Razer Blade 15.6" (GTX 1060/1070, 2018 edition) Owner's Lounge

Never ever lol causes too many problems

 

Which type of problems are you referring to?

I always had drivers and Geforce Experience installed without any issues ( that I've noticed)

 

I have had game crashes...loss of performance for no reason... inaccurate benchmarking etc. I've seen it enough to where I haven't used it in over 2 years.

 

Fair enough don't have the same experience though.

Anyway, at the end of the day we really just need the drivers.

 

Are you just using the standard 1070 drivers?

i.e. Choose Nvidia 10-series (Notebooks) and GTX 1070 from the dropdown.

Meaning, the max-Q version does not have special drivers?

 

Though NVIDIA's site has a bunch of drop down menus so you can select your OS, GPU etc., once you choose OS and 10 series notebook drivers, they're all the same download.

 

No special driver for max-q just standard 1070 driver.@mdmd13

 

Be careful, Synapse didn't play nice with the latest Nvidia drivers in my case (profiles were buggy and automatic switching between ac and battery wasn't working reliably). I'd suggest sticking to whatever driver Razer has on its website.

 

I always disable the overlays in Geforce Experience, if I had to guess that is the cause of a lot of instability. Pretty sure the game settings optimizations are just registry edits

 

Just remember you wont get the full performance of the GPU when you install it into an external enclosure and connect it via Thunderbolt 3, even if your Thunderbolt 3 port supports all 4 PCI-e lanes. You can expect about a ~20% performance loss on external displays and up to ~30% (worst case) on the internal screen.

 

If I'm playing at 1080p which I've been doing, i don't think any of that matters and at the end of the day I'm not benchmarking I'm playing my games. I could care less if i gain or lose 20-39 fps from 100 to 120 to 130. Those numbers don't mean anything to me, and to be quite frank if I did care severely about them I sure as hell wouldn't be using a laptop to achieve those numbers.I would revert back to my desktop.

 

Soon as the Razer Core is able to achieve full performance/no loss I am buying into it. I know we need more bandwidth to make that happen, and we aren't quite there yet. It's really about TB3 and also whether the motherboard has a dedicated lane to handle what it needs. That's why alienware amplifier see's no loss... proprietary connection.

 

THIS

I had the Core V2 when it was new and compared against my AGA and there was a measurable and consistent performance drop with the Core over TB3. And my laptop has the TB3 controller directly off the CPU, not on the PCH over DMI like most implementations which is even worse. The TB3 overhead is real!

 

Fair enough. I want as many frames as I can get at all times! It makes a big difference to me depending on the application. Ideally I want as close to 144 fps as possible on my 144hz screen. My eyes demand it.

 

I'm thinking a TB4 Core V3 will be our saving grace?

 

I've noticed that when I connect my RB15 to my Ultrawide monitor, it always uses the 1070, never the integrated graphics, even when just sitting doing (nearly) nothing in windows. Is this expected or is there some way around this? I only ask because the idling temp is higher and the fan kicks in when the nvidia gpu is used (even if I'm doing nothing in windows).

 

Ideally, future iterations of Thunderbolt have some mechanism to offload or fastpath PCIe connections to reduce the overhead hit.

What is really needed for laptops is a standard for external PCIe that is NOT thunderbolt (think AGA but standardized). That would be ideal to me - if possible work out hot-plugging as well since that is NOT part of the PCIe standard today. Or just open up Thunderbolt to go wider than x4, an x8 TB connection would be awesome. Having all x16 for internal GPU is a waste really, x8 is more than sufficient - for example, the entire Aliewnare laptop lineup right now is all x8 and does just fine.

 

Yes, for most laptops the dGPU is the only GPU that drives external monitors.

Some laptops do reserve an external port to run iGPU, but IDK about the RB15 specifically. You could try another output port, test them all, to see if any support external iGPU.

 

And that's why I'd rather get a Razer Core if I'm going to go down the route of parting out the system for an external monitor and keyboard route.

 

Guys,

do you think this might cause permanent problems for my ssd and data stored on it?

Hot hot does your SSD get in a stress test?

KR




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I havent updated nvidia drivers and still my Synapse is not switching between ac and battery profiles.
Anyone else has this issue?

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Everyone gets these temps out of the box, the fix is simple: open the laptop and add one 1.5mm thick thermal pad covering the entire length of the ssd and a second one also 1.5mm thick only covering the controller of the ssd ( just google it if you don't know which part that is).

