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    New Razer Blade & Razer Blade Pro

    Discussion in 'Razer' started by neoideo, May 30, 2013.

  1. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    No there are 512gb modules by Samsung already and they have been out since January just for OEMs only.

    Mushkin and a few other companies make 480gb Msata drives as well and Crucials 480gb drive will be out soon .
     
  2. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    exactly, that msata was pointed to me on other thread i really didnt see it at first, I can only hope that I can change that and put 2 m500 480gb in there, if I manage to find someone to bring that to me
     
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    Crucial has had a 512GB M4 mSATA drive for nearly a year already. It's looking like this 14" is actually sporting a full quad core CPU, and standard 256GB based on the spec page. So it might be a worth a look if the 512GB upgrade isn't too substantial. I still hate the fact that you can't upgrade the SSD yourself. My biggest concern for this little guy is temperatures though.
     
  4. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    I have never seen the 512gb msata one for sale anywhere in all my searching and i have scoured the web for large Msata drives.

    If you have a link of where they sell it pass it along.
     
  5. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    me too, aside the price after taxes as well. According to the reviews it doesnt sound like a jet engine, which is good, but I want to see the temps

    and a cat psych, the damned cat just pooed in the middle of the kitchen
     
  6. DeadOfKnight

    DeadOfKnight Notebook Enthusiast

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    This looks like an attractive product launch, but I still think it's a good idea to wait because it should only get better and cheaper over time. Every year the razer blades have significantly reduced in price and mSATA SSDs are still pretty expensive in higher capacities. Of course the waiting game sucks, but you can get a cheaper G46 in the meantime with better cooling. Cooling is the only thing that worries me with this laptop. They can make all kinds of claims but the way Turbo Boost and GPU Boost work I have a feeling that this laptop isn't going to run at its full potential as it is definitely going to get hot and chances are it won't even boost at all. The display resolution is adequate but I think it's insulting to put anything lower quality than an IPS panel in a notebook in this price range, and even if gamers don't care for touch input, I don't see why you would leave it out of a notebook running windows 8. Looking around I see the same criticisms and so will they, so I'd say give them some time to iterate on it and we'll likely see a much more attractive product next year and hopefully reduced costs. Maybe they will increase their manufacturing capacity and chips are only getting smaller and more efficient over time.
     
  7. Fr3netico

    Fr3netico Notebook Consultant

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    I am excited to see some real life performance a design reviews.. I am most concerned with the battery life

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
     
  8. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    thats one thing that doesnt really concern me, its a 70wh battery, rmbp 13 is 74wh, with a power sucking screen. this machine got optimus and haswell, if they are not lazy, they can design a good mobo that it isnt what asus usually uses in their notebooks a power gobbling mobo, and design something like what thinkpads have

    heat is my primary concern right now.
     
  9. HTWingNut

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    My sincerest apologies. There are no Crucial m4 512GB mSATA drives. :( I don't know what was going through my mind at that moment.

    Although I am seriously considering this machine depending on what the Clevo comes priced in at. The MSI 14" is $1200 with a 1600x900 screen and 760m. The Clevo has 1080p screen and 765m and is 13" not 14" so it may be more expensive. If it comes in at $1400 + $400 for 512GB SSD, that puts it up with this Razer. Of course it depends on what the Blade with 512GB costs. I really didn't want to spend more than $1500 though for a machine like this, so we'll see. I like to tinker with my toys and hate to void my warranty with the Razer just by opening it up.
     
  10. Quadzilla

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    It's fine man, and most of all i know i am not losing my mind now :thumbsup:
     
  11. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    512gb is 2200, I guess you just scratched one from the list
     
  12. 1rarebuy

    1rarebuy Notebook Guru

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    14 inch razer blade ftw. So, my questions are.

    1. Is the RAM soldered? What are the specs on that RAM (clockspeed)

    2. That screen didn't seem to wow many websites in terms of intial impressions. Is it as bad as it seems or are they saying that because of its price?

    3. I'm not really sure what the 765M is, or even how it compares to the previous gen 660 or 670m. How much of a unnecessary premium is razer charging for this
    GPU that the first few posters had to complain?

