Razer Blade 15.6" (GTX 1060/1070, 2018 edition) Owner's Lounge

Just got mine.
Slightly noisy power brick.
Slightly sunken S key??
Playing Battlefiled 1 with standard settings throttlestop says the CPU reaches 86c However the bottom of the laptop gets hand burning hot.
This is while sitting on a hard surface while plugged in.

I've read through this whole thread and picked up bits of advice and various things to try but...

Are there any standardised settings that are commonly agreed which would be good to apply using something like throttlestop that will decrease the heat while maintaining decent performance.

There's loads of ideas in lots of posts but I can't find one set of instructions that I can follow to help me.

 

Working on multitrack audio is not really a light task so I want to know if there is an option to really limit or disable the fans.
I read about fans starting up randomly, even in quiet mode, this would be a deal breaker for me.

 

I have 2 suggestions:
1. Place something under the back of laptop to raise it up more from the table. More circulation leads to less heat.
2. Decrease the clocks on the CPU. It doesn't look like BF1 has a built in benchmark, but you can limit the multiplier step-wise and test performance drop in game to find the limit of performance vs temperature for the game.

 

I would not worry about the cable going over the heatsink. The cable is literally just a piece of metal with electrons flowing through it - a simple conductor. It is not a silicon semiconductor with sensitive electrical properties that vary based on heat, voltage, and other factors. As long as the connectors are solid and secure and there are not any kinks or turn radii that are too tight it is fine.

(source: I am an electrical engineer)

 

Thank you, that puts my mind at ease. Now if razer would just up the ante on customer support.

 

I would not be worrying about the wire within the display cable that is true. But the insulation could get brittle after many cold/heat cycles.
Then if moved it could then crack and cause issues .
Mine gets so hot underneath it becomes impossible to keep my hand upon it. I need to learn how to undervolt!

 

I’m more worried about the battery swelling like other Razer laptops. I mean with all the heat around it yikes. The palmrest area was scorching when I used it. Hopefully someone has info on that

 

Battery bulging isn’t only Razer issue, it’s nowadays lithium battery owning risk, Asus, Gigabyte even Apple has similar issues. Warm/hot area i think because of aluminum unibody that took heat from parts inside. Luckily i don’t have Any battery and heat issues owning Blade so far.
Source: Having 3 different Razer systems (Blade, Edge, stealth) since 2014.

 

Have you added thermals pads to the ssd? It is super easy and makes a big difference to SSD temps and palm rest temperature (the ssd is right under the left palm rest)?

There is a guide on Reddit.

 

I've got the pads from Amazon but I was thinking that the bottom gets So hot already I'm debating of it will help actually adding even more heat to it??

 

So my CPU is showing 86c playing battlefield which is not to bad.
So can I ask all of you does your laptop get really hot underneath?
I mean to hot to hold your hand on it.

 

Unfortunately this is the issue when the chassis is one large heat sink. The bottom though should not be an issue as you really should never be touching it while gaming, After about an hr of Far Cry 5 my keyboard gets pretty warm to the point it's almost unacceptable, This was one of the reason I did not keep the 17 pro with 1080, but it got hotter than the 15.

I may get a usb fan to attach to the side and blow on my keyboard for gaming? It's Ghetto for sure but I don't know what else would work?

 

I do this myself, it keeps your hands from getting all sweaty too. Seriously worth it

 

You have a link to this?

 

Actually I found a link to a NVME to usb enclosure. Anyone tried these? I would like to clone mine when I upgrade.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Alu...USB-SSD-Hard-Disk-Drive-Case/32884307172.html

 

Hey guys, is anyone having a problem getting RSST OSD to work? its really becoming annoying not being able to monitor my temps and clocks in-game, and i read that it could be a razer synapse and RSST conflict, but i dont know how important Razer Synapse is for the Blade

Also one or both of the fans are rattling at low RPM, thinking I might have to get a replacement from amazon

 

Does anyone know how the cooling works on the RB? I'm going to take a stab that the back vents near the screen are intake, while the two fans at the bottom are exhaust.

I am currently using the Rain Design mStand ( http://a.co/aCG4fA1) but was thinking of getting this Twelve South stand instead ( http://a.co/5iG2PQA) since it's more open at the bottom for more ventilation.

Only worry is that I occasionally use the laptop stand without an external keyboard and my current stand would be much more durable and suitable for that.

 

On screens and synapse don't bother each other, and you definitely want synapse.

Intake is from the bottom and slightly through the keyboard, exhaust is out the vent under the display hinge. Make sure the bottom of the laptop can breathe

 

I was considering the pads from Amazon too. Petrov does it actually make the palmrest bearable

 

I keep reading about the palm rest being hot and mine has never gotten hot. Not before or after the ssd mod. Not sure if this is attributed to repasting and putting better thermal pads in place of the stock ones, or I just got lucky.

 

I can’t answer that, sorry, as mine never got unbearably hot in the first place - they got warm, but not terribly so (not like the strip above the keyboard, that can get very hot).

