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    Razer BIOS Mods - Potential to Unlock All Hidden Options

    Discussion in 'Razer' started by stranula, Nov 10, 2019.

  1. bpvarsity

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    Correct
     
  2. amihail91

    amihail91 Notebook Evangelist

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    Unfortunately I have not found a way to not be reliant on Synapse - it's controlling the fans on some deep level which I can't understand and if I'm not in gaming mode the extra 2 front fans don't turn on at all. As far as TDP is concerned, there's no way to edit it higher but there's a way to trick the CPU into thinking it's using less watts than it really is - have you checked that thread?
     
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  3. gibber75

    gibber75 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi,
    can you please send me your 1.01 bios file?That would be great.
    I want to flash from 1.12 back to 1.01.
    I upgraded my bios today without checking forums before doing so.
    Now undervolting not possible anymore.
    I have the same model like you, 2020 RB 15 Advanced.
     
  4. MagillaGorilla

    MagillaGorilla Notebook Consultant

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    My programmer arrives on Tuesday, can't wait to unlock some options.

    Interestingly, I am having issues flashing the 2080smq vbios from the RBP17 2020 onto my RBA15 2020. Flashes fine with NVflash, but the clocks
    Hi, just PM'ed you the link to the 1.01 BIOS, but I don't think you'll be able to do anything with it as we've determined the only way to flash the BIOS is with an actual Chip Programmer.

    Take a look, and let us know if you find another way.


    My programmer gets in tomorrow!
     
  5. SUADE8880

    SUADE8880 Notebook Evangelist

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    Geez...I will pay anyone here to flash my bios back to 1.01. Having XMP is hardly a gain but a tremendous loss having UV disabled and I'm noticing a 5-10% performance drop overall. Grrr....
     
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  6. MagillaGorilla

    MagillaGorilla Notebook Consultant

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    No need to pay someone, just order the Programmer (between $10-20 USD) and I'm sure you can get some help from myself and other forum members!
     
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  7. amihail91

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    With a machine *that* locked down there is no other way except programmer.
     
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  8. SUADE8880

    SUADE8880 Notebook Evangelist

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    Alright, I’ll order one in. Thanks.
     
  9. gibber75

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    Great, thank you.
    I know that I will need a programmer and I already ordered one.
     
  10. Emtee_

    Emtee_ Notebook Enthusiast

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    Also ordered a programmer, see what is possible. Can always come in handy for other things in the future!

    Should I read and save my original bios ASAP before starting to mod and tweak? :D

    Mhh the TDP (Gaming profile) function here on the 2020 stealth doesnt actually boost the max TDP, it just seems to change the duration of the turbo limits it seems. Also doenst change the fan profile here, literally just TDP duration. Unfortunately it wasn't adjustable through ThrottleStop, all is ignored. I guess it depends on the model on what synapse does per profile.

    I haven't actually checked the thread, could you link it? Thx!
     
  11. amihail91

    amihail91 Notebook Evangelist

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    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...f-your-razer-blade-w-no-pl-throttling.827919/
     
  12. Emtee_

    Emtee_ Notebook Enthusiast

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    Emtee_ Notebook Enthusiast

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    So other than the BIOS stuff which is not working without a programmer, the 'magic' would be in these Windows power plans? Kind of hard to believe it would affect things much, definitely no up to 40~60% performance gains in things like Cinebench. Unless something in Razer's bios is tuned intentionally to work badly with windows default's power plans.

    However, I do have my Windows script unhide literally every possible power plan option that exists, so I'll look it.

    ps. I did obtain roughly 15~20% extra cinebench marks from just undervolting it all :)
     
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    Didn't realise programmers were so cheap. Delivery up to 2 months tho, haha. Also ordered one.

    Yes, iirc if you flash someone else's BIOS you risk getting their serial number in your BIOS and this can cause to Windows activation issues and unexpected things happening.
     
  15. liftbikerun

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    Running into an issue with the very first instruction, pulling the original bios.

    Razer Blade Pro 2019, 1.04 BIOS.

    Getting the following error:

    [​IMG]

    I searched around and couldn't find any definitive answer....
    [​IMG]
     
  16. amihail91

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    Gonna be honest, 90% of the magic is in the BIOS hacking - unlocking Ultimate Performance plan in Windows is no big deal ...

