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    Razer Blade 15.6" (GTX 1060/1070, 2018 edition) Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Razer' started by X33nbat, May 20, 2018.

  1. Nyceis

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    Any chance you could upload your scores so we can see all the details?
     
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    Thanks for the results up until now! This isn't very impressive, unfortunately. Still, it be great to see it set to High Performance in Windows and Gaming Mode in Synapse after you've updated everything. It be great if you could post some new results then!

    Lastly, are you planning on doing a repaste?

    He said NOT scorching to the touch :)
     
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    As far as repaste goes I may, yes. I don't have anything on hand right now as I wanted to see this fully stock and if I do it will not be with LM, I'm not that skilled or daring anymore.
     
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  5. Nyceis

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    That result is much, much better. Still pretty hot on the CPU but at least the physics score is better. How are the fans and noise now?

    Thank you so much for your efforts!
     
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    Yeah the results make me feel a little silly - didn't realize that Synapse would be slowing things down.

    The fan noise does get loud during benchmarking. I'm going to play some actual games on it to see what the real world is like since they likely won't stress like benchmarks.

    Temperatures are definitely still hot, yes. It might be a really bad factory paste job though. I'm waiting for others to begin tossing out intel before I do a repaste.
     
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    When you say loud, exactly how loud? Any chance for some ear-level db readings? Is it at least quieter than last year's model (I hope)?
     
  8. YoungStarDC

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    Now that's a great score! Better then both the Aero 15X and the MSI GS65 and only slightly beaten by the ASUS Zephyrus M GM501 which has a full blown 1070 instead of MAX-Q. I think a good Conductonaut repaste + Fujipoly Thermalpads will bring this down to hopefully mid 80's when it comes to thermals. Thanks for the efforts up until now!

    Have you already tried the speakers? And how are the keyboard and trackpad?

    @Donald@HIDevolution these results may be of use for you guys as a minor baseline! :)
     
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  9. wickette

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    ...Again with the 90°C+ ?

    I'll pass, it's a shame this laptop seemed perfect (too perfect...)
     
  10. Assault

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    Nice score, glad I'm returning the GS65 and ordered the Razer :cool: I'll be repasting with Kryonaut as soon as I get a stock baseline, too.
     
  11. YoungStarDC

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    As I'm sure you're aware, any and every thin and light gaming laptop is reaching the same temps. There are no exceptions here, unfortunately. That's why an undervolt + a repaste are necessary. The Aero 15X, ASUS GM501S and MSI GS65 all have the same issues. The same goes for the Aorus X5 V8, which is closer to a 17 inch.
     
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  12. dgreen9

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    Keyboard - very nice and firm. Easy to type on. The placement of the right shift seems to be a little further out than I'm used to, but I will get used to it.

    Trackpad - excellent. Nice and smooth feeling. Superior to XPS 15 9550 (what I'm coming from)

    Speakers - no complaints. Really smart placement next to the keyboard. So much better than downward facing speakers.

    While playing Rift (I'm fairly lame) the fans are not too loud and the laptop from the top is only warm where you would put your hands. So while the internals are getting hot for sure it's really not uncomfortable from a user perspective.

    I'm down to -.135 undervolt now and the temps are a few degrees cooler again. Trying to find my low point. I have a feeling that this laptop is an excellent candidate for a repaste.

    Here is an updated score at this level: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/15593948

    [​IMG]
     
  13. Assault

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    Is that 37x multiplier how you set it? Seems like a good place to keep temps low. I had my i7 8750H down to -.155 undervolt, i think you still have some room to play there, looking forward to your results!
     
  14. YoungStarDC

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    Great to hear about the trackpad and keyboard.

    It's edging even closer to the ASUS, nice! Yes indeed, a repaste seems like it will do a lot of good. The only things left to test is the battery life, I imagine! You have the 144hz FHD model, right? How does it compare to your XPS 15 (was it UHD or FHD, by the way)?
     
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    The GM501 and the MSI GS65 do not reach those temperatures after a 3D mark test ;). I'm sure they reach high temperature in some demanding games after an extended period of time, but here the laptop jumped to 90°+C after few minutes of 3D mark..not the same thing sorry.

    I really want that razer blade btw but I don't want something that will throttle and bother me just when I want to relax after a long day of work. I do take into account the fact that it's maybe harder to repaste since it's a vapor chamber heatsink.
     
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    I guess its true when they say you can't change the stripes on a zebra.
     
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    The uncore ratio shows 37x in his tests but I don't think that's indicative of the core ratio. Some of his other screenshots showed 40-41x for the core ratio.
     
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    If a single core ever showed its max ratio, it should reflect as 40 or 41. Which is why I was confused seeing 37, Im thinking he lowered all core speeds down... I need to see a line charts!!
     
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    That's true, good point. I hope we'll see some thermals when gaming, which should give us a good idea of where we can possibly go with a repaste. I've got both this and the Zephyrus M on order at HIDevo, but I can't decide on which one to go through with. So the sooner we see some more OP, the better :)
     
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    Screen is much nicer than xps15. I had the fhd XPS and the 144hz fhd Razer.
     
