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    Razer Blade Pro 17" (1080 GPU/late 2016) Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Razer' started by reloader-1, Oct 20, 2016.

  1. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Yeah, Very decent Wprime bench score. What a big Joke. Higher Wprime score the better? :D
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  2. Blazertrek50

    Blazertrek50 Notebook Evangelist

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    I have mine listed on eBay but might cancel the auction. How much did you sell yours for? I really am enjoying mine so very much...
     
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    i sold mine 3200 via paypal invoice. it sold for 3350 on ebay and then the jerk canceled it because "i didnt think it was gonna go that high" when it shows him clearly bidding to it at the last second. hahaha. i loved the razer blade but i needed something more powerful than the 6700hq. im using an asus rog g701-xs78k right now and its a beast. 17886 in firestrike. 0.0 my RB2 was hitting about 14000 max with a 200/400mhz OC.

    nothing will replace the feel of the blade pro though that was an extremely high quality product from razer. build quality is exceptional. everything about it was awesome. i really hope that the v2 performs as well as my asus does. i might return in the future if thats the case but after buying the v1 i wouldve ended up spending close to $5k if i bought the new one.
     
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    Then, why on earth did you buy it? :rolleyes: 6700hq have been out long time. All should know how it performed.
     
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    because i thought it was gonna be enough for what i needed it to do, and it wasnt. why do you have to comment on everything?
     
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  6. hmscott

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    It seems like we sometimes "belabor the point", but that's because that point keep's getting skipped over, glossed over, ignored - even after it's been proven in the field - as you have done.

    A flat, locked, low end CPU isn't going to be able to drive a mid to high end GPU to it's full potential, certainly not a GTX 1080.

    The 7700HQ is 300mhz better, but still not up there with a 7820HK or 7700K, so if you are comparing the top benchmark results for your GPU against a low end CPU and an underpowered (smaller than needed PSU) GPU, you are going to end up being disappointed.

    Which you were... sorry about that. o_O
     
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  7. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Why is my question problematic?
    I have always researched what power new hardware can bring me. Hwbot.org and Notebookcheck.net is well known. As well info all over the internet.
     
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    haha yeah i was upgrading from a 2012 macbook pro retina so it was a major improvement. but once i started getting used to it and starting putting more workload (4k editing, 42mp raw photos) i noticed it wasnt enough for what i was doing. it was a good experience and overall still a good laptop. but they shouldve just put an unlocked processor in it to begin with...oh well hahah
     
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  9. Blazertrek50

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    I have used mine for 4 months and have not had one problem. It plays all my games quite excellently, watching TV/movies on it is sweet and it looks amazing. The build quality is second to none and I have owned multiple Alienware laptops. I am having a really hard time selling it as it fits all my needs and looks so beautiful, which is important to me as well. So while I get many requests to sell it for $3,300 to $4,000, I end up keeping it. So the ones of you that whine about it's underuse of the GTX 1080, it doesn't't matter one whit to me and most if not all the people that have purchased this superbly built and unique gaming machine. I thought I was an obsessive Alienware fanboy, what with owning over a dozen of their desktops/laptops over the past 10 years and backpacks, clothing and other peripherals! You should see all the Razer gear I now have, lol.
     
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  10. Shoutoutjt

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    Yep I felt the same way. I only chose to upgrade mine because I NEEDED to. Helps a lot when it's my career making videos / photos. Other than that I would've kept it.
     
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    bank999 Newbie

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    anyone here try replaste on this razer blade pro 2016?
     
  12. hmscott

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    Razer's Blade Pro is 17 inches of pure excitement
     
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  13. Vistar Shook

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    Well, the RB 14 upgrade was just a Kabylake update and bump in DDR4 speed...that´s it....other than the 4k option, that hasn´t arrived yet. Also, the price went up :eek:.
     
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    Dude this thread is for the RBP not the 14 inch. You might wanna pay attention next time, just saying.
     
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    Thanks for the heads up, reposted in the 14" thread...
     
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    Anyone swap ssd's on the RBP 2016/2017 yet? If you have a link to a video or post that would be helpful, how hard it is to open the back panel?
     
