Razer Blade 15.6" (GTX 1060/1070, 2018 edition) Owner's Lounge

There’s no way going to 1050ti for gaming if you’ve already 1060, it’s down grade, and from 1070 prespective it’s a lot. Changing refresh rate on external monitor is depending on your external monitor, now my ips LG 4K can’t do 1440p 75Hz unlike my previous Samsung 4K monitor.

Unlighted function key is one issue after upgrading from Blade 2015 which has that. But fortunately i can remember that by color costumization. In fact personally after looking again other keyboard with second key backlight I prefer without, it’s more simple and has character imo. Yes I’m agree with 1070 inside it, I can say on mine even full 1070, since no maxq laptops can beat the graphics power on Blade 15, and I’m quite reaching 1070 FPS on my gaming profile without thermal throttle.

 

yeaaaaa that is true I hate optimus as well so I do the majority of my gaming on a Gsync monitor. All laptops should be like the zephyrus M which allows you to choose full graphics or optimus mode.....

 

If it had only been about the multimedia keys that could have been a solution, but as a programmer or someone who frequently use the alt characters for other reasons, its not a solution that works. One solution could of course have been if Razer had just done as everyone else...

 

Yeah i remeber digital, but 'll go one up,. you remeber the panasonic monochrome.... wasn't Digital changed to COMPAQ??

 

The BIOS link is up...

 

If I remember correctly, Compaq bought Digital (DEC) and was then bought up by HP. And yes, I am that old

(Don't recall that Digital ever made laptops but could be wrong, their main business was mainframe computers)

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someone good at bios modding ? the blade bios has the menu overclokcing for voltages etc but that has no entry under setup, there is just advanced, chipset, etc but it is missing overcklocking to make it user accesible.. is someone here able to add that string ? to unlock that feature ? ( the modding like on the last blade does not work )

 

A simple Google Image show the following: I think they are digital although they could have used someone else to make it. I recall Toshbia being very big at the time which is nutty to think they're like extinct now. They were that big when I was growing up.

 

Ah, brings back memories (of laptops of that age that is, didn't remember Digital making them). I guess it had proper backlighting for the keyboard also. Guess it's time to focus on more present tech here now though

 

You could see why I really wanted one as a kid probably one of my brighter moments that i was able to make that happen and then some... Getting back on topic I have updated my Razer blade Bios to 1.05 the install had me holding my breath because during the install it disables your keyboard and mouse and then installs.

Windows then Restarts and you get the nice blue screen of a restart and then... Nothing... lights are on system is on but it never fully restarts... Held my breath forced the restart manually, saw the Razer logo pop up like 2-3 times (2-3 quick restarts on it's own) and then PHEW... Windows showed up again. Did a proper restart to go check the bios version and sure enough it's 1.05

So I figured I'm covered on warranty so I'll give it a try and see what happens.

 

Bios updates always get my underwear In a pinch.

 

It reminds me of my thinkpad from ibm which looks very similar. I took it apart and OMG the thermal paste was still liquid form and wet and it was from 1996 the laptop. I was amazed it didn’t dry up

 

Have been messing with core clock curves in afterburner and have improved benchmark scores in firestrike without outputting too much heat. Does anyone have any other curves they could share?

 

That's a really good graphics score, it's just your physics score which has stopped you topping 15k - probably just power limit throttling.

 

Great temperature for that score, is it balanced mode or gaming? If gaming, what is your core clock setting?
I did that month a go, but default gaming with manual fan curve is best on my setting since I prefer max performance, though on Firestrike my temperature reach mid 80ish.

If there’s some way to increase it I’m on all ears

 

I always get a better physics score than that... I will try that exact same curve and see what results I get.

 

Anyone have an issue with a gap between each side of their chassis? Very hard to notice unless you look from the bottom on an angle.

 

Greetings everyone. I've been working on Project Razer 15 (2018) for a few weeks now with some extensive testing and thought I'd share. The system is fully modded, heat sink balanced, LM'ed, Padded, tuned etc... my usual...

18,034 Graphics + 17018 Physics ... pretty beastly for a 1070MQ and 8750H ...



I'll be moving onto some other systems, but for those who are on the fence of getting the new Razer 15, with some proper treatment you can get this thing to run fairly well. It's a well rounded system and should be on your short list, only if you plan to LM it.

It's nice to see some familiar 'faces' in here... hope all is well guys...