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    FYI, thermals are being posted over in the Razer Systems forum thread. They seem high to me compared to what I've seen from a GS65 anyway
     
  23. dgreen9

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    It's going to be a few hours before I can post more updates. Away from home for a bit. I'll post pictures vs XPS and thermals from gaming.

    Also I haven't messed with multipliers or anything. Just the undervolt.
     
  24. YoungStarDC

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    Thanks for the update, I'll keep a look out here and the other thread for a the result!
     
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    Can you link me? Can't seem to find the thread you mentioned.
     
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    Temps can push a little high. But there are still better then what the 14s was achieving.
    Anyway it’s good to see the max q doing about 10% slower than the full 1070.
    With no undervolting on FS I get... [​IMG]


    All on stock in my aw15.
    Just need to know what that touchpad be like to use since I love dedicated buttons. My only draw back from the unit.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  27. dgreen9

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    Here is 2:45 of Rift on high settings. Smooth gameplay and whatnot. The outside of the case is warm, but not uncomfortable. Fans are around medium.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Temps look fine, but I’ve never played Rift. It doesn’t seem particularly heavy, though. Is that correct?
     
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    It actually shouldn't be that heavy but seems poorly coded and really does work out the CPU. XPS throttled like crazy trying to run it and a 6700hq/970m Sager doesn't even slow high settings with smooth gameplay.
     
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    Anything below -.135 undervolt isn't stable for me. Reboots during Fire Strike or locks up in XTU.
     
  31. YoungStarDC

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    I see, that's promising Are there any AAA games you could test out? With Razers track record of abysmal cooling, it be great to see how modern AAA games hold up. Sorry if I'm asking too much by the way, if you're not up for it, no worries.
     
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    I'll see what I can do in that regard. Might grab the Witcher finally.
     
  33. YoungStarDC

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    That'd be great! Besides being an amazing game, The Witcher 3 is heavy on both the CPU and GPU, so it should make for a nice test to see the thermals :).
     
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    I have a favor to ask; can you lookup the display model number in Device Manager? I'm curious if this is truly a different panel from other manufacturers who have 15.6" panels or if Razer is rounding 94% SRGB to 100% for marketing....
     
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    Panel is an LGD05C0. Same as Gigabyte at least, right?
     
  38. Nyceis

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    Thank you - it is exactly the same panel as the Aero 15X which is a good panel. Was secretly hoping for the one Asus put in the GM501 with its 7ms response rate.

    Any backlight bleed on yours? That seems to be a persistent complaint on the Aeros.

    N
     
  39. YoungStarDC

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    It’s indeed a good panel. Hopefully backlight bleed is less of an issue.
     
  40. dalingrin

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    Keep in mind the backlight has as much or more to do with gamut coverage. So you can have the same panel with different quality backlights and end up with very different results.
     
  41. Nyceis

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    I did not know that; thanks for enlightening me! It will be interesting to see what notebookcheck says when they review it. It'd be great if Razer was able to nudge it to actually hit 100%. They had to know they'd be checked on that claim, right? :)
     
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    Definitely some backlight bleed, but I actually had an Aero 15x for a few days and it's was much more apparent. Not sure this is too different from the XPS. It's only noticeable on fully black screens.
     
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    That's a shame about the fan noise. I suppose it's inevitable. Physics...

    Is it at least quieter than previous Blades? Is the noise profile annoying or whooshy? Might have to wait and see what notebook check and dave2d have to say.

    EDIT: I also can't find the LGD05C0 Panel anywhere like Panelook. I guess it's not available to purchase anywhere yet.
     
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  44. dalingrin

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    How would you compare the screen brightness to the XPS and Aero 15x?
     
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    I mean it's an unscientific naked eye test, but I think the Aero/Razer are both a bit brighter than the XPS 9550.
     
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    I’m just afraid to buy Razer again, last one (late 2016 blade) had a failed motherboard after less than 2years of owning it, was crazy loud and hot, and caused me tons of problems while I owned it. Battery ****ing exploded as well. Just seems like too much of a gamble with their bad quality control, didn’t Linus review it and like 75% of the blades he had needed an rma at least once? It’s ****ing ridiculous
     
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    It's slightly unnerving for me due to everyone else's experiences, but I'm searching for the best warranty I can get on it before it arrives. I'm considering going with SquareTrade unless I find something better.
     
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    Where is the 4k panel version?
     
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    Nice score but bad Thermal, it likes playing AC Origins without Undervolting on my Blade 14 2017. I heard that gaming mode is kind of OC-ing, Core 100 and memory 300, if that’s right, I can understand why that cores are hot.
     
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    Yes LG display on older version is really bright, had problems to find external monitor that could match its brightness, i find 4K monitor also from LG that could match it.
    A bit question, is the backlight logo could be turned off with synapse?
     
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