    Pull your chip contents with Flash Image tool instead - make sure you get the right version here: https://www.win-raid.com/t596f39-Intel-Management-Engine-Drivers-Firmware-amp-System-Tools.html
     
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    Which version of ME is your Blade running?
     
  19. liftbikerun

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    Assume that's what you're looking for?

    [​IMG]
     
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  21. Emtee_

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    Received my programmer from Amazon today, took 3 or 4 days i believe.

    But the torx T5 i bought was too weak to even unscrew anything and grinded it down hard (Without damaging the screw) so I'll had to buy a more quality version... still waiting :-/

    I hate torx.

    Does anyone know if the programmer is self-powered to the chip it hooks onto? I assume the laptop has to be off off.
     
  22. amihail91

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    It's powered via USB dude, you're gonna need another machine - preferably Linux for more reliable flashes IMO.
     
  23. Emtee_

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    I know its via USB, but I ment if the actual dongle itself powers the chip or whether you had to have the laptop powered (maybe in standby) on in order to flash it, but I guess that answers that :p

    Another PC is not an issue here. I do wonder if its safe to do in VMWare (Or any VM software).

    Last time jailbreaking my iPhone it didn't like doing it through VMware so it might not be entirely safe.
     
  24. Scott.Faulkner45

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    Great thread, big thanks to OP for the walk through!

    Just upgraded my late 2019 Advanced to 32GB 3000mhz G.Skill, however I’d already modified the BIOS so unsure if XMP would have been visible without making the changes. Have got advanced overclock menu visible but only for memory.

    One thing I can’t seem to make visible is the CPU settings for undervolting. Even though I’d made all options “USER” they don’t seem to show. Any ideas? Bios version is 1.05.
     
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  25. liftbikerun

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    I finally got things worked out with the initial instructions, the only part that is left confusing is the two final steps with Final_BIOS and Modified_BIOS.

    "BIOS Binary Modification" has you save a Final_BIOS.

    But, "Moving a hidden menu to your main screen" has you edit the Modified_BIOS image.

    Is the hidden menu optional, or should the hidden menu instructions have had you use Final_BIOS?

    Thanks!
     
  26. Emtee_

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    Alright, got everything I need, was ready. But I came onto an obstacle once I clamp the attachment to the chip, the led on the USB device dimms and the software says the device is disconnected.

    I only have two chips exposed on the bottom, and one looks to be too small to contain the bios, the other is a winbond.

    I didn't break anything but it looked like it shorted due to the led dimming? Pretty sure I dont have the pins reversed.

    Not sure how, or if i even want to proceed at this point :eek:
     
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  27. liftbikerun

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    I don't suppose anyone has an answer to my previously posted question below...?

    -------

    I finally got things worked out with the initial instructions, the only part that is left confusing is the two final steps with Final_BIOS and Modified_BIOS.

    "BIOS Binary Modification" has you save a Final_BIOS.

    But, "Moving a hidden menu to your main screen" has you edit the Modified_BIOS image.

    Is the hidden menu optional, or should the hidden menu instructions have had you use Final_BIOS?

    Thanks!


    Sent from my SM-N975U1 using Tapatalk
     
  28. MagillaGorilla

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    It is nerve wrecking, lol.

    Some of these programmers are real cheap, and as a result may be of shoddy quality. - noisy cable, sloppy soldering etc..
     
  29. Emtee_

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    Yea possibly. Got this one from Amazon, though it would be safe. Was like 25usd~.

    Maybe some voltage issue? looks like a 3.3~v chip.
     
  30. stranula

    stranula Notebook Consultant

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    The hidden menu is optional, only need to do if the menu option you want is not under the "Advanced" header. If you do need to unhide it, then make the modifications to Final_BIOS. I'll update the instructions
     
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    https://mega.nz/folder/Q9kxgLxT#RP3BQ--iVY7E6NVnsgY4qA

    Mine Razer Blade advanced 15 2020 2080 maxq bios 1.01


    Now waiting for programmer, If any one can hint with some info will be very thankful.