Ciao

 

Damn great score, you separated Blade 15 from maxq laptops. I knew that I’ve still room on thermal so I believe it could see go above. Can you upload the link please, I want to see your memory clock, or maybe you can tell me your software tweaks like adjusting curves or maybe flashing the bios to unlock tdp etc. I’m also not saying you’re laying but I can also do this

No offense

 

Fantastic result, great to see! Why do you emphasize the LM - conventional wisdom seemed to be that it had a marginal impact on temps only in the RB15's case - it sounds like your results differ?

Also, would you mind sharing what throttlestop/fan/afterburner etc settings you uses?

 

Haha it's all good and thanks. Back in the day, I would say "Go search and look it up! "

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/16197475

3DMark's site is so annoying with all the eGPU scores all mingled into the mix.

It's funny how some of those eGPU's score with the 1080ti are getting smashed by 1070MQ's and how regular 1070's are getting tickled by MQ's ...

Edit: Wait ... just realized that was you that had the 1080ti lol ... that doesn't belong in the 1070MQ category. I wish 3DMark would categorize the submissions better, because it's impractical to have eGPU scores mixed in with the real scores of the respected chip set... I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels that way ...

 

I emphasize LM because that's what I'm known for with my work. I call it the Liquid magic treatment. On thinner chassis's like this it's tricky, but it's possible as demonstrated, which is why I emphasize the use of LM. I've tested extensively for several weeks on this system... regular paste doesn't cut it so that's why I've concluded for my own sake and within my own opinion, if someone is going to buy this for gaming / long duration tasks that tax the cpu/gpu, LM or don't bother. That's my opinion from my research and testing. I've also linked the url above.

 

Did you galvanize the vapor chamber with nickel? Or did you just slap the gallium compound right on the copper bottom of the chamber?

 

True there’s also other 1070 laptops scores mixed. I’m too lazy searching one by one to see it’s maxq or no. Gaming laptops eGPU graphics score isn’t as good as ultrabook, maybe due dGPU idk. Like this 1080ti score, not only in Razer but also other gaming laptops can’t beat ultrabook. Though it’s hidden by big difference from physical performance.
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/26320000
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/27972555
The other weird (good for me ) thing Razer Systems hide second gpu on details and show only dGPU on title, so it messed all charts.
So btw you OC it too right? 3Dmark Core clock show that your core frequency +165 than mine which is also think quite inaccurate since I’m already OC it+210. I saw other user can do +240, is yours more than that?

 

the one i remember is the first one, because it distinctively had a trackball. The Toshiba... i will need to have a look, its likely at my uncle's place.

 

Yea their organization is crazy and confusing. I just did an advanced search and just looked for Razer scores as that's what I was interested in, therefore, within the Razer 15 (2018) I think my score is the highest for now, but we'll see...it's all up to the silicon lottery as well so someone may have gotten lucky and if so kudos to them! As for how 3DMark reports and display stuff, it's all messed up and inaccurate lol. I can't get past 210 without it giving a fit..sucks.. just an unlucky chip, but the weird thing is, it's not always about the highest you can set it, rather it's about finding the balance. I've seen lower OC'ed chips run better than really high ones ... That's what makes this unique in that every chip and system is different, so there's no definite answer. It's all in the tuning and one has to have the patients and understanding of how all the moving parts work to achieve the best that silicon will allow.

 

Yes I think so, never saw score that high. I’m not familiar with LM, prefer software tweaks. How can you get so stable physical score btw, is it also from LM, I think Razer lock tdp to 45 that avoiding physical score to reach 17k.

 

How is people’s razer blade cpu temp and boost clock when they disable their hyper-threading in bios?

Sorry I don’t have the product because I’m waiting for the microsoft store to re-stock.

 

I got a lower score when I used that curve. Interesting. My normal 220/600 did much better.

 

It isn’t worth on my unit, only lower bit Temperature like 1 or 2 running benchmarks Firestrike but huge cpu performance drop (around -3K physical), it still boosts to 3,9 though.

 

Still new to the laptop tweak game. I sit at high ambient so have been focused on keeping low temps but I cannot seem to get a higher physics score. Is there a way to fix that?

Was in Gaming Auto; settings attached. What are your cpu settings?

 

Sorry to hear that! What are your cpu settings if you don't mind me asking?

 

Physics is the pure Cpu test. Of course it will be lower as long you decrease (crippling) the clock speed for your Cpu.

 

Have tried increasing the clocks but actually ended up with worse performance. Would this be a temperature issue in that case?

