling and I wonder y? Someone knows how to resolve this? My temperatures are good enough to get higher clock speeds.

 

Try undervolting using Throttlestop.

 

Blade Pro 2070mq almost reach “last” most powerful 2080mq laptop gaming FPS...apparently , on work not see the full video.

It’s set on Bios. 9750H is still new wait till someone do such thread, or try ask exchange with @hackness your vbios, as a return ask him how to get rid that power limit throttling on 9750H . He made the original 8750H imon tweak.

 

It implies if people that own these laptops only care about status and not about how good it functions.

But running benchmarks for others, post finding etc takes time and effort and he takes that for granted.

 

I was going to return my blade pro 2080MQ but after my benchmarks I decided to keep it, just because it scored really high...

 

Oh well, I didn’t interpret it that way

 

https://imgur.com/a/tBrTbJu

So is this a fire hazard?

 

I wouldn't feel safe with these temperatures honestly, that's just crazy hot

 

can someone verify the TDP of the GPU. 90watt or is it higher? HWinfo64 should show max and average values

 

Based on scores and some people's review, the 2080 and 2070 should be 100W. Correct me if I am wrong

 

Is it noticeable on GPU-z?

Like how the 80w and 90w 2080 Max-qs had different base and boost clocks?

 

Nope it looks a ame with Asus GX701 90 watt base and boost clock frequency.
Razer

Asus


You can check on HWinfo64 pulled gpu power to see it’s 100 watt or 90 watt...or maybe more. Only its little brother 2070maxq can reach that gx701 2080mq performance according Jarrodtech review.

 

If anyone who has the 2080 Max Q Blade could share the vBios, that would be awesome and greatly appreciated!

 

+1

Please

 

I dont think it shows up in GPUz. Its curious that

Real actual info from someone that owns one. Average gpu power draw at full load....
Once we get that info we'll have some facts.

 

It’s really tempting getting to this areas joining Asus and Blade Pro. No one can hit 24K Graphics score yet

You don’t need this Furmark on notebookcheck gpu test shows it’s capped on 100 watt and can spike to 120 watt average may not correct since this is still optimus laptop and gpu won’t work on several cases, and with gpu overclocking it may boost over 1,6ghz, I saw 2080 on my core can easily surpass 2ghz but it’s not fair comparison maybe it can be OC closing 2ghz.

 

Some power draw for you: https://imgur.com/a/EGcgKJr

 

So it's confirmed then. 100w tdp with spikes to 125w

My 90w averages 89.9 with spikes up to 108w. So this seems in line.

Will be interested to try the vbios out if anyone is kind enough to extract and share it here.

 

I would love the bios as well I’ll flash it in my 15” after a apply LM

 

For cpu its all power limited...

Ran prime95 in performance mode and with undervolt of -100 (factory set by Razer) I got 70+ degree with max core frequency 2.9ghz and steady (...like a wall) power limit of 55watts...

Changing undervolt using xtu to-150mv gave me max core frequency of 3.3ghz at 70C with same 55watts power limit

Anyone knows why in xtu cpu boost multiplier is greyed out...? Is bios locked and if yes how to circumvent..

 

Lol.. you're not wrong. It obviously wasn't meant the way Rinneh interpreted it.

Just looking forward to hearing more about the specs I "might" be able to stretch my budget to

 

You should be changing icc max and tpl. Slide them all the way to the right along with turbo duration.

Removing the power limit does indeed yield a big boost. I got an almost 20% performance jump in cinebench R20 performance (2708 -> 3229) by removing the cpu TDP limit on my GS75.

 

So what did you mean by it then?

 

Exactly as YoungStarDC interpreted. NBR is a funny place... due to it being for enthusiasts, you tend to hear the most about the top spec machines. The Area51m thread is a good example - hardly anyone talks about the 2060 in there.

 

Well, it's logical. If it's a thread about a high-end gaming laptop then high-end specs are going to be the talk of the thread.

As for the Area51m, if people cant afford the top end spec, they will probably spend it on another laptop with a 2080 like a GE75 rather than a 2070 A51m. Or a 2070 GE75 instead of a 2060 A51m.

 

Could you try running a benchmark with synapse uninstalled?

Will it run at 90w+ or 100w+ then?