    When programer came I need to read dump with 1.01 then update to 1.03, read modify and flash right? And someone already make vbios mods its worthy for 2080 max q?
     
  32. gibber75

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    Can anyone tell where exactly on the razer blade 15 2020 advanced the bios chip is located?
    Do I have do remove the heatsink or even the entire mainboard in case it is on the backside of the mainboard?
     
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    Ok, found the chip and flashed my modified bios with a CH341A programmer.
    Bios undervolt and also disabled power throttling with Bios 1.03 works flawlessly. :)
    Great forum!
    Thanks
     
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    :)
    Would be great info if you could write up the tutorial or point out where to look. Incase someone need it :)
     
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    Will write a summary later.

    Before the Bios mod Cinebench score was 2980, now with the modified bios the score is 4079.

    A huge improvement!!!

    Stability test With prime95 was done and max temps in gaming (Call of Duty MW / Doom Eternal) have not increased.
     
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  36. SUADE8880

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    Yes. A step by step tutorial would be great. Thanks ahead.
     
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    thanks, looking forward to it

    right, and maybe with some visual will be even great !
     
  38. Emtee_

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    Yea would be great! Also what exact programmer you used.

    Maybe it is similar to the Stealth 2020 (or somewhat). Wouldnt be surprising if they used much of the same components for this stuff.
     
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    Do write a summary . Will be much appreciated
     
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    4079 :O ... what model is this on?
     
  42. TriBeard

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    I am also very interested in a guide/step by step. I'd love to do it but just don't know where to get started really or how to use a flasher.
     
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    Can someone upload a picture of the chipset and highlight the bios chip in the 2019 Advanced blade? Also does accessing the bios chip need vapour chamber removal ?
     
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    +1 please post guide where is chip with bios and what modifications do you make in bios
     
  46. Metalocalypse

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    It seems I brick my motherboard :D

    I connect programmator with soic8/sop8 clip, not unplug notebook battery and motherboard battery, maybe not connect right from first time, then just read chip and after that notebook wont start, just led flash if press 10 seconds power on button :D

    Any idea what is happen?

    Can any one please send me dump from 2020 Advanced model 2080 max q 300hz, very need :) rz09-03305e43

    upd. Find bios in updater 1.03
    upd2. Dont help, still wont turn on.
     
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    Hi,
    are you sure you connected the correct chip?
    I attached a photo of the chip location.

    I also did NOT unplug the battery and had no problems.
    I could read and save the bios with the clip from the chip and I also tried to boot after saving and had no issues, so maybe you flashed the wrong chip???

    Flashing did not work in the beginning and I learned that I have to erase the chip before flashing.
    The first time when I flashed I did not erase the chip I had the same issue like you, just the green LED was flashing and screen stayed black, no boot, nothing.
    So you have to erase the chip first, after you saved the bios.
    Apperently you were not able to save the bios, so I will send you the bios dump I pulled with the programmer.
     

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    Very important to place the clip correctly on the chip.
    The pin1 is marked red in the attaced picture, pin 1 is not where the green dot is!
     

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    Razer Blade 15 Advanced 2020
     
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    "It seems I brick my motherboard"

    Hey Metalocalypse! I want you to try something, a last ditch effort and diagnostic step, to make sure improper bios flash is the problem, and not a digital logic problem.

    1. Unplug external power
    2. Unplug battery
    3. Unplug Bios battery
    4. Hold power button for a bout 10 seconds to drain static power.

    Now, without plugging anything else in, plug in external power, and wait about a min. If a power event happens (a reboot or successful POST), unplug external PS, plug everything back in, and re-power computer. It now will likely boot to login.

    If no power event happens,unplug external power, plug bios battery in, plug external power in, and see if a power event happens. Again, if it reboots, disconnect external power, plug everything back in and power normally, Finally, if no power event, plug everything back in and check one more tim3 for a power event.

    I’m a laptop technician, and this is basically a HARD RESET (what Dell calls ‘self-heal’). Computers deal with logic, and devices can get logic locked in many scenarios. All this does is clear any logic lock that may be preventing POST after powering on. Yes, likely your laptop is bricked, but it could just be logic locked. Give it a try, you've got nothing to loose. You’d be surprised how many times it’s worked for me.

    Good Luck!!!
     
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