Temps will go down to 40C.

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That is such BS, so you're telling me that your eyes can tell the difference between 120 FPS and 140+ FPS?

 

I wouldn't be opposed to this but I just don't see them developing another port for egpu's. Unless they get popular enough. I personally like how small tb3 cables are...so I hope TB4 shows promise.

 

I just checked the Razer store this morning and the power supplies are available for sale now. I just got a second 230W one for travel (the other one is strapped underneath my desk).

There was a one-time voucher code for $50 off that popped up in my cart for some unknown reason, so I got it for $89.99 (US). Cheers.

 

how did you get that voucher for $50 off can you share with me the code?

 

I sincerely have no idea. I put the power supply in my cart and went to checkout, and then under vouchers it had a one time code for me to use - perhaps it was a voucher from my earlier return and exchange of the RB15 they gave me that they never told me about (I don't recall if I was logged in to the website at the time).

 

damn okay thanks

 

For those considering the Core X, a vaguely interesting review just in: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/razer-core-x-egpu,5525.html

For RB15 owners, I would have much rather seen it paired with an RB15 and a 1080Ti, of course. But we're not really the target market for the Core X anyway.

 

Hello Everyone! I just Purchased the new Razer blade 15 with GTX 1070 Max-Q so far im loving this machine way better than any other Razer ive owned so far ( and ive had quite a few)

Of all the blades ive ever had this one is the only one that I dont feel like I can cook my meals on while im gaming

So far ive upgraded the Ram to 32gb 3000mhz Corsair vengeance ram and upped the SSD to a 1tb Samsung 970 evo PCIE and repasted with icdiamond 7 To be as cook as possible because I find under volting redundant.

My question for you all here is how is your battery life? ive made a few tweaks to background apps but the best ive been able to get is 2.5 - 3 hours on batter with the system set to 70% brightness I set the battery Slider to "better Battery" and im only doing some basic browsing 1 or 2 tabs. Doesnt matter if I use chrome or Edge. Curious what other users are getting???

 

First off, make sure you aren't testing the battery after waking from Sleep mode - or if you are, reboot. There is currently a bug with these laptops which make them draw 12W at idle when waking from sleep (but not hibermate).

I'd also recommend reducing max multipliers in throttlestop for battery mode, to something like 32x. I'm not sure why you find undervolting "redundant" - it cools this CPU massively (and a lot more than any repaste does) which means less fan usage and more battery uptime (if you're worried about battery usage). It's also very easy and super duper low risk.

Have you tuned off chroma lighting, or at least reduced its brightness when on battery (as well as turning off the Razer logo on the lid)?

 

Finally power bricks for sale! In for two at 89.99 each. Razer has been nice enough to give me two 50 dollar vouchers for having to RMA both my laptop and then my power brick itself. Soon I will have 4 total power bricks and 2 1070 rb15s.

 

Fyi you will only see 2667 from your memory. Not sure if you were aware of the motherboard limitations.

 

That must have been why I got a $50 voucher too, because I returned my first RB15, was wondering about that!

 

Just wondering if anyone has connected their RB15 to an external monitor and managed to still use integrated gfx when in windows? Mine autoswitches to dedicated gpu with external monitor - not the end of the world but a bit odd and makes the fan come on more than it would otherwise (as system runs about 5C warmer with dedicated gpu on, even at idle)?

 

I think you're missing the point, the extra FPS are needed when things get a little bit more complex, what you're trying to avoid is the dips down to levels where your eyes CAN notice...

 