 

All depends on what Power limits Razer engineers have added (long and short term power - PL1 and 2). As long temp is below throttling point and the chips have power limit headroom the clocks should run at it's max (aka 3.9GHz on all cores). And the 3DM Firestike Physics test is short.

 

I see, will continue to tinker with it. Thank you!

 

I keep my undervolt offset at -0.140

 

is it normal that the 8750h is undervoltable with a -180mv and a -120mv on cache, without any problems ? did they overvolt that much ? when doing cinebench the cpus are all at 3,9ghz and 0.9v of vid, temps are 68 - 70 while running the cinebench and score is 1126 or is that all the fault of the low set 35w tdp that razer did ?

 

It’s gaming mode, balanced mode I use only for paperwork or media consumption. I use intel xtu, undervolting-135mV. My cores is on default setting 41,40,39. Lowering your cpu clock it will of course low the performance. Yes like @Papusan mentioned it’s quite short on Firestrike on last two tests only, try cinebench 5 to 10 times, due locked tdp Blade 15 will stay around 1100 to 1200 on gaming mode in several tests if you find your best (also temperature matter) setting value for it.

I think it’s actually -120mv, forgot where I saw or read it, there’s also advantage and disadvantages lowering the core too much. Every cpu is different on this like GPU OC value. Poeple may want 1200 on multi cinebench but it’s great temperature you have I got higher not 1200 though but temperatures are higher than yours. Idk the difference on rendering works but on my usage, gaming, the difference between 900ish out of box that I saw on YouTube vs mine 1100ish, on pubg that poeple says cpu hunger, i got similar 80ish FPS ultra with that YouTube video.

 

How did you go with the brass insert. Mine did the same . I told Razer they haven't gotten back to me and said they never heard of that. Tonnes of people are saying the same.

 

So Razer contacted me directly about my power adapter issues and they sent me a brand new unit. Its an August 2018 build and has some slight modifications (Someone already mentioned the copper color cooler and thermal pad on the SSD). It also appears to already have the latest bios update as well.

 

Wow. Razor CS seems to be getting so much better.

 

The ssd mod is absolutely helpful and a must. I'm really happy Razer is including pads on the newer builds. The copper color cooler not being painted black however; I don't think helps anything... Just a way to speed up production and it doesn't look as pretty. Not that many people care about under the hood visuals anyways.

 

They are good in my experience, well EU region. I sent my Blade 14 to diagnosing and they did that within a week and exchanged parts that needs to be changed. All free. New buyer thought it was new unit even I play games a lot on that, and it should be dirty with finger prints, dust on 14 months usage. I think they cleaned also it. Maybe it’s also because we have a repair center in Germany.

 

Hi!
New Razer user here, nice to meet you all!

How did you guys manage to contact the support center for our machine, if the Blade 2018 does not appear in the System list of the support form?
I have a bad issue with lighting bleed from the bottom screen corners, which is a pain considering I work extensively in photo retouching/post production.

I need to contact them to ask for a screen replacement, but I cannot fulfill the support format because the new Blade is not selectable! It is not present at all!
And live chat is not an option in Europe (I'm based in France at the moment).

Thank you all in advance for your help, I hope I'll be able to use the laptop extensively asap, and so to post here some considerations and benchmarks.
Since now I'm in love with the clean monolithic design, and the overall outstanding build quality/solidity (screen light-bleed a part, obviously). Also the possibility to upgrade Ram and Ssd is very very promising!

Best to y'all,

Riccardo

 

Try to pick up other thema or options, most important is you get contact with them, I think they’ll arrange for you the tickets number to appropriate department. I remember when I couldn’t pick a theme I just picked up something else and it was fine.

 

Thank you! I used the general inquiry/question form, as you suggested. Hopefully they will get back to me soon!

 

To be honest I don’t think you will get a screen completely free of light bleeding at the bottom of the panel. There will be some but not 100%

 

I really see your point, that's what I am worried about. Is the bleeding coming from the almost "bazel-less" screen design?
My situation is not as bad as some others I saw in the net, but still is annoying - considering I need to work with it, and the price range too!
I could post some photos of the screen, I would be interested to see what you guys think..but I don't want to bring the thread so much off topic!

Thanks for the reply

 

I got my 4k Razer last Thursday. Just done initial disk test and temps max I saw it go to was 38C..
I don't have any screen bleed. Not that I can see. I have done a youtube video which I will post and link shortly.