    4. Does the logo on the lid glow? I cannot sleep with it on then, which is a bummer. I'm not crazy about the snake logo, but I don't mind the black and green too much.

    God it needs a review now!
     
  13. dkris2020

    dkris2020 Notebook Evangelist

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    Ram is 8gb 1600 mhz ddr3 soldered..I assume

    Yeah the hd+ means you can run games better at native res, at the same time the new alienware laptops are supposed to come with fhd ips displays, hopefully for the 14" display as well.

    765m= 670m

    The logo should glow up.

    Sent from my HTC6435LVW using Tapatalk 2
     
  14. Benchmade 42

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    Will this come with an Ethernet port and card reader?
     
  15. 1rarebuy

    1rarebuy Notebook Guru

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    No on the ethernet port, as said by both anandtech and a my cursory glance over the ports. I'm guessing no go on the card reader as well, though I could be wrong on that one.
     
  16. Benchmade 42

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    Good info Thanks.


    Btw does Razer North America charge sales tax for the previous razer blade buyers at their website and not Amazon or any resellers.
     
  17. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    1) yes, there are sodimm slots

    2) both probably, and there are limited screens that fit that thickness, look at the review of the thinkpad x1 carbon its what we are probably getting

    3) In Review: Nvidia GeForce GTX 780M, GTX 770M & GTX 765M - NotebookCheck.net Reviews to get you some ideas, its in between the 670mx and 675mx, both are kepler and more powerful than their fermi cousins, the 670m and 675m, by quite a distance too.

    4) dunno
     
  18. rfielder

    rfielder Notebook Consultant

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    I am finding the 14" Razer very interesting. However, I need RAM - 8Gb may not be enough. 16Gb would work, 32Gb would be better in the long run. Knowing what the machine tops out at would really be good. The specifications for both new Razer laptops are....vague would be putting it nicely!

    Although it is marketed as a gaming machine, the specs makes it good for photo editing and video editing as far as I can see. For me, having the power in a very light package makes it a killer deal - means the machine can go everyplace with you, which means it gets lots and lots of use, which means it is a good investment.

    As long as it will spend it's time running your apps, not swapping memory, that is.....?
     
  19. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    whats vague about these

    Razer Blade

    Specifications -
    Screen: 14'' - 1600 x 900 matte
    Processor: Intel Haswell mobile processor Core i7 37w quad
    Graphics: GTX 765m Optional 2GB NVIDIA with Optimus
    OS: Windows 8
    Memory: 8GB RAM max from factory (soldered)
    Storage: SSD start at 128GB up to 512GB
    Weight: 4.1lbs (1.8 kg)
    Dimensions: 13.6" x 9.3" x 0.66" (W x D x H) 345mm x 235mm x 16.8mm (W x D x H)
    Ports: USB 3.0 (3) HDMI
    Price: Starting at $1.799
    Availability: June 3rd 2013
     
  20. fatlardo

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    Cmon, lets get some reviews bout the temps!
     
  21. Fr3netico

    Fr3netico Notebook Consultant

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    Is there an adaptor that I can purchase if I need Ethernet connection?

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
     
  22. rfielder

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    What is vague - to me - is what can be upgraded.

    Maybe I am reading it wrong. Are these specifications locks? No way to order different CPUs, or amount of memory installed, or any other changes?

    For example - is the SSD a single 2.5"? Or an mSATA? If it is a 2.5" SSD, are there any mSATA ports inside?

    In other words - is there is only one configuration for this laptop, with the only variable that will be allowed is the size of the SSD?

    Also - I am surprised that there is only HDMI for video. I would have thought a gaming laptop would benefit more from DisplayPort than HDMI, given the multimonitor flexibility you can get out of one DisplayPort.
     
  23. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    nothing can be upgraded, you can try to get better msata drives, aside that nothing, and doing thus voids your warranty

    its clear from the pics that there are 2 msata slots, nothing more

    me too, I would actually preferred if they with thunderbolt, more ports on those docking stations that are available now, its a big plus for me
     
  24. SpartanJet

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    Surprised they didn't sell out their initial batch yet. They usually have a day after their release.

