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    Razer Blade 15.6" (GTX 1060/1070, 2018 edition) Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Razer' started by X33nbat, May 20, 2018.

  1. Petrov

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    If you launch synapse, then in the third row down (in the row marked "online services" there is a pane labelled "Register Your Razer Product Warranty" - try that.

    Also, might want to read this thread and decide if you want to download Throttlestop and undervolt your CPU, to keep temps down a little without any performance sacrifice (in fact, the opposite is true). Happy to give more guidance on this if you need it.
     
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    I had 3 total. Only this latest one was bad the other 2 were fine. I wish i could keep the one I'm getting replaced but I really don't want to rely on the loctite to hold in 3 screws seeing as I have those 3 stripped threads. Especially because they are all on the same side.
     
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    Regarding buzzing power bricks. I have one that I still have to send in for RMA and it's one that you have to be within about 2 inches to hear. That said if the brick is touching an audio cable the buzzing sound is actually picked up by the speakers or headphones attached to the audio cable. Additionally the bottom (sticker side) of the power brick isn't quite flat. Wiggles when places on that side.
     
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    Yah that would be most excellent!
     
  5. Firebat246

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    That sounds like a reasonable enough reason to RMA. Otherwise if you are more than a few inches away and can't hear it... consider it fine.
     
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    Yeah I've been traveling for work and haven't been able to part with the brick since they still aren't for sale. I may just pick up a second Blade for the time being.
     
  7. Firebat246

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    So I tried using TS to undervolt.. just to see if I could get better results with temps/power limit throttling. I did not mess with any settings other than trying to set core and cache separate. I kept cache where it was at on XTU at -0.135 and tried core at -0.160,-0.155,-0.150,-0.145. All crashed within 10 mins in WoW (just the game I used which is more sensitive to undervolting.) So I will just stick to using XTU.. since no real improvement was possible. Messing with all other setting on TS doesn't help throttling in any way which is why I didn't bother with BD PROCHOT/Speedshift etc.
     
  8. Vistar Shook

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    One useful aspect of TS are the profiles, such as automatic battery profile. Also alert profile, where if the CPU or GPU reaches a user determined temp, it can switch to another chosen profile to cool a down a bit, before reverting back to the orginally chosen profile.
     
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    Another thing.. XTU shows thermal throttling in the 70s where HWinfo64 shows no thermal throttling. I am inclined to believe HWinfo64? Why the discrepancy between the two??
     
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    I would trust HWinfo over XTU for thermal throttling triggers, but you can confirm by observing the cpu clocks behavior.
     
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  11. Papusan

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    On top... Depends on the polling time period. Hwinfo64 with default settings use 2000ms. Not sure what XTU use.
     
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    Well my point is it makes no sense to thermal throttle in the 70s. It doesn't look like there's much change in clock speeds half the time it says it's thermal throttling...only when it power limit throttles. So I'd be inclined to agree about Hwinfo64 being accurate. Although I love XTU for undervolting... It can be wacky with other things.
     
  13. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    You could check if BD PROCHOT shoot up in TS. Could be from other sensors on the MB. You could also lower the Polling Period in Hwinfo64. Put it as low as possible in settings. Not that I say the results you saw is wrong.
     
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    Can you upload a video or explain in better details?

    What do the clocks and TDP start off as and the temperature when running Prime95? Does it start off at 3.9GHz and clock down to something different? What is it after it "thermal throttles"?

    Kind of sounds like TDP limit, can't tell without more information.

    On side note, I can manage -200mV with the following clock ratio limits.

    1/2 Cores - 4.0GHz
    3/4 Cores - 3.6GHz
    5/6 Cores - 3.2GHz
     
  15. Firebat246

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    I can check that out...but I have only read that running TS and XTU together is nothing but issues. Unless you mean omit XTU and use TS soley. Monitoring with CPUID and HWinfo. I tried using TS to undervolt the core greater than the cache but I just kept getting crashes.
     
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    If you still can confirm (see it) XTU throw out the throttling messages, disable XTU with Autoruns.exe or in services and test out with TS.
     
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    It definitely throttles down to about 3.1ghz in prime 95. What I'm talking about is in games where it's sitting in the 70s it will trigger thermal throttle spikes everywhere in XTU even though there are no actual spikes in clock speed. I'll try to capture some pics when I get a couple hours of free time today.
     
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    That's a nice undervolt mate - have you stress tested those levels (if so, how did you stress test)?
     
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    I refuse to limite ratios under any circumstance.... unless it makes me via throttling lmao
     
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    I usually run Prime95 and Unigine Valley for 30 minutes each and a couple runs of 3DMark Firestrike.

    If it's all good, I'll consider it stable enough. If I randomly get a blue screen later then I'll re-adjust.

    I don't like to spend days doing stabilty testing and this method is what I've been doing for years now.

    So far, I haven't had a single blue screen. Just keep in mind that the success of my undervolt is also likely due to me limiting the ratios from 41/40/39 to 40/36/32.
     