In any case, adding the thermal pads to the SSD is a no brainer in my opinion so if it helps the palmrest heat in your case it would be an added bonus.

 

These are my temps after liquid metal (with sponge borders for protecting the laptop). The GPU is with thermal grizzly kryonaut. I get better results with this as with lm... dunno why.

This is after a session playing PUBG

 

The battery in my 2014 Blade 14 finally bulged, but it was while it had been sitting dormant for months. I definitely ran that thing ragged for 3 years leading up to that though.

 

What were the temps on CPU with kryonaut? I'm confused when you say you had "better temps with this than with LM".

 

CPU = lm
GPU = kryo

I have better temps with this combo than with lm both

 

Ok, sorry was hard to figure out what you were trying to say with little data. What were temps in both situations? Trying to get a sense of the difference in the two.

 

GPU was 5c hotter in avg.
CPU nearly the Same as now

 

That's interesting, LM should transfer heat better in every circumstance. Must not have been making good contact. Probably die shape/contact profile is more amenable to TIM that can fill in the area better.

 

Hi chaps

I work from home these days and I wanted to have a setup where I can use a full widescreen monitor and a high end gaming box (eg 1080ti sli?) but also still have the option of using my RB too.

I can’t decide between getting a dedicated pc box or using the core v2 or core x. Can you use an sli setup in any of the core boxes and, even if I can, would the RB15 cpu be a bottleneck for a high end sli setup through a core?

I know this probably isn’t the perfect place for this question, but there’s only so many temperatures and firestrike scores we can compare..?

 

Hey all,

I have also been experimenting with repasting my blade with LM.

(not yet sure how to attach a image)
https://imgur.com/a/JkLtMHr

set fans at MAX via synapse
gaming mode via synapse

tested using msi kombuster for ~30 mins

I tried to undervolt the GPU but it seems that the MAXQ cards run below 800mv and MSI Afterburning cannot tune below that....

 

You can't do SLI with the Cores.

You lose graphics power so the Delta from the RB15 and everything except a1080TI doesn't seem worth it ATM.

Still, with 1180 just around the corner, waiting for that should be a good plan.

Anyway, I think the excellent 1070MQ in the RB15 is very good for now.

 

I agree, that Rain design one looks nice but waaaaay too few openings on the bottom.

 

Agree here, even 1080ti in a core isn't enough of a bump over 1070mq in the blade. Just get a good external monitor and wait for next gen. If it was a 1060 I might be inclined to suggest core. Don't get me wrong, 1070mq to 1080ti is still a decent bump if you are connecting the monitor straight to the core, just my opinion it isn't quite enough for the money unless you have a lot of expendable income.

Your only option would be to go desktop so you can get another slight bump from not using Thunderbolt to the core, there's a little bit of latency there. SLI isn't worth the headache either.

Of course these are just my opinion. If you chase every last frame and money is no object go for it.

 

As others said egpu doesn't support SLI but for cuda works it seems work. Other thing to note with egpu setting you'll get better system temperature especially CPU, I posted before my setting with 1080ti, both CPU and GPU sit on 70ish, compared to blade 15 CPU paired with its dgpu that for some games hitting over 90. On 1080ti egpu you'll get benefits on 4K or 1440p gaming compared to 1070 on blade, since egpu setting is lame on high fps 80~ish for its power. It depends also on games though, OW 1080p around 150~120fps, Far Cry 5 90FPS on Blade, 1080ti egpu setting OW 100~130, Far cry 5 80fps. But on 4K 1070 laggy vs smooth on far cry 5, OW not tested yet. Here's 3dmark benchmarks I did last week;
Blade 15 (200/600, undervolting -150mV)
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/15771231
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/27184677
Core V2 1080ti (125/600, undervolting -150mV)
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/27243975
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/3957515

 

Any luck for either of you regarding the 35W throttling? Razer isn't providing any updates, just "waiting to hear from the Dev team". I've only got a few days left on my return time window, and will be returning it if it isn't resolved by then...

 

It's funny with the two extra cores, your 6-core BGA CPU beats my 4-core LGA CPU in physics tests. Doing some checking in 3dmark results for this CPU, the extra two cores do wonders for physics scores in firestrike. Continuously this 6-core BGA CPU is smacking my 7700K down..

 

That is also one reason I wanted this CPU, high physical score, I think it beats also 7820HK on last gen high end gaming laptop. I needed it for better 4K gaming with egpu setting actually but, idk somehow graphics score is lame, even compared to my older 7700HQ CPU paired with same GPU. Maybe TB3 design on mobo in gaming laptop isn’t full maximized like on ultrabook. On 7500U ultrabook I got 22K, on 7700HQ 20K and on 8750H only around 19K. I hope it's only software issue though.

 

To not browse trough 120 pages of comments: Has anyone done a test with repaste, Hyperthreading dissabled and a GTX1070MQ(lowest power setting)?