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If anyone has any questions I'd be happy to answer. Have finished messing around with the 15 Blade 4k for a few days. Here is a screencap of the Blade 4k vs Aero 4k. Colors definitely are more accurate on the Aero but the matte screen just doesn't look as nice as the glossy Razer. Personal preference. The 4k version of the blade seems like it's actually the same size as the Aero. Here is higher res photo of the side by side. The power brick on the blade has some pretty bad coil whine too. Ok here are my notes. The Blade 4K is a bit heavier and possibly thicker than the Aero 15x4K. The fan noise is much more pleasant on the Aero vs the annoying pitch on the blade. The idle temps are around 32c for the Aero on all cores vs 40c on the Blade. I’m running a -140 undervolt with turbo limited at 3.4ghz on all cores for both. When playing dark souls 3 the blade reaches around 91 on three cores and averages around 87c vs the aero maxing out at 88c and averaging 81c. SSD temps max out around 50c on both. The Blade fans ramp up and down when doing everyday work/ watching videos which becomes a real nuisance...like really really annoy you after a while. If anyone has any tips on this let me know. Battery life is almost always 2:30-3:00 hours more on the Aero. I average around 6:30-7:00 hours on the Aero without trying vs 3:30-4:30 on the Blade. The blade has a much better feel all around of course. The Aero keys have better key travel, but certain keys don’t work unless pushed extra hard and sometimes don’t register unless you really Focus on a key. Having the Blade screen in front of me right now at 5:00am, sunrise on set..I’m missing the matte screen on my Aero. The biggest point I should make is the software. The Aero is absolute garbage in this department. Even with a fresh install I’ve gotten multiple BSOD’S and the system performance is just overall sluggish compared with the blade. I can’t even count the amount of error messages and random problems I’ve had with the Aero. I would never recommend this laptop to someone that wasn’t at least a smidge tech savvy. I actually may like the Aero screen more because it’s not over saturated. I still haven’t decided on which laptop I’m keeping. I want the Blade because of the build quality, but the Aero is lighter and has a better battery life/quieter fans. The only problem is the ****TY SOFTWARE. They are so far behind on drivers in their smart manager and so many issues/ BSOD’S occur. I recommend getting the Intel drivers and Nvidia drivers from the site vs smart manager. Someone on Notebook review helped me with that. I was also hoping the temps would be better on this heftier Blade. Seems like outside the SSD they are the same as the 144hz launch model I had. Sorry if I messed up somewhere. It’s 5:00am and I’ve got thirty minutes before another 16hour day

 

Synapse needs fixing, right?

 

I’m getting around 84c on gpu and low 90’s on cpu playing dark souls 3 on the blade for a couple hours. Anyone know if it’s a bad paste job. My 144hz launch blade 15 didn’t go past 76c on gpu and stayed in the high 80’s on cpu. Running a -140mv undervolt and turbo limited at 3.4ghz on all cores. It’s weird because this 4K Blade seems thicker.

 

That’s normal temperature, according Razer Support Far Cry 5 cpu temperature that hits 95 is normal, I think I also saw 80ish on gpu when played it over 2 hours. So I’ll enjoy the game and see if it doesn’t melt within my 2 years guarantee Btw ambient temperature also brings some effects, that’s why I noticed recently my SSD hitting red alert 75 in HWinfo, it’s now 37 outside here on afternoon, inside the room maybe high 20ish.

Yes a lot, especially for anyone who likes saving the profiles. I don’t do too much costumization only changing default lightning effects, performance and fans profile.

 

That is so hot, I personally would not feel comfortable at those temperatures yikes...

 

Just as a reference, with liquid metal I'm getting around 85 on the CPU at full clock speeds. I like to limit the clocks to 3.6ghz and sit at about 82 CPU. I don't really recommend LM on the blade, just drop the clocks and accept the 6 cores capability in this chassis.

 

Ok! Glad it’s under normal operating temperatures. I feel like I remember seeing a few users on here with lower temps. Outside temps where I’m living are about 75F not hot at all.

 

Do you think it’s a bad paste job and I should return it for another blade?

 

I'm on the opposing end... If I have to fry an egg on the chassis I will...but it better hold full clock speed!

 

Hey Assualt! I don’t think I’ll go the liquid metal route. Thanks for the frame of reference. Those are some great temps. Any idea on a fix for the fans ramping up and down doing everyday tasks? I tried putting all the replies together and it did them individually. My bad

 

Hmm odd issue. It'll just ramp up high on you? My fans have always been nearly inaudible under regular use. Have you been monitoring your temperatures? Something using too much CPU perhaps?

 

It is strange. Had the same problem on my first blade 15. Yes it just randomly ramps up out of nowhere. Very strange. I’m around low 40’s in general use. Nothing is being used in task manager. Super strange

 

btw i repasted my balde 15 with some "old" and i mean old noctua paste i had laying around .. i opened it to look at the paste job and basically saw something that i thought was a thermal pad .. legit 2mm thick thermalpaste pad, that wa only flatened out at the spot where the dies are ... i was shocked .. i removed that rubbish and put the old paste on i had .. i have to test the temps on darksouls3 but i think i will switch to some cryonaut anyways soon , when i buy the stuff ti lm my main pc cpu and delid, cause that one is also using that old noctua i had laying around for the connection between spreader and waterblock LOL

 

So what are you saying?
There was a thermal pad in it originally or a thermalpaste pad?? Or thermal paste???