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  21. heraldo_jones

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    Hey fam, lately was interested in this laptop as it has a good performance (as I need) and a great form factor and design. Although I want a powerful laptop I also want it to be as quiet as possible when doing light tasks (web browsing, basic code programming, you know), things I haven't found in my recently returned HP Omen 15-dc (a f*cking plane). Checking the manual there is seems to have a manually thing to control the fans but sadly after contacting Razer's chat support the told me the next:

    "Note when using Manual:
    The speed you select will be constantly maintained and no longer be adjusted by the system.
    You can only select between 4000-5000 RPMs. (Gaming mode will only allow selecting 4500-5000 RPMS)
    Selecting a constant fan speed may result in increased fan noise from your system.
    Selecting 5000 RPM will help keep your Blade cooler during intense gaming or other activities requiring increased GPU or CPU usage.
    These setting will be stored and saved as long as Synapse 3 is running"

    Crazy being 4k the lowest setting. Anyone of you have tested the laptop with SpeedFan or Notebook Fan Control to check if them allow to select a lower value? I prefer to have the laptop a little bit on the 70-75cs and be as silent as possible to have it cold with noisy fans as I need to use it in a silent zone mainly. Also anyone knows if this method of the video below works in the 2018 model?:

     
  22. darkloki

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    I have a 1060 model and I undervolted mine and I'm able to currently run at 60 with it being pretty quiet. I'm pretty happy with the system so far but I'm also only 10 days in but I'm probably going to sell my Macbook at the end of the month as I have not been using it all that much as of late.
     
  23. heraldo_jones

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    Good to hear that, have you tried any of the apps I mentioned? I know there are lot of people suffering from noisy Razer laptops, so as I need to import the laptop I don't want to see me in the situation of not being comfortable with it and see me in a hard process of returning it.
     
  24. darkloki

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    I'll try the apps out I don't game that much as I do alot of database work and sometimes play an RTS game or Hearthstone so I don't really work the system all that hard.
     
  25. heraldo_jones

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    Thanks! Is just to know if they work with the Blade 15, I also don't play, just music engineering and code programming at low level.
     
  26. Joikansai

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    I think Fan controll won’t work with current Blade same as previous 2 gen Blade, it was working on old model like 2016 v1 and 2014 when I’m not wrong.
    If you don’t do anything cpu or gpu intensive apps, using balanced (default, with tdp 35 Watt) for like browsing, paperwork or other light tasks my 1070 is silent and never go above 60ish celcius, but for gaming, I want max performance on gaming mode which made me have to set the Fans profile to 5000rpm to keep it not overheating since my games are quite demanding (AC Origins, Far Cry 5, FFXV, PUBG, avarage is 80ish, but cores could hit high 90ish sometimes) and I want highest performance. It’s loud around max 55dB but my gaming volume is 20dB more, so I’m good with that, for PUBG that needs sound details I’m using headset. If you want silent gaming you can disable or limiting turbo boost through throttlestop etc with lower gaming performance as trade off but you will also have lower temperature.
     
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  27. heraldo_jones

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    Bad news then, sorry but due to lately experince I'm so much skeptical of the "auto-fan control" of windows laptops hahaha
     
  28. childprotectorofthenight

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    "I got my 4k today (switching over from a MacBook Pro “15)

    This is really for CAD and graphics so I needed the 4k.

    I upgraded the ram to 32gb and SSD to a Samsung 970 Pro 2tb.

    I freaked out at first because after installing windows the bottom 1cm of the screen didn’t show. Turns out it was a driver issue.

    Screen is great, PSU doesn’t make noise, and keyboard is great.

    They also added a thermal pad to the SSD which I know was a mod people were doing themselves.

    Only issue I had was one of the brass inserts the goes into plastic for a screw on the bottom plate was broken free from the plastic. I used a some super glue so I guess we’ll see what happens." From Reddit. It looks like Razer has added Thermal pads too!
     
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    Hey, one quick question, can i apply an Kingston A1000 B+M Key SSD in the Blade?
    becwuse the blade has only M Key SSD?

    Gesendet von meinem Mi MIX 2S mit Tapatalk
     
  30. nanias

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    where did you get you machine from?

    Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk
     
  31. childprotectorofthenight

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    This was taken off Reddit. I imagine from Razer or Amazon seeing as they're the only ones with stock.
     
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    I'm new here. I received my Blade 15 yesterday, ordered from the Microsoft store and manufactured in July 2018. (1070 model, 144Hz 1080p display, 512gb ssd)

    The charger had significant coil whine, I have already contacted Razer support and they are sending a new one.

    There is definitely backlight bleed with the base of the screen as well. It is not something that really bothers me but when I compare it to my MBP it becomes even more obvious.

    I have not done any benchmarking yet but that's on the horizen and I will likely be following the guides here for undervolting with TS pending how my tests run.

    Thanks everyone here for this resource.
     