 

I think its natural...to share experience, a bit of healthy competition showing benchmark results and then the simple pride of owning a top end piece of hardware...where else to do that?...most family members get glassy eyes when you wanna share the technical details and why its so great (...at least in my case..)...its a hobby

 

So that's still the same as what i said. So rich people dont care specs or performance?

 

Haha, funniest #metoo ever.

Still not what I said, but thanks for the giggle.

*EDIT*
If English isn't your first language, I apologise. I sometimes forget this is a global forum.

 

My God lol, he was just saying in a funny way that he thinks most people here are rich. It was a joke. Nowhere does he say that he thinks that people don't care about specs or performance. Please let it go so we can continue the discussion about the Blade Pro's GPU.

ON: anyone here who already owns the Blade Pro with 2080 MQ?

 

After using it for a while in summary I like it in terms of portability its ok, screen is nice, added m.2 slot is great for my steam collection and gpu runs fine and with good/reasonable temps.

Things I don’t like that much:
- Fans are loud in performance mode even when using a stand for better cooling and in an aircon room environment
- cpu temps are too high for my liking with spikes to 87-90c when playing AC Odyssey and other games, it happens when the cpu boost to around 3.9 to 4Ghz. Like I said I likely will try to cap the boost multiplier to stay below 80C. Compared to the blade 15 with same cpu/gpu the casing surface near the exhaust vents doesn’t get that hot but cpu temps are still high

I may try a repaste too in the future...

 

Can any one post a 2080mq bios I want to try to flash it on my 15”


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Repasting would give the best results.

My GS75 dropped 16°C (92°C -> 76°C) in stress tests and 20°C (90°C -> 70°C) in gaming workloads after repasting with liquid metal.

Remember that by lowering the temps, you will also be lowering the fan noise as they won't have to spin as fast.

But before that have you tried undervolting the cpu using throttlestop?

 

This is still with razor factory undervolt of -100mv...

I believe if I undervolt more the cpu may just boost higher to maximise to the power limit and then temps may still be high? ...hence I wanna limit the boost multiplier too

I have not used throttestop but will try, there are many sharing here on how to use

I don’t intend to repaste with liquid metal, i have done that for my previous AW17 R4 and yes it really helps for the cpu especially...but that laptop was not carried around that much so I have in mind to try std stuff like phobya or kryonaut

 

Oh, I didn't know it was undervolted from the factory. Try pushing it a bit lower maybe. And the purpose of undervolting is to drop the TDP draw at a specific clock speed, so you either get a performance boost if you're tdp limited, or a temperature drop if the cpu is already at max boost clock which seems to be your case

By the way, you can easily lower the max turbo clock too in throttlestop. Just go into FIVR and it will be on the bottom left.

And yes, you can use kryonaut too. It won't be as low but i expect it should drop to the low 80s or high 70s.

 

Thanks I will try that

 

I think if the gpu runs full at its 100watts the system simply hits the limits of the cooling capacity for the cpu...sooo need to tune and find the right balance for the cpu as I mentioned before the 45watts tdp is...”nonsense” once cpu boost above base clocks its hungry for more...

 

Yup, an i7 8750h drew up to 80w at max all core boost.

That said, I've unlocked the cpu power limit in my GS75 and even with unrealistically high loads like stress testing with prime95+Heaven 4.0 it's not thermal throttling. When gaming it hits about 78 max and that's it.

So a good enough cooling solution should handle things fine.

I edited my top post by the way.

 

Which GPU do you have?

 

He has the 2080 Max-q it seems

 

Thanks, missed that post Do you have a link to how to extract the vBios? There was a post on here but I can't seem to find it. @Evertbie could share your vBios?

 

Yes its the 2080mq

What tool to use to extract the vbios?

 

NvFlash

Yeah here.

 

It’s super easy GPU Z, one click it’ll be saved on your document folder. Give this as well to Blade 15 user, I believe rom size would be same and gpu model as well with 2080maxq on Blade, the problem if it doesn’t blown joke, since it’s only 10 watt difference I think it’ll be fine.

 

That seems easy enough indeed!

 

@ryzeki @Gr4dy Come follow this post!

 

What is this?! I have been summoned. What's up?

 

No idea, but if we get that vBios, things could get very interesting!