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    Razer Blade Pro 17" (1080 GPU/late 2016) Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Razer' started by reloader-1, Oct 20, 2016.

  1. don_svetlio

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    That one made me laugh out loud, think I scared the cat. Good one friend, great joke.

    Also, the 1080 in the RBP is not really able to live up to its name - a friend just got a 1070 - it's basically ahead in any benchmark that we can find.
     
  2. shoespc

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    Haven't had any issues with Razer support to date, they even provided me a usb to reimage for free after I switched to a non-RAID config.

    With Dell you can always talk to someone but they have no power to actually do anything other than adding a discount. Sales support at Dell is absolutely terrible and their technical support once told me multple times that 100c is "normal" operating temperature.

    With Razer you can't talk to someone after you order and that frustrates a lot of people, in most cases those people are just antsy and having to wait 24 hours for an email response may be good for them. From a technical support standpoint I have not had any issues with the RBP and in the one case where I needed something they sent it out for free and I got it within a week.

    Again, these are my personal experiences and I can't speak to other issues or systems.. however the new Razer Blade is definitely on my Radar down the road. The RBP is very compact for a 17" and the performance is amazing, you should try one out for yourself!
     
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    To me the razer is the best looking and at the same time most inovative notebook on the market.*
    Still the cooling issues do trouble me: The 1070 in my clevo almost catches up with the RBP 1080?!
    I hope that the 2017 V2 model somewhat improved cooling - although I doubt it.
    Still a very attrctive piece of hardware.
    Best regards
    phila

    *Form factor / mechanical keyboard / aluminium housing / touchscreen etc.
     
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  4. shoespc

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    Spot on, to be honest I don't think it's nearly as big a performance hit as most people that don't own an RBP make it out to be. Running on an external 1440p display with 120fps @ 120hz in game this laptop is a beast and at 0.88" and 11" depth there is absolutely no competition. The 6700HQ never comes close to more than 50% utilization at peak so from a gaming perspective the need for more CPU is more for creative work than for gaming.

    As a real world example you can fit an RBP 17" in your lap on an economy flight, there is no way you could do that with an Alienware 17, MSI, Asus, etc... While in flight I was able to play Civilization with no fan noise (lowered fps limit to 20 because who needs fps in Civ anyway).

    The first slim smartphones had less performance than their larger counterparts and phones eventually got smaller until now that they are getting bigger/thinner. To say that it is impossible is just ignoring history and I definitely see Razer imrpoving the market by doing what noone else has done.

    Now for the next RBP we just need a 120hz 1440p panel option and it would be perfect!
     
  5. fflyAnml360

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    I think people who are considering RBP are not very price sensitive. We can debate for another 10 pages on value for money, but the people are ready for this price are unlikely to change their mind based on value for money.

    I'm looking at the RBP for work, since i'm not picking up the bill, I am less price sensitive. For work, something like the Alienware design will attract way too much attention in a meeting full of MacBooks. The Razer logo has a lot going on, but I can cover that with a decal to blend in with the MacBooks around me. So here I am, waiting like everyone else hoping RBP V2 will have better performance.
     
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    For the new MSI laptops they claim a 25% increase in processing power from the 6700HQ to the 7820HK, so I would expect around that for the RBP 2017.

    As for the pricing, noone looking for a laptop with a top-end GPU is expecting it to be cheap. If you only want to spent 1-2k for a laptop there are plenty of good options, if you want a 1080 in a compact form there is really only one option.
     
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    Decalrus will do a custom skin for the Razer and just ask them to not cut the logo out and you never see it once its on the laptop, I did this with both my 14's I had and worked great and looked great.
     
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  8. iunlock

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    That is a valid point purely based on the price point, however, in my opinion even paying roughly around the same amount for both machines, at the end of the day, even with AW having issues of their own (fair game), the end consumer is better off performance wise with the AW.

    Just to be clear, you're referring to the GPU temp yes? The GPU staying under 70C's is good for the given chassis, but is that at stock clocks? How does it do when overclocked?

    Would you be able to post some screen shots of hwinfo64 showing all the relevant info? That'd be great.

    Thanks.
     
  9. Pete Light

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    That's because it's likely to not be running full speed or be power throttling on a MUCH inferior CPU compared to the alienware. It's like comparing a Ferrari with a FIAT 2.0L engine in it vs a 6.0L V12 Mercedes SLK. Guess what, under full load the Mercedes burns more fuel and gets hotter...

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  10. Pete Light

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    You won't get it because of thermal or power throttling. Mark my words!



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    CPU and GPU are both at 70c, here is a video link using CAM FPS overlay. Starting at 2:53 you can see both CPU/GPU temps and Framerate, this is running on an external monitor @ 1440p/144hz.

     
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    Erm, is it just me or is the 6700HQ running at 2.6GHz in that run? I mean, naturally, it's bottlenecking the crap out of the 1080 (1070 Razer Edition) not to mention running at a reduced power envelope.
     
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    I understand, that a .88 inch notebook can not provide the same cooling than a much thicker notebook can.

    This point has been made clear by many and I guess nobody doubts that.

    Still I wonder: Is the RBP Lounge thread the only one where people can`t refrain from crossposting how strong their machines are?

    At least I have not seen the same thing over at the clevo threads, although those NB have their own special features*

    Best regards

    phila

    *Screen bleeding deluxe / uncontrolable fan noise / etc....
     
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    Anyone have experience with Acer laptops? Never owned one personally but for