  33. heraldo_jones

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    Follow this video for the undervolting, really cool guy ;)

     
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    Alright so I have until the end of this week to decide if I want to keep my Razer Blade or process the return. I got a pretty good deal on my current razer blade at $2000 USD just under for teh 144 hertz version. If I were to return it i think the 1070 would easily cost me an additional $600. My thoughts are that I should keep my current system and poket the saved money and if I feel the need for an increased GPU to just go the eGPU route which is about $600 anyways.

    I'm pretty happy and satisfied with the system so far but just wanted to throw it out there to see if anyone sees anything foul in my logic. I don't really play too many games just Hearthstone and older RTS titles, that the 1060 can handle easily. If there is a AAA title or FPS that i want to play in the future I don't mind forking out cash to pick up an eGPU down the road especially if it helps my system run cooler.
     
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    Definitely pocket it! If you're running everything fine right now I wouldn't stress about it :) like you said eGPU is always an option
     
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    Sounds like a good strategy to me!

    Any investment in eGPU dock and GPU itself will easily be applicable beyond the life of your current laptop
     
  37. Petrov

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    I got my RB15 hooked up to my new Alienware 34" 120hz Ultrawide at 3440x1440. It is brilliant, only played Path of Exile so far, but no issues there! I'll post pics later or tomorrow.

    I have one question though: How do I set my RB/external monitor so that:
    1. The external monitor is the main display; and
    2. If I open a game and play fullscreen it displays on the monitor, not on the RB15; and
    3. Have GSync enabled on the main display

    If I connect the monitor to the mini-DP and hit Fn-F4 on the RB15, it allows me to either 1) use only the RB15 display, 2) use only the monitor display, 3) duplicate or 4) extend. If I choose either 2, 3 or 4 and go into NVidia settings to set up multiple displays, it only shows the external Alienware and no reference to the RB15.

    Basically, I want to game on the monitor while showing my desktop/chrome on the RB15...is this possible?
     
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  38. Petrov

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    Here is my RB15 together with my new Alienware 34" 1440p Ultrawide (120hz) and the new desk (Artifox Desk 02). Pardon the stool, I am looking for a cool chair...

    https://imgur.com/a/ZXdrjCW
     
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    It all looks Lovely - pretty as a picture, but I'd turn around the desk, sit next to the railing - probably nice and cool - and not have that monitor in the "topple into the stairwell" adjacent position.

    Gravity loves to pull things to the lowest level, and monitors are one of it's favorite toys.

    I usually have the monitor fairly close against a wall, so it can't fall off the desk - at least from that direction. I've even strapped monitors into the wall for earthquake proofing before to prevent them from toppling.

    Yipe, just looking at it I can see the monitor dangling over the railing briefly by the laptop video cable, and then both disappear from view. :D
     
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    UW is great I got the acer curved one about 2.5 years ago.
    I went to have a look at the windows settings for display and noticed mine was running at 59hz. Update somewhere must have changed it. Put it back to 100hz so thanks for Q. That explains some strange things I have been seeing.

    As to your monitor question I thought you set up so alien is monitor 1 and rb is monitor 2. I don't have the RB yet waiting for stock. I have an Alienware 15 inch laptop I could try it on if you don't get an answer.
     
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    I think t use g sync you have to use only Alienware monitor. I don’t have g sync monitor but on my 4K monitor some monitor options (forgot which one) won’t allow me setting multiple display.
     
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    So I purchased a second 1070 model from the Microsoft store (07/18 China build) and received it yesterday. I also have one from near launch. I'm not sure if I won the silicon lottery on the second one, but the thermals are seemingly improved. Idle temperatures around 40c with a 125 undervolt (haven't pushed further yet) and only maxing at 86 core temperature with full turbo in Firestrike loops. It seems to be eliminating heat and stabilizing in temperatures a lot quicker. Additionally the power brick is 100% silent. The fans are also a better resonance, but that could just be a unit to unit kind of thing. I haven't popped it open, but I will have to swap out the hard drive. I'm curious to see if they have actually installed thermal pads on the SSD at this point. I've seen some users suggest they have on reddit.
     
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    If the newer run units are across the board better on thermals and noise I may be tempted to revisit this laptop :) (don't tell my wife!)
     
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    I saw 4K Blade 15 user mentioned this on Razer forum, he upgraded SSD and RAM so he should notice that.
     
  45. Petrov

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    Yup, I think you're right. Thanks anyway!
     
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    Wow finally after multiple blue screens and weird quirks, got the samsung 860 1tb installed. Samsung migration software wtf.... :rolleyes:
     
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    Fresh install ftw no issues lmao
     
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    Do you guys update to the latest NVidia GeForce drivers, or just stick with the Razer released ones?

    Normally, of course, I would use latest drivers from NVidia, but given the finnickiness of the RB15, I haven't actually updated the shipping drivers yet...
     
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    Always straight from Nvidia for drivers.
     
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    Thanks FB - do you also install GeForce Experience, or just drivers?
     
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