Razer Blade 15.6" (GTX 1060/1070, 2018 edition) Owner's Lounge

Doubtful... the 144hz screen is already really good. I can’t see it being better if anything a little worse.

 

As you implied, they need to be in a mutual agreement (intel and the OEMs) so they can both benefit from the user (and don't over-complicate things, which could lead to higher production costs), especially with misleading marketing (more from the OEM's side, since intel doesn't advertise the all core boost anymore, just the base clocks that are guaranteed at the 45w TDP and the single core, so it doesn't put more pressure on the OEMs to properly design and tune the laptop to perform at a higher rated specification).

I agree with @Vistar Shook, that intel should have forced the OEMs to redesign the heatsinks around a higher TDP (at least 30% higher if not 50% to be in sync with the core increase), but while the user would benefit from that "free performance" with full TB clocks that are maintained, it would probably be bad for the business (it would probably be impossible to have those CPUs with a higher TDP on the ultra slim notebooks that are desired by so many).

They probably decided that it is best for both intel and the OEMs to maintain that 45w thermal design, so the OEMs can recycle the heatsinks, while further managing thermals with throttling mechanisms if they need to fit them in v slim laptops (it's more profitable to manage things with software, than to pay for more cooper and redesign the cooling solutions for a higher TDP).

 

I can manage my games run not over 85 celcius, and it’s games like AC Origins, Far Cry 5, PUBG etc that really stress the cpu. On the best your undervolting value (mine -130mV), not using gaming mode since basically it’s overclocking , and Fans manually at max. I’ll try seeing on gaming mode tomorrow since i like testing it on long gaming season.

I’m also curious about it, that’s only downside from mine, but I think it’s because that thin bezels, but only on dark scenes like loading screen, on gaming it’s not noticeable. Though I always want the perfect one

 

Guys for the cpu only type games cant u just turn off 2 cores just for them?

 

CPU only types games? Like what? If you don’t need dgpu 1060/1070, you can disable it through device manager. If you meant turn off 2 cores I don’t think it can, but you can reduce the performance by turning down percentage on processors state in power options. If you find that your games run too hot you can use balance mode and set fan manually to max, it hold the temperature max 85 on my most cpu demanding games AC Origins, Far Cry 5, and FFXV. I think Gaming mode will stress the Cpu since it’s principally overclocking GPU that translates to high cpu temperature. On Balance mode I don’t see huge performance drops on those games.

 

I just fired up my second RBP 15 and updated everything (Win & NVIDIA). First run in Firestrike and this beauty came up. Any ideas what’s wrong? Never saw an OSOD before..

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Did you undervolted it, maybe too low? Or try disconnecting anything that plugged if there’s any like HDD or rgb keyboard. I got BSOD when I undervolted it too low -160mV, it was fine on Firestrike but BSOD on gaming, unplugged all pheriperals made BSOD gone a while and I set undervolting value higher to -130mv, this time use xtu not Throttlestop, kind to complicated for me. OSOD seems gpu related issues from what I read online, or maybe did you set orange background instead blue windows?

 

Hi,

Thank you for your response. There is no undervolt (caused BSOD not OSOD on my 2017 RBP) at all, only the PSU plugged in and I did not change any color settings in windows. I literally unboxed the machine, updated windows (took forever), updated Razer Synapse and updated Geforce Drivers and Geforce Experience. After that I installed Steam for 3D Mark and HWINFO. And that's it. In my second run of Firestrike it just went into OSOD mode. Laptop was in Gaming mode and fans set to max.

 

is this because of the spring update ?. My m17xr4 was consistently doing this after the second to third reboot after installing the spring update, installing all other updates no worries, but install the 18xx update and all hell breaks lose. The only reason why I survived was I had a system backup and kept restoring it, but then gave up on the beta update and bypassed it for a year and simply install security and random updates on WinX


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"Isn't" or "is" because of the spring update? Did you manage to fix it? I am afraid I got a faulty device...

 

Sorry typing it on the move. I am afraid I wasn’t game to try the spring update so it’s on bypass


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Every machine has different cpu behavior as well the gpu, one can undervolting very low other can’t. I think it’s called silicon lottery. Yes I didn’t have BSOD too on Blade 2017 when I undervolting it too low only Program crash. But last week I experienced it when I was too low undervolting it. Like @paradigm said it could be windows (software) issue try different drivers or rolling back to 1709 if you could and see if it still exists. I’m also not on latest nvidia driver (198...), since it can’t run Assassin Creed Origins stable, but I’m on 1803.

 

My other Blade 15 runs fine with the latest Windows Updates as well(also 1070, 512), although I did not update to the latest Nvidia Drivers. Since there is no Undervolt at all at the moment and that a too low voltage caused Blue Screens of Death (BSOD) and not Orange Screens of Death (OSOD) on my Razer Blade Pro 2017, I do not think that this is the issue.