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    i did it, its not hard, but there are two screws underneath the rubber base, you can see the circle pattern of rubber, just carefully pry them out and you can re-apply them after you put it all back together. good luck.
     
  19. TareX

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    Lisa ****ed up BIG TIME. This is the 2016 Razer Blade Pro, not the 2017 Razer Blade Pro v2. I'm so disappointed with MTR.

    Now, this laptop is available IN STOCK for over a month. I cannot find *any* reviews or benchmarks. My wallet is ready, but after seeing the 1080 GTX in the 2016 model perform like a 1070, I need benchmarks. Anyone have benchmarks for the 7820hk model???
     
  20. don_svetlio

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    @TareX the 1080 has not been changed - it still performs like a 1070 - the only upgrade was the CPU - we need benchmarks of that since some early theories warn caution with regards to the higher heat output of the 7820HK over the 6700HQ.
     
  21. TareX

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    Yeah but you'd think they'd change something to make sure the 1080 performed like a 1080. It's a $4900 laptop...
     
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    That would mean making it thicker and heavier so as to be able to cool it - even now, they can barely keep the whole device cool enough
     
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  23. Papusan

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    Run the new Razer with the advertised overclock... Expect the 1080 will change behaviour to the worse. More heat from Cpu... Yeah, I hope you know what will happen to Pascal boost :rolleyes: Kaby's efficiency can not compensate for increased clock speed.
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  24. Derek712

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    The overclock is pointless. The CPU hits 99 and throttles with almost every demanding game. No thanks.

    Even at 3.9, I'm still in the high 90s a lot.

    Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
     
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  25. Papusan

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    Yeah, Why put on OC if it can't hold advertised Turbo boost? This is from latest AWBook 17R4 in Witcher 3 game stress test. Expect same for Razer. Only worse because the OC is higher. Aka 4.3 vs. 4.2GHz
    [​IMG]
     
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  26. iunlock

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    Hehe I see you lurking in here eh? :p

    At any rate, I just finished a complete makeover with Liquid Magic on the RBP v1 and will be getting in the v2 Kaby next week.. Of course I'll put it through the rigors of my test that all my systems go through.

    You won't believe the things razer skimped out on...just incredible. I thought the XPS 15 was bad with them skimping out on certain things, but the Razer is on a whole different level of shame. Whoever the engineers are were drunk and everyone in between who approved this..

    I'll include all of this in my full review...

    Also, regarding the 17R4 Kaby... I'm sure you're referring to stock system + power limit unlocked temps yes? Because my 17R4 runs cool as a cucumber as you have seen...To be fair that is...

    Every gaming laptop will have temp issues stock if the power limits are unlocked, however, what matters for us is how it does after a proper repaste etc... That's what counts for guys like us...

    But the sad thing is, the majority is consisted of the gamer boy consumer base who don't want to bother with anything, but just turn it on and play...

    This is where razer falls flat on its face with trying to pull an Apple (let alone totally ripping off their design almost 1:1) in trying to offer a product that is good right out of the box. Ambitious, but stupid of them...

    My review is about to expose everything...the truth will be told with details that really matter. There are some things that I like, but that is a very short list that gets crushed by the long list of everything else.

    ...The countdown has begun...
     
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  27. Derek712

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    When you say v1, do you mean the Skylake version or the prior model?

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    RBP 2016 Skylake w/ GTX 1080. <- The one that I've just finished up with a repaste, hs mod etc...

    Incoming is the RBP 2017 Kaby w/ GTX 1080.
     
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    Nice! I was wondering if someone was ever going to do that. How much were you able to improve the CPU temps?

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    HaHa. I gather up info as always.
    Turn on and play... Hope for max advertised clocks without problems in slime thin chassis, is same as believing on Santa Claus coming down the chimney every Christmas :vbbiggrin: Put this revamped system in Aida64 Stress test with FPU and GPU checked. And max temp from former 6700hq in this chassis will be more like freezing. But we will see it fast enough.
     
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    Last edited: May 20, 2017
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    Great review, I agree with you 100%, I loved the screen and sound and build quality was amazing but Keyboard, Gsync not working, synapse and OC fan controls would work some times and other times not, once I had to go reset bios defaults just to get my cpu clock speeds back to normal.
     
