Razer Blade 15.6" (GTX 1060/1070, 2018 edition) Owner's Lounge

I have pictures, I used Conductonaut. Blew my mind, wasn't prepared for that to happen.

 

The heatsink will always look like that, what about the core?

 

Okay, thank you! I wasn't sure if I was missing something on my end or not (like a bad driver, I spend like 2 hours last night checking them all =_= ) but if it is a known issue then hopefully it will be fixed over time.

 

Have you or anyone else tried one of those Innovation Cooling Graphite Thermal Pads? Been meaning to test one but never got around to it.

 

Didn't get a shot of it, but nothing really stuck to it. It's like it got all absorbed into the heatsink. I noticed nearly 20c difference between 2 Cores so I tore down to inspect. I had thorough coverage of the die but not really any excess. Potentially 'not enough'?

 

I have, poor performance in ALL my systems. They do not work well in laptops.

Yes, that could be possible. I've had this occur once to me before, which I thought may have been the cause of too thick of thermal pads being used, which allowed too much oxygen into the core area which may have sped up the oxidation of gallium. I do not know pad thickness on the RB15, may be worth stepping size down by 0.5mm and reapplying the liquid metal.

 

Considered doing it but it's not as good as Kryonaut, which I'd suggest using instead

I did change out thermal pads. This is a possibility too. Either way I'm content with kryo so I wont be risking it for the biscuit..

 

If you already are uncomfortable with opening your laptop and removing the heatsink, then I would stick to normal thermal paste instead of liquid metal. Easier to use and less long term issues. However, liquid metal will most likely give you (slightly) better results.

 

Guys, from a non pro I have finally managed to upload a video explaining how to undervolt using throttlestop.
Its a simple guide and I know there are a lot of other things in the program I could use but I don't see a consistent message about these so left them out.
Please comment and add some other options and why.

I got some more video goodies lined up, accessories to buy for the wee beastie.

 

More like way better results. My 7700HQ/1060 has not seen temperatures above low 70s on the GPU and mid 60s on the CPU under full load for several hours after liquid metal. No way a conventional compound can deliver those results.

 

So here are pictures of the new blower, I really like its design, look sleek with the RB15. And my temps are better than my old fan stand.

https://imgur.com/a/QErnTps

 

I don't understand this design. The intake vents that need more cool air pushing through them, are on the bottom of the chassis. It looks like your setup is blowing all the air into....the LCD assembly and the exhaust vents on the back of the computer, or maybe I'm looking at it wrong

 

Is it only me who couldn’t see the video Come on @Datus did i do something bad to you

Actually my old Blade 14 1060 never went above low 60ish too, cpu was on low 80ish though. Didn’t do repasting, all default paste only bios moding to unlock access to aspm setting and undervolting etc through bios. I’ve only Firestrike result from that I think I don’t have temperature photoshot from that anymore, sold 4 months ago to buy this Blade.
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/20820726

 

Never your one of my best commentators. I upload private and do all the stuff you do before publish and some how either I forgot or had too many tabs open, I didn't tick the show it to the public.
Im impressed its had 27 views already. Thanks to all those who help me, took 3 full days to do this one. I watched it and think really, but that's when its all worth it when something looks effortless, you have hit it!

 

So my blade just up and bluescreened on me this morning and won’t recover. Doing a fresh install now. Question for everyone - which drivers on the support page actually need to be installed? Windows usually installs its own for most in my past experience.

 

In the October event 10/10/2018 (Razer), we know they are looking to release the Razer Phone 2. There is "Gaming lineup" in a lot of the promo, so it would indicate multiple products to be showcased. They have just recently released a headphone so I don't think it's that, nor a mouse. What could the other items be? Perhaps a refreshed Stealth or similar device which focuses on using e-GPU? The Stealth is quite dated compared to the competition (and upcoming Whiskey Lake variants).

Edit: "Tune in to our special keynote event on 10.10.18 and find out more about our new flagship products." - https://www.razer.com/flagship-gaming

 

How so?

 

It's larger, has bigger bezels and battery life doesn't compete as well. No Windows Hello and no Touch/4k options. One TB3 port. Some things may or may matter to you, but I am just talking about how it is behind some of the competition. Whiskey Lake will be a nice update to boot as it can have integrated WiFi controller and no longer rely on wifi cards like Killer.

 

All beside nvidia imo. I updated later intel drivers with intel drivers update utility and download and install all update that is shown . Nvidia driver i install directly from nvidia, only driver without Nvidia experience since I don’t need it. Windows at the end do security and windows update. All working fine so far after fresh install new ssd around 2 weeks, no drivers issues also on Razer Core setting, plug and play.

 

I installed pretty much the entire list on Razer site. I probably should look at some of the direct sites (nvidia, intel, Samsung etc) I’m still finishing off the install process, so drivers directly from the specific manufacturer is next on my list.

I’ve done some throttle stop work over the couple of weeks I have had the laptop, no blue screen for me.

 

Well these things do happen sometimes, many things can mess up with the computer software.. Like the latest windows update deleting user files in some cases.
Fresh install is the best choice to handle this case. hope nothing important was lost with the reinstall.