    I'm on the fence myself with the Blade Pro. Its almost perfect aside from the lack of display port, TN screen, and I would have prefered something like 16gb for a $2500 system. Its so tempting to order anyway but I'm going to try and hold out to see the laptops being released this next 1-2 weeks.
     
  25. Macpod

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    Disappointing....the final specs are out on the razer site.

    Looks like the Pro will only have the 4700HQ which is the worst 47w processor available. I really thought they would have gone with the 4800MQ. There are hardly any performance difference between the 4700HQ in the blade pro and the 4702HQ in the 14inch blade. Infact the 4702HQ might be a more expensive part since it is mroe efficient.

    This makes the price of the blade pro even harder to swallow.

    Review Intel Haswell Processors - NotebookCheck.net Reviews


    Looks like MSI is trying something similar. This trend will hopefully drive down the price of the blade and give it better features. The MSI has two display ports a card reader. I cant believe the blade pro doesn't have a card reader!

    Computex 2013: MSI Launches GS70 17" Gaming Notebook With GTX765M Graphics | PC Perspective
     
  26. dkris2020

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    Interesting to see MSi try this. Is there only gonna be a 17 or will there be a 15" model like the other ge/gt series. Also will this be out by the end of the month cause I need a new computer NOW! Oh and is the ram upgradeable?

    Sent from my HTC6435LVW using Tapatalk 2
     
  27. Macpod

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    Im going to wait for the R2 version. Hopefully with 16gb ram, ethernet and Displayport. HDMI is a really strange choice for the only output
     
  28. fusoyaii

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    agreed. awesome build and glad to see each iteration of the Blade come down in price with notable upgrades, but still too many compromises (TN screen, lack of ports, lack of upgrade options).
     
  29. Hookerlips

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    Well considering this isn't going to push much more than 1080p at its intended purpose (gaming) this kind of makes sense to me. Lots of monitors and tvs have hdmi or dvi connections, ie I believe it is more ubiquitous
     
  30. Macpod

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    I think it's easier to find a mini display port to VGA adapter at a conference than a HDMI to VGA adapter though. I have had my saved a couple of times this way. There is always someone with a Macbook......

    But It's true there are more HDMI monitors than mini displayport

    Although i think we can all agree a thunderbolt/mini display port should make its way onto the blade sooner or later.

    For now. If i were to buy the blade 14. Id also get one of those USB 3.0 docks with DVI and ethernet.
     
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    Lack of ethernet port, card reader, and optical drive ruined it for me but i still like it and there's still a chance i might choose it over the other 3 that i'm thinking of buying.

    1.) m13x or m14x r3
    2.) msi ge40
    3.) clevo 13"
    4.) razer 14"
     
  32. Supermiguel

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    I currently have a Sony Z3 laptop (256gb version of it) and a i7-3930k, GTX-680, 64gb of ram desktop

    Think about selling both and getting that edge pro 17" laptop... Wondering if its worth it :( it def looks bad =_+

    On my laptop i do alot of programming, and on my desktop i have a double monitor setup that i do programming and game (I play Eve, Wow, and League of Legends)

    I cal probably get 2k for my desktop and around 1k for my laptop. So ill be right at the right price for the 17" 512gb blade pro
     
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    You already have a top of the line gaming desktop. The 765m is fast for a thin laptop, but a few times slower than the gtx 680. It's a massive downgrade in terms of graphics performance.

    So unless your gaming machine needs to be mobile, or you wouldn't mind a much slower GPU since you don't play very demanding games, it would not be worth it IMO.
     
  34. Macpod

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    I say sell it fast before it depreciates. Keep the monitors. You obviously don't need the desktop for what you do right now. The 3930k is only worth it if you overclock it like crazy and do rendering with it.

    The Blade pro docked with the twin monitors through a lenovo USB 3.0 docking station (twin DVI) should be sweet
     
  35. Karamazovmm

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    and thats why I wanted a thunderbolt port, flexibility
     
  36. Supermiguel

    Supermiguel Notebook Evangelist

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    How well will this laptop play eve ?