Do you guys think, this is a hardware related issue or do you think this is software related?

 

Did you saw this already?
https://windowsreport.com/orange-screen-of-death-pc-fix/

 

Thank you. Yes, I saw that, but none of the steps mentioned applies to my machine. Only the "remove overclocking" could apply for the Synapse Gaming Mode, which should work without any OSOD. As far as I understand the linked article correctly, this OSOD is a software related issue, correct?

KR

 

Yes on that article it’s software issue, only on Reddit, some users mentioned OSOD is GPU (Hardware) issue. Do you get this OSOD often? I think when you rise supports ticket they’ll advise firstly to resetting your Blade and see if it still exists, gaming mode only will bring cpu to 90ish on my Test, though in benchmarks it’s a decent score bump that reach full gtx1070 areas. It shouldn’t bring orange/blue screen of death.
LG

 

I only had it once yesterday evening. This morning, while getting ready to work I did another run, same settings, and nothing happened. Temps and results are ok, but not overwhelming. All on stock, no UV or other OC than Gaming mode. I had power related Throtteling on the CPU though.


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How come when I do the Firestrike test it only shows a percentage score i.e. 98% Pass rather than the 14353 it shows on yours?
Am I looking in the wrong place?

 

Yes that’s good result I think around 1K higher than competitors 1070 maxq like Aero 15x on notebookcheck review and you’ve good temperature considering not in undervolting.
Note gaming mode basically is overclocking the GPU 100 on core and 300 memory so it’ll stress the cpu more, I think you will get better temperature on balance mode.

 

True, but still, the gaming mode and even some more OC (I can run my other RB15 without problems on GPU +200, Memory +600) should not result in any OSOD.

I will reset the notebook tonight, do some more stress testing after I set it up (before and after updating all drivers/ windows).
Let's see!

 

Err maybe I was referring to your post.

set affinity turns CPU CORES OFF.
This is how to do it.
Start your game. Tab back into windows. Task Manger. DETAILS Tab. Find your game process. Right Click and select set affinity - This is where you can turn cpu's off.
You can do this via a batch file as well but I let people search for that or they can ask for help if required.

 

You have to chose "Benchmark" instead of "Stress Test".

 

Thanks for details! But isn’t turning off some core useless if we have extra cores for running games better? I had 4 cores cpu laptop before and 6 cores is really helpful rendering textures faster on my games. On 7700HQ I remember sometimes I saw poeple without face and hair like ghost on city scenes in AC Origins right after loading the game, now I didn’t see that yet.

 

Answer these if you have a moment, I'd like to know everyone's opinion on these matters.

(1) Which of these would you rather have in a portable gaming laptop and why?
A) 4 cores @ 4.0 GHz
B) 6 cores @ 3.0 GHz

(2) With modern day hardware, which is more of a concern to you?
A) Avoiding thermal throttling (max performance)
B)Running CPU as cool as possible (downclock)


(3) Does having an extended warranty affect your decisions in how you handle CPU temperatures? Briefly explain why.

(4) Is the use of liquid metal worth the risk in a notebook such as the Razer Blade?

 

1. B
2. A
3. If I have extended warranty I would push it as far as possible and try to cause a complete system failure just briefly before the warranty ends to get a replacement, possibly a new model. But it's not like razer have warranty that good.
4. Yes, I'm confident enough on my LM application(s)

 

Joikansai - I was just trying to help you with your temps on programs that abuse the CPU as they should be using the GPU.
I want 6 cores but not for non-gpu games.
I don't want 6 cores running 100% either.

Assault -
1) B 6 cores - Hypervisor
2) isn't it A & B - I want GPU to be used way more than CPU.
3) I wouldn't get extended warranty if I was going to experiment with pasting et
4) Use Thermal Grizzly kryonaut as it goes on like LM but without being an electric conductor (well I assume so).

 

So, I did some hardcore GPU Firestrikes and not a single OSOD. Let’s hope, this was a one time occurrence! I hopefully get some information from the log later.

Best result so far was with no UV, GPU +250/+750




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1. B
2. A
3. Yes, I like having the option for running it harder if I think it will make a meaningful difference in a game I like playing
4. No way, not for me in this ssituation

 

Thanks

 

I found some barrier foam for LM. Came with a hood at our shop, engine bay heat shielding foam. Takes no real pressure to squeeze and has one side sticky. I may cut it in half to keep it thin.

 

I decided to keep the Rain Design one. The rubber pads on the RB perfectly aligns with the rubber pads on the stand to give it more a few more millimeters elevation than with the Twelve South stand. The Twelve South stand's arms actually ends up covering most of the intake fans on the RB.