Sincerely,
-Villehaseo

 

For all those who are interested or waiting to buy a Razer Blade 15 here is a video showing all the configurable options for V105

 

I ended up installing most of my drivers from Razer's website, with the exception of my Integrated Graphics and Wireless Card which I got from Intel's website directly. Initially I had been using the latest Nvidia Drivers mixed with some of the default stuff that windows put on there and didn't really grab anything from Razer's website. However that proved to be a mistake, I ended up having an issue where none of my games would recognize my discrete graphics and therefore wouldn't run. I ended up reinstalling both my GPU drivers and things seems to be working much better now. (I've logged about 4-6 hours on Tomb Raider so far with this laptop and it's been very impressive, my micro stuttering issue even seems to have finally gone away when loading applications.)

 

I'm collecting all of the various Blade 15.6 repaste posts to summarize effectiveness of each paste.

If anyone has any results that haven't been posted yet, kindly DM me with your before/after temps, undervolt, and type of paste. Thanks!

 

LM will the best thermal solution for sure. All other traditional pastes will fall in line within 1-2 degree delta.

LM will have the largest delta.

 

There's a winre partition which I guess is a recovery to factory install.
try that, press f8 during boot I think to get to it or ask tech support.

 

Yeah for sure - hopefully I'll be able to quantify how much better it is, though! Also, the non-conductive repastes seem to be inconsistent - some people report a huge drop in temperatures, while others don't get much benefit at all. Hopefully I can consolidate the various reports to get something conclusive

 

I actually can't wait for the 2019 version of the Razer Blade 15, probably will be a day 1 purchase for me. Does anyone think they may fix the right shift key and the secondary function lack of backlight issue on the keyboard? Other than that, maybe add Windows hello and it'll probably be the best laptop for years to come. It really is the closest laptop to perfection imo.

 

IMO I don’t think they will change anything at all in 2019 and it will be the same exact thing.

 

The secondary lighting issue was carried over from years and years of the problem existing on the prior case, so I have to imagine it's a limitation of their Chroma tech that they're not willing to resolve, unfortunately. I can't imagine that they'd let the issue go on for so long if they had any intention on resolving it. Would love to see it happen, though!

 

I can’t see how it could be chroma related, isn’t it simply the case of changing the opacity of the key cap on those keys at the secondary function location?

 

It's not necessarily that simple, only decreasing the opacity of the key wouldn't guarantee that the light would be able to shine through the newly-transparent portion brightly. The LED would need to be designed to diffuse light across the length of the key, or a mechanism would need to be installed in addition to the LED to diffuse that light. These are all mechanisms that increase the complexity of the keys, which risks them becoming thicker. It would seem that Razer has historically elected to prioritize thinness.

 

No i don’t think so, such secondary backlight isn’t chroma Issue, it’s more on design, and it’s bright enough so you can notice it even from grills fans from bottom, they just went since Blade 2016 (2015 and previous had it) with no secondary function key lightning for simple design. There’s blackwidow with function key that light, but I personally don’t like it since it’s too much. That’s why I went with blackwidow X that more stealth, no too much lightning. Yes it’s subjective though, Razer should have the options for users who need that since I saw also users like you who want it. I made my color profile to remember those function keys at first but know after using it years I can remember it.

 

Hey all!
My first post here, and hope everyone is doing well. I just received my RB 1070 144hz today and ran some tests (firestrike) out of the box following driver updates. For some reason I cannot get it past 13,5K on fire strike. Temps were good (CPU: mid 70s w/ 80c spike GPU: low to mid 70s). System was set to gaming mode/auto fan + -.125uv via throttlestop w/ speed shift -EPP set to 0. UV only seemed to have minor impact regarding temp. FYI, I have the LM (CPU/GPU) version w/ fujipoly thermal pads.

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/29248570?

Any ideas? Thanks.

 

Try run the original ssd and latest Nvidia driver?

 

You're wrong. The LED's are more than bright enough that just changing the opacity will fix it. No other design changes would be needed - it was just a design choice they made for some reason.

 

@darkloki the 144hz panel is driven by optimus or the dgpu?

If its optimus, can you switch to full dGPU mode (in bios or elsewhere) or are you stuck with optimus?

 

What doesnt make sense to me is the Razer blade has the cooling solution to handle the 8750 and comes with a higher power supply than any other laptop in this class with a 230w brick so why in the world is the CPU power throttling? and why is it s severe. I mean the CPU throttles to 3.2 in most benchmarks and some games even when the temps are under 80c it makes no sense....

 

sadly stuck with garbage bag optimus unless you plug a external display into it.

 

They has learned by High cost from the past (RMA and repair cost money). Lower temps will lower their cost. The customers experience come second or last.

 

Are you experiencing power throttle in games too? I only throttle to 25w in balanced mode, gaming mode never hits throttle wattage. After my last repast, windows repair, and the bios update, I can leave BDPROC HOT on and not throttle either, but before it would power throttle much earlier with that option engaged.