    Also I use my laptop 90% of the time and my desktop just few minutes everyday at night and on the weekends to play eve and league of legends ...
     
  37. Nick11

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    My Razer Blade R2 with a 660m can top out Eve....

    If your like me and don't care about playing the demanding games with full graphics "Crysis 3, Metro, etc." than there is no reason not to go with the Blade.

    What people need to realize is not every gamer needs top of the line graphic performance. A lot are like me and play less demanding games like Skyrim, Wow, Diablo, Eve, etc. If this is all you play how can you justify getting a big bulky laptop with a 780m in it which you never use to it's full potential.
     
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    Some say it glow, But from all the video I found, the lego looks like a sticker.
     
  39. 1rarebuy

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    Just to add to my earlier comment, I also have to take this into med school and wards occasionally. If it is just a sticker then no problem, but if its a backlit logo, then meh. It's not a total deal breaker anyhow.

    Anyone have a link to threads that deal with covering up the apple logo or other glowing logos for work? I remember reading a couple a long time ago on here. Ty for the help!
     
  40. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    use some of those black tapes and place a sticker on top of it, that should do the trick
     
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    Does anyone know if the battery is changeable ? I might buy the 14 inch Razer Blade, but for that price I hope to keep it 5 years. Batteries lifespan varies a lot, so I'd be happy if I could change it in a few years.

    If users can't change it manually, can Razer do it ?
     
  43. Karamazovmm

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    razer should do it
     
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    I want to know which has a better screen
    Razer blade pro or Mac book pro retina display or Alienware m17x ?
     
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    MBP and M17X (the new one) have IPS panel, the razer blades have TN panel.
    In theory, IPS panel is better than TN.

    i found this video on youtube very useful for understanding the difference.
    LCD Monitors IPS vs TN Panel difference - YouTube

    In practice, this difference will be noticeable or not depending on the quality of the screen. A bad quality IPS panel can look worse than a good quality TN panel. Razer's TN is supposed to be of good quality,
    source:
    Hands-on with the New Razer Blade and Blade Pro Gaming Notebooks - HardwareZone.com.sg
     
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    Do you guys think there is any chance that we would see the 2nd razer blade selling cheaper online now that the 3rd is coming out?
     
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    Why? Because they didn't go thin and ultrabook like razer? Maybe it has something to do with properly cooling a quadcore cpu and the high end gtx gpu which explains the heavier and thicker chassis have you ever though about that?

    We will see if that 4.1lb super thin razer 14" laptop can really game for long hours w/o any throttling and heat and even fan noise issue and it must be tested properly by real time gamers using msi afterburner, hwinfo etc....
     
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    I don't think its just that they didn't go thin. They are pretty ugly. Not sager ugly but I don't see any reason why they couldn't have a thicker machine that doesn't look quite as tacky like those front grills they insist on having. Personally other than the screwed up port positioning, lack of optimus support, and spotty customer service I think the Asus G750 looks much better than the Alienwares if I were going to go for a thicker machine. But of course everyone has their own opinion on what looks good or not. As far as looks go I think Razer is pretty much ideal.
     
  49. Macpod

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    Yes, im also very interested in how the cooling on the blade 14 handles everything.

    Im dissapointed at AW because they didn't try anything new from an engineering perspective, the m14x remains a single fan solution. seems like they only concentrated on giving the new Aw line up a new skin. and it looks like an asus gaming laptop from 5 years ago. Light everywhere plus arbitrary angles.

    Im sure the new alienware will continue to have good hardware and cooling. But they;ve always had it. It's not hard to put a chunky radiator in there.

    comparing the m14x next to the blade is a joke. especially now that we know the m14x will not have dual cooling which means it will probably only come with a GTX765 or 770 at most. which means in games the difference between it and the blade will be minimal.

    M14x does have alot of advantages. namely the wide array of ports and possibility of a higher spec CPU, plus 16gb of ram and a diskdrive, optical etc.
     
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    Sorry if this is a noob question, but can i upgrade the SSD on the Razer blade 14" or add another SSD to it later? 128 or 256 GB seems like something that i would run out of pretty soon.
     
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