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    Sooo, Razer made it worse and raised the price tag? Yep, nothing new so far.
     
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    Razers hardware engineers didn't design the heatsink for processors who can suck more than 45W TDP. Only put in the obligatory headroom for increased temp due dusty internals!! So this mess was expected.
     
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    For someone who dislikes Razer products so vehemently you certainly do hang around their forum allot. Envious much .


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    How am I supposed to know what to warn people about if I don't know the issues associated with their products. Know thine enemy and thou shalt achieve victory. ;)
     
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    You and I would think so, but then again we wouldn't have done the loyal customer base the insult of shipping a 1080 performing as a 1070 - claiming it was a full 1080 in performance - in the first place.

    Razer did just that, and sold out just fine - based on customer trust in Razer.

    If Razer changed this now, shipped it with a bigger power supply, improved the cooling, and charged the same, all the 1st model customers would feel cheated - or actually they would finally realize they were cheated - right now they are cheated they just don't *feel* cheated.

    If you are interested in full performance, find a vendor that serves that interest, Razer has demonstrated over and over that they aren't that kind of laptop maker.
     
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    His short demo of the fan rattle - heck the fan rattle ain't nothing compared to the turbo jet fan noise of the fans themselves, sheesh.

    Razer Blade Pro massive fan noise issue continue post Razer repair center
     
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    Hey guys, been a little while since i last posted, been busy. I wanted to post my laptop for sale here. I have a 2016 RBP 512 GB hard drive version. I watched the Dave2D review of the alienware 17 R4 and I think it suits my needs better. I love how thin and portable the RBP is but I really don't travel much so I'd rather have the extra horsepower of the alienware and the 120hz display. I'm willing to sell it for $3,000 and that would include the shipping cost. Let me know if you are interested, my e-mail is [email protected]. Laptop is in perfect condition btw.
     
  41. rinneh

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    Fan rattling issues are there with razer blade laptops since day one. You would think they would start using a different brand of fans by now. By far the largest part of the industry uses FCN fans which have a good trackrecord. But they chose to use Coolermaster. Which isnt that widely used in laptops.
     
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    Funny thing is that with all these supposed problems they keep selling them out as fast as they can make them. Methinks the few problems are far overshadowed by a great and powerful and awesome laptop ;)
     
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    No, their marketing department is just very effective and consumers hardly research these days in general.Last but not least they silence any negative opinion on the brand on their forum.
     
  44. Derek712

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    Yup, that about sums it up. I'm sure they also limit their releases. Many times I've seen them go in and out of stock over and over on a weekend. Just because it's sold out, it doesn't mean the demand is high - it could mean the supply is just low.

    Best buy has had a constant supply of new and open box laptops for 3 weeks now, so the demand isn't all that high.
     
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    Only true if you have the numbers to back up your statement. Everyone has opinions, doesn't make them facts without the proof. Just like most consumers do not buy computers based on how well they run tests most people have never heard of. The consumers on these forums are far and away in the minority of computer buyers. You must know this, right?
     
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    Btw. For the records, as well the 7820Hk in Razer Blade Pro 2017 run slower in Wprime and Cinebench R11.5 benchmarks vs. The fully locked down 7700Hq :oops:
     
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    , I couldn't help myself

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    Common sense should tell you that the people willing to drop upwards of $5,000 on a laptop (who are not dyed-in-the-wool Apple loyalists) are enthusiasts. You know, the very same consumers you find on forums like this one?
     
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    Brutal, isn't it? I experienced the same thing. It's not that the CPU choice is a mistake but that the cooling system is complete crap. The Aorus x7 cools just fine and I'm going to assume the next v7 will as well. The differences in cooling systems are night and day. I mean, just look at how small the intakes are on the RBP and you can see where the problems start. Add in a sloppy paste job and a crummy heatsink and now you have a mess. I bet the problems can be corrected but it'll take a lot of work and still some tolerance for some high temps. They should have just put the 7700hq in there if they weren't going to at least try a little harder. Laziness...
     
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    The more correct word... Is Greed. They can charge more for the 7820hk although Intel say they can charge the same for both BGA.
    [​IMG]
     
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