 

Hi, I had same issue like you when I got my blade. I can't remember which death I got at that time, may be orange or blue. Whatever, I got into this situation almost every single time while running 3dmark, I was even suspecting that my computer had hardware issue. After that, I swap the 256g ssd for a 960 evo 1TB, and fresh install of Windows. Updated everything to the latest version. I only download synapse from razer support. All other drivers were downloaded directly from hardware manufacturer. For example, 1070 driver from Nvidia, wireless card driver from Intel. The windows update handled most drivers by itself. After, I do not experience any more of BSOD or OSOD. My experience can be helpful to you. good luck

 

https://s.m.taobao.com/h5?q=Nvme usb&search=Submit&tab=all&sst=1&n=20&buying=buyitnow

A Taiwan chipset manufacturer released a controller for NVMe to USB 3.1, so you will see more USB enclosure with NVMe compatibility.
Look nicer than the one you posted.
As it is fairly new, it is quite expensive for the time being. I've test to put my 970pro into one, and the computer can read the ssd. You can give it a try.

 

Suggestions please, should I cut this foam in half removing the foil
And should I use electrical tape and foam or just foam layer? Conformal coating drying.

 

Cut it in half. I used electrical tape too.

 

So totally thought my blade fried. Laptop did not boot after the LM repaste. Power light would flash and it would shut off immediately, repeating that. After checking one thing after another and some help from @Mobius 1 , I noticed a tiny droplet of LM that strayed onto a ram stick. After getting that all cleaned off, shes up and running again! However I now see that the temps while gaming BARELY improved over Kryonaut. Running cooler by about 1-2c GPU and 3-5C CPU. I LM'd the CPU and used Kryo on the GPU. At the end of the day, the work is done and i will likely leave it as is, a gain is a gain.

 

That is exactly the reason, why I would never go for a LM repaste! I don't care, whether I have a few more degrees; as long as I do not have throttling, I am happy.

 

3-5c definitely isn't worth it unfortunately. The more I see results of LM on this laptop the less I think it's worth doing.

 

Correct. I would consider it if a LM repaste could bring the temps down by 20+ degrees to lower the noise and increase the lifespan.. but not like this!


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Welp, the LM did help me keep my machine quieter. I'm running 3.4 GHz at 4300 fan speed and stay well in the low/mid 80s, only spiking to a max recorded 88c now and then (loading screens etc).Fortnite saw a 4-6C improvement over kryo. Leads me to believe the vaper chamber doesn't have enough heat dissipation out the rear. It is decently quiet now though, I'll leave it in there for a while and maybe check on it in a month or 2, possibly just go back to kryo.

 

I think if might have something to do with the vapor chamber design of the heatsink.
Our Omen X also has a big vapour-chamber, when I repasted with liquid metal I also didn't see many gains from Kryonaut. About 5-8C.

In my old Alienware 17R4 the difference was much, much bigger.

How are you liking the blade 15? Thinking about getting one of those. The Omen X is geting heavy for everyday carry and I'm not gaming as much as I'd like.
I hear the keyboard is pretty bad, what do you think of it? Good for typing AND gaming?

 

Hey bud! The Razer is a fantastic laptop, easily my favorite thin-n-light gamer, and even a better laptop in general over the XPS 15. The touchpad is amazing, keyboard is better than most I've used this thin, and the screen is outstanding. I did not replace my omen X, still use them both. The give and take of the razer is that its much lighter and portable, as well as versatile, but the OMEN X still makes one of the best mobile-desktop experiences ever ever.

In about a year from now I may let the OMEN go and finally build a desktop, just because it stays home so often. But i love using it around the house still, the razer just goes with me everywhere now days. If I do go to visit family again or go somewhere I know I'll be gaming a lot, I still rather take the X because of the sheer comfort.

 

Cool, where did you get it from?
Can't find it anywhere in europe...

 

Razer directly, but check Amazon and microsoft

 

found that notebook.de already has them in stock!

 

I’m really liking mine. I love the look, the feel and the performance. It’s a pleasure to use it.

The screen is excellent, the touchpad I actually use without wincing. The performance is top notch (and I tweak for fun, not because I have to).

I’ve put off buying a thin and light gaming laptop for years - since my aorus x3 v1. And I’m glad I waited.

P.

 

Yeah it seems super nice. The footprint is ridiculous, so small, thin and unibody aluminium must be awesome for everyday use.

Now I just need to sell my Omen

 

This. To me it would be MONUMENTALLY worth it to get quieter fans without downclocking. I assume you are also combining this LM application with undervolting?

 

yup, around -150mv

 

Anyone else notice that if you wake up the laptop from sleep mode(pressing external keyboard or mouse) the screen will not come back on? Only way to get it on is to close the lid and put it back to sleep then open the actual lid.