 

The gpu use maybe higher tgp unlike other competitors with 180 watt ac adapter that’s why other maxq 1070 hardly getting 15K Firestrike overall, they seems do tons tweak to reach 15K. The new zephyrus s, they use also 230 watt ac adapter on 1070maxq model and Firestrike score is similar with Blade 15, they have also similar default OC mode like gaming mode on Synapse. Power limit throttle is maybe their way to prevent cpu thermal throttle even on some systems it is not on throttle temperatures range. But believe me you want to use balanced mode, and use the limited power when playing Ubisoft game for the good of your Blade, this was only benchmark temperature, long session gaming may add +5 degrees.
Gaming mode 4800rpm

Balanced mode 4800rpm

To anyone who LM or repasting their Blade tell me if you have the game (AC Odyssey) and run by the cpu not hitting 80ish, core setting is exceptional though

 

I cannot find a direct link, but Razer surprisingly made a "Base Model" 15. Existing model is now called "Advanced Model." Seems like Razer intended to make it available now.

https://www.razer.com/gaming-laptops/razer-blade

0.1" / 3mm thicker
+HDD space
65Whr battery (down from 80 Whr)
Single zone KB lighting
$300 cheaper
screen is 1080p60 only
1060 Max-Q only
+ 1Gbps Ethernet
Heatpipe cooling (vs vapor chamber)


Sometime later this year, the "Advanced Model" is planned to get a "Mercury White" limited edition.

EDIT: Razer didn't increase the warranty on their laptops, but (most of?) their peripherals (purchased from today onwards) get a 2 year warranty.

EDIT2: NBC link
https://www.notebookcheck.net/New-R...bigger-fans-and-a-cheaper-price.337144.0.html

 

So now you can get a smaller battery and HDD 60hz model... And an eye-candy white model but only 1060 gpu.

WHY IS RGB SNAKE LOGO ONLY ON PHONE WTF.

edit: scratch that, the mercury option is on the 1070 512gb model too.

 

The mercury option seems nice!

As for the budget version, I think putting only a 65Wh battery in it was a shame, especially since they increased the size of the machine.

 

They’re on right direction, now Blade 15 for the first time can control the lightning on all models, i believe on next Blade 15 there will be a chroma rgb.

They put 2,5 hdd and ethernet port but took vapor chamber and reduce battery size I think it’s to keep the small chassis.

 

Ye I know, I just don't think the price drop is enough to justify such a quality drop, the base 128GB SSD/1TB HDD is still £1,479.99. I doubt anyone can realistically put all their library of game and OS in that 128 GB SSD - and you don't want to install games on the HDD because you will suffer a huge performance drop.

I would rather just pay the £1,699.99 for the 256GB SSD base 60HZ original model and have a smaller device, better battery (80Wh), vapour cooling chamber etc. That HDD is a POS and I don't know how many people actually will benefit from an ethernet port frankly!

If the base model was closer to £1,200, maybe, but even then for me it is a junk purchase.

For the difference of £220 you are gaining:

+ 1TB HDD
+ Some ports

and losing:

- 128GB SSD
- Vapour cooling chamber
- Battery capacity
- New gen Chroma lightning (these have previous generation chroma lightning)
- Thin design

Doesn't make sense at all. The con's greatly outweigh the pro's, £220 is just laughable.

 

Mostly you’re right, only about hdd, you’re wrong there’s no performance drop by installing games on HDD, Maybe you meant loading speed, thought 3,1 usb speed is also enough to transfer gaming data. Before I upgraded to 1tb, most my steam and Ubisoft games are loaded from external HDD, since I had only 256gb on current Blade and previous Blade 512gb. Even Assassin Creed Odyssey and FFXV loaded similar with putting it on ssd, 8750H also support the load times even better compared to my old dual core 7500U, with this cpu you don’t want loading games from hdd.
About base model,

 

Yep loading speed, it’s heavily noticeable in many titles, even old titles like WoW. You just have to read about the difference SSD makes to games, its night and day. I’d never install software/games on HDD, only media content like pictures or movies and, backups.

Also, these are differences noticed on full fat overclocked 95W+ desktop CPU builds, not merely 45W laptops which throttle, so I doubt having a more powerful CPU can make HDD acceptable to many gamers. Maybe not all games are affected quite as badly, but many are - and frankly I wouldn't even want any degradation for a pittance of a saving.

PathOfExile was fun with my friend who was on a HDD (on his desktop machine), he would load so much later than I would into areas that I could do quite a lot of the area before he even got a chance to play. After seeing some of the insane load speeds on Twitch, he promptly upgraded and never looked back.

 

Did you try with Blade 15? 2 Months I played from HDD AC Origins, FFXV etc Steam games installed to SSD after upgrading, there’s maybe load speed improvement, but isn’t noticeable. On stealth dual cores yes it took forever to load from save game both on FFXV and AC Origins, but on Blade 15 only seconds, like normal loading on ssd. It’s also happened on AC Odyssey now i had that on HDD it was fast enough, didn’t notice the difference after I moved it to internal 970 Evo with over 3gb reading speed, maybe it’s because the game, but as I said such open worlds games will load like forever due rendering the textures on my stealth if using its USB to HDD port on TB3 (on core v2 setting).