 

Under that load, youre sitting at high 70s on the cpu with lm? dang, thats good.

 

I am done with thin and light, received a RB 2018 for a repaste from a friend, although a very nice job from Razer with the redesign, even after LM, hard to keep temps under control and Bios unlock helps nothing with power limits when the EC controls everything. For serious gaming, price to performance has become to ridiculous just to be cool chroma, thin and light, and overpriced. I will opt now for performance and value over, thin and light, RGB, thin bezels crap, overpriced, underforming marketing gimmicks. As a very expensive multimedia notebook that games well, alrighty....but all this generation of thin and light options offer no performance to value for gaming really....marketing should be multimedia Notebooks that can game for a big premium, over a marketing as gaming laptop...hot, loud and expensive, and likely to last only two years before a needed or wanted upgrade.

TO BE CLEAR: I don't crap on Razer per say but on Intel to release crippled 6 core 45W still on 14nm, just to stay on track of new chips every year, when many expected some power effiency by now with the 10nm process to handle this thin and light craze, as if an inch really matters, or that a pound extra can't be handled by gamers.....and that hot, loud, throttling and overpriced is preferable over the obvious and real needs of the gaming community.

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Agreed. All things being equal, of course I would want the thin and light laptop - but they are never equal. I have decided I am happy enough with my 7 lb well cooled AW over the clearly sexy but HOT and LOUD Blade. I am a 215 lb power lifter, the extra 2.5 pounds are manageable for me

 

I get what you're saying, but I think you should consider what these laptops are supposed to be doing.

They are not meant to provide the same performance as other gaming laptops, they're a compromise. For people who are regularly on the move but still want *some* gaming performance they have the option of getting a thin and light: a gaming ultrabook.
Marketing is where things get misleading as for the uninformed these laptops perform the same as their desktop equivalent.

Agreed on the intel part though. Get your **** together intel.

And to the guy above, no I'm sorry, as a lean 190 lbs lifter myself I would NOT walk around all day with a 7 lbs laptop. Could be done, obviously, but it would be a huge pain in the ass.

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There definitely won't be a solution in a few days... but Razer is aware of the power limit issue and it researching it for a proper fix.

 

Guys, any idea how to undervolt the GPU?

The 1070 Max Q is locked at 0.8v under load and that's as low as Afterburner will go.

I'd like to see how things go at 0.7, 0.75v.

 

You’re right about thermal, I’m a bit worried honestly about CPU hitting 90 on my games but damn it performs well, never had crashing, struggling etc, I just try not to look HWINFO too often . You’re also right that thin bezels, I think it invited BLB issue on this Blade, i prefer a bit thicker bezels but free of it honestly like my 2017 model, but again that 144Hz damn covered it. It’s also overpriced since with similar specs I can get Aero 15x or GS65 200/€400 cheaper, but again I’ve 5% store discount that translate €130 discount on my model
About performance I think now Razer on the right path with default OC software on Synapse 3 that bump performance and with manual OC per afterburner could reach or even surpass full default 1070 on Zephyrus...even some cores hitting 90ish but it doesn’t say throttle. 230 Watt AC Adapter i think play big role on that performance bump compared to Blade Pro 4K that contain only 250 Watt for a full 1080. Yes it’s big as hell I wish they bring something smaller like Blade 14 AC adapter for on go purposes.

 

My backpack is normally 20+ pounds with all my usual gear in it - the extra 2 is very manageable

Important to note I said backpack, not messenger bag - using both shoulders to carry the weight is very important and more ergonomic.

I agree though, marketing is directing engineering lately which is a recipe for disaster. They push engineering to go down a checklist of all the specs they want to brag about and engineering is backed into a corner. I think the REAL reality if you want a truly functional thin-and-light gaming machine is to make it a thin client connecting to a cloud-hosted gaming service like the one Nvidia built - that has its own compromises (requires external service and reliable internet) but should offer a much better overall experience I would think.

 

Ah yes if you have a backpack then 2/3 pounds won't make much of a difference, I see your point.

Agreed on the twisted marketing > engineering relationship atm, sadly when the consumers aren't educated enough to keep the brands accountable Marketing takes over. Let's just hope Intel finally gets their **** together with 10nm or AMD comes up big like they did in the desktop place, so we can finally see better thermal management. I feel like Nvidia is doing mostly fine, but further die shrinks will definitely be welcomed. 10nm CPU + 7nm GPU will be awesome.

 

Don’t put all blame on Intel. The OEM wants it. They work hard to make it as thin as possible (thinner the more can be saved on copper for cooling). And Intel has to follow up. You have to be two for a dance!! And the carrots is new purchase the year after.

 

Nvidia is doing fine, their chips are regularly well managed thermally. Going back to even Haswell the Intel chips have just always ran HOT in laptops

 

Hi,

I am thinking to give it a shot again, actually I have been thinking to get the 60hz model...does anyone have it? Maybe the screen has a better quality than the 144hz one?