Razer Blade Pro 17" (1080 GPU/late 2016) Owner's Lounge

That makes Apple an OSX laptop? No one is buying Apple for Windows. Razer has them beat at everything but the trackpad, and even there Razer is 2nd best.

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Once Dell refreshes the XPS 15 with the GTX 1050, I'd personally prefer that over a Blade. That option will at least ensure the fact my laptop won't heat up to the point of throttling.

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Alright smart ass, if I have to spell it out for you I guess I will (consider this a Christmas Gift) Multiple people have stated from reviews to users that Razer Systems are Mac Esque, so when I stated what's the make apple, I merely meant if Razer is the best, what's that make the company whom they are copying from? **Because you didn't know that nor have you ever heard that before and you've been under a rock for the last 4 years**

Anyways, Welcome to 2016 and soon 2017 !!! It's going to be incredible!!

Moving on, plenty of people are buying apple machines for windows... There are a great number of users who converted over to Apple Systems and use both OSX and Bootcamp. In fact Cisco offers every employee within their organization a Macbook Pro who utilize both Bootcamp and OSX and at this point I can rattle off multiple consulting firms who have done the same. Bootcamp users are far higher then what the average person thinks they are.

 

That's the point. OSX is the main attraction. If you want only Windows, a MacBook is not the best option. The fact that MacBooks are inefficient Windows machines is only one of many reasons.

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woot gtx 1080 on a 15inch laptop ;O thats gonna be my next laptop as well...

 

Thought I'd post this here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-SEALED-...552444?hash=item3f71f0e57c:g:5qgAAOSwNE5YW-5L

If someone wanted a Razer Blade Pro I do feel like this is a reasonable asking price... Was considering getting it myself but I'll wait for Mobius to finish up his review and I should also look to return or sell my new 2016 Macbook Pro before go off and purchase another $3000+ system.

 

I kind of wish they'd make a version of this without a dGPU installed so I could get better battery life when I need to be on battery (nobody actually games on battery, do they?) and then plug into a Razer Core when I sit down to game. I think the Core is small enough that you can pack it into your checked luggage for people like me who travel a lot. I would think that'd also help with heat management to move the GPU out of the system itself. I know they make the Stealth already, but the screen is too small and the low power CPU, from everything I've read, is a bottleneck to using a high end GPU with the Core.

I was kind of in the same camp thinking this was too much money when it was first announced, but the keyboard (everybody but Linus has said it's great) and the display are really tempting for me lately. I have a Gigabyte P37W right now, and while it's been decent, the keyboard and trackpad are pretty poor, and my battery has really taken a dump in recent months, losing about 40% of the original capacity almost surely because of the high heat during gaming. I don't think I'll be buying another Gigabyte/Aorus laptop. The Alienware 17 has been on my list as well, but it seems there have been some problems with it as well, with uneven core temps and not especially good display options.

The other option I've been considering is getting the new XPS 15 when it comes out and using it with a Razer Core for gaming. 15" is really my minimum for my personal preference, and even that is pushing it. I really like having the 17" display.

 

the display is top-notch, i read that alienware is gonna provide a 17 with the 1080 and the 4k igzo at some point, but for now they only have the same tn panel i don't care for. its priced for $3600 with the 1080 and the tn display (and unlocked CPU and 32GB RAM), guessing the 4k display may up the price a little bit more, making it comparable to the Blade Pro.

 

Your post doesn't make much sense? So Alienware does have a gtx 1080 right now? I see it no where?

 

They do, go to the 17 and it's last on their list of configurations starting at $3500. I wouldn't buy it with that panel though.

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Found it thank you, it's hidden on mobile you have to hit "show more configurations" woah that thing is expensive, I purchased the Razer Blade Pro for the portability, the great screen, the mechanical keyboard, trackpad placement, touch screen an finally the weight of 7lbs.

However for the Alienware to only have a 1440p screen is confusing? I assume a lot of these prices will have to go down as that seems a little out of this world for a laptop of that power to not have 4K, also it weighs 10lbs which at this price point it shouldn't.

 

yeah, the only similar spec competition for the Pro in its form-factor is the Aorus x7, which is OK, if they put an igzo panel in it like they do with the x3 I may have kept it.

 

what if they bring 1080 TI GTX on laptop :O
waiting for ces 2017, we gonna see some crazy innovations..

 

Has anyone actually contacted razer about the problems with the blade pro? And lack of gfx drivers?
The fact they don't seem to have certification from nvidia for the gtx1080

 

Maybe Nvidia are ashamed to call that gimped abomination a 1080?

Jokes aside, do the drivers seriously not work?

 

Only the ones from Razer , that were released at the time of launch.
Or unless you mod the NVIDIA ones.

 

Doesn't that defeat the purpose of having a GPU in the first place?...

 

Kinda. But for some reason NVIDIA is taking its sweet time to add the Razers 1080s device IDs.

 

No? Sure, they need to fix it, but saying it defeats the purpose of having a GPU is quite an exaggeration. There are drivers for the GPU, they're just not the most recent ones from Nvidia.

 

Well, considering this is a high-end product aimed at playing new products - it's kind of counterproductive to not have driver optimization for said new product. Sure, it works, but it's not optimal and when you're paying 4000$, you really should get the very best.

 

Yeah, but it's not like the GPU doesn't work at all. It has an official driver. It's just that it would probably work a little better with the latest driver.

Hopefully they get it squared away soon as I'm interested in this laptop, but not if it means hacking drivers for the entire time I own the thing to make sure I have the latest ones.

 

"A little better" is an understatement - I've seen performance increases of up to 20% in games with the proper driver vs the older one. Hell, when DS3 launched, some people were getting close to 40% more performance with the final fixed driver compared to the older ones prior to the game's launch.

See what I mean? Now imagine if you had this for a month already with no sign of a new driver appearing - I'd imagine you'd be frustrated, especially if the current driver were to cause an issue with a game you really like.

 

Oh, I'm not saying people shouldn't be frustrated. They absolutely should. Like I said, that's a big reason I haven't bought one yet.

And you're right, I hadn't considered people playing brand new games on the older drivers. I usually wait for them to go on sale on Steam, so I never have to deal with those issues. It's still not nearly as bad as having no dGPU at all though, which is all I was saying in the first place.

 

True - the GPU still works but having an unsupported dGPU is very frustrating, especially in cases like Rainbow 6 where using the older drivers results in massive artifacting and crashing - some people, like myself, might get paranoid

 

This is a gaming laptop. So to not have the latest drivers is a complete shambles.
There are now 4 games that won't run properly including Fronza 3 , some give warning that drivers are out of date . Some refuse to load

 

Yea, that's the REAL scandal at this point: Why is it taking so long to get the deviceID into the Nvidia released drivers? Obviously they work fine [Hoofhearted FTW] so what's REALLY going on?

 

I think the general consensus is that razer can't gain nvidia to support the 1080 because they have gimped it to much.
They can't get the card to perform within nvidia gidelines and % of nvidia performance guidelines.
To me this is strange razer must have known about nvidias stipulation that the card must perform within a certain range.
Razer still has on there website desktop performance 1080 and we all know that they have gimped the card. So I am going to be sending an email to them stating that the machine is not performing as advertised, if they don't fix this ridiculous situation soon.
It's unacceptable for the most expensive laptop on the planet to not be performing as promised and for razer to think it's okay to do this

 

Marc, there's no "general consensus" that this is the case at all.

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I've been all over the website and all Min Liang Tan's reveal videos. NOWHERE does Razer say GTX 1080 desktop PERFORMANCE.

They either say "Desktop CLASS GPU" [it is, it's the same hardware, regardless of how they have it setup]
Or they say "desktop CLASS performance [which is TECHNICALLY true, as they don't specify what LEVEL of desktop.

I honestly think a lot of people missed the word "class" and interpreted it to mean desktop GTX 1080 PERFORMANCE.

I got my replacement today, and immediately hacked the latest drivers. I get 150-180 on Diablo 3, with occasional dips down into the 125 FPS range, which is what I get on my desktop. I know it's not the most intensive game on the planet, but it's comparable in spec.

While thinking about all this earlier, though, I wonder if the mess with Geforce experience is what's causing Nvidia to hold off adding Razer's deviceIDs to their driver sets. That and some janky Gsync issues [I get a weird "jiggling" on the very top of the screen in HoTS with Gsync on] Things like Gsync just capping games at 60 FPS [my understanding was it was supposed to allow me uncapped FPS with no tearing .. ? Do I have that correct?]

This is the second machine that I've had, and neither one of them seems to underperform to the point of calling it "crippling". It's DEFINITELY not working like I would think it's supposed to, but it's more the other issues I mention above vs performance.

Though if they could manage to give me another 20 FPS without overheating the machine I wouldn't complain

 

Armed with the game-changing NVIDIA Pascal architecture GPU, unleash gaming dominance in the incredibly thin Razer Blade Pro. The flagship GeForce GTX 1080 delivers all the performance of a desktop in a mobile form factor with 3x the performance and power efficiency of previous-gen GPUs. Play your games the way they were meant to be played, at ultra-settings and in 4K resolution.
All the performance ? I am not getting into wording but something is not sitting right with no drivers or driver updates...

 

nailed it.

 

No, you're reading into it. It says "The flagship GTX 1080 delivers all the performance of *A* desktop".

And it does. . . They just don't say *WHICH* desktop. It's clever marketing, but it's VERY carefully worded.

Seriously though, with the latest Nvidia drivers, I'm not seeing much difference between my desktop and the Blade Pro that can't be explained by the mobile CPU. I've got MwO installing and I'll be hooking up my Rift at some point in the next day or so when I can get my kid off my desktop long enough to rescue it.

 

Then you need to try a newer AAA title.

 

Why would I waste my money? It's all console ported garbage.

Don't think I'm hating on you personally, though. I'm now on my SECOND machine that randomly shuts down during HoTS. Anyone wanna calculate the odds on getting TWO machines with a low voltage problem on the CPU? Or maybe it's a bad patch of power supplies?

Someone suggested that it was Geforce Experience, which I've never had a problem with in the past. I've uninstalled, guess time will tell.

The worst part is, the only reason I even WANNA play HoTS is because for some reason the machine won't...

 

Only reason i mention that is because games like Diablo in no way depict the actual metrics. Heck a 1060 can probably match the same figures.

HoTS on the other hand, pushes things much further, causing more heat generation and power draw. Mainly because of the higher FPS and load.

 

What exactly is HoTS? Cause I cannot fathom that being Heroes of the Storm as that game is very low end - I mean, just run Windowed fullscreen and performance is stellar, thermals are low, noise is non-existent and lag is minimal.

 

That's how run it. When I usually play that game.
Not sure why the blade pro can't handle it.

 

This is indeed quite puzzling - even my old 2010 system (Athlon II X2 250 + 6850) can run that game at 1080p without issue. No reason for a Blade Pro to fall flat on its face.

 

The Blade Pro can definitely handle it. Problem seems to be coming from either the old drivers or custom ones. Or something else entirely. People who are having the issue, haven't posted any relevant data that could be used to help them.

 

Actually I found the issue. Reading through forum threads I ran over people having issues based on Nvidia control panel 3d application power settings.

Specifically, Nvidia has one that's labeled: Optimal Power. It was set on default, and apparently is glitchy as heck from what I've read. I changed global setting to adaptive, and as of this posting I was able to run 5 consecutive matches with long pauses in between without an issue.

Razer tech support was clueless, tried to tell me I needed to do a system restore and use stock drivers, completely IGNORING the fact that I'd already RMA'd once for the same issue, so I sent them a kind heads-Up message to give them my findings.

Personally I'm thrilled, because the only reason I was so desperate to PLAY HoTS was because it didn't work Now I can go back to relaxing.

But at least the answer is now recorded as a possible fix [if I have a week no issues I'll call the issue resolved]

 

That the system is having issues with High Power Draw. Because by default some of Blizzards games automatically force the Prefer High Performance setting.

 

i upgraded my SSDs today, wasn't hard at all, and did a fresh windows install by creating a Windows USB drive and then installed the drivers off the razer support site. Only missing driver is the NVIDIA one as of right now. So stuck using the latest driver with the modded inf.

 

now i know why the nov 18th gfx driver was unavailable, new driver download listed dec 31 available right now. installing, 376.20

 

Hey everyone , I have the new razer blade pro on its way. Having an issue with UPS. They have it at my local hub but won't deliver it till Tuesday; temperatures here in Michigan are 20 to 40F and it will sit outside in a trailer for days. I'm thinking to now reject the package and have it returned to Amazon in case this ruins the screen. Should I be worried and reject it or accept it with possible damage from the cold ?

 

That's not really that cold. I don't see any reason to worry. If it gets messed up from temps like that, there are going to be some really unhappy Canadians.

 

Oh trust me, if Razer doesn't cover a 3500$ machine enough to not be ruined by a simple shipping procedure, I'd sue the #### outta them.

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Alright I'll just accept it then. I figure I'll just let it warm up in the box for a couple hours when I get it. Wasn't sure if 20 to 40F temps would have any affect on the screen.

 

I found driver on razer website downloading now

 

Gsync is designed to work at or below your display's native refresh rate. From the way I understand it, if your FPS are higher than your display's refresh rate, you start getting tearing again, which is why you're supposed to have your FPS capped at your display's refresh rate.

 

You have to enable vsync also, then you dont get tearing when FPS are higher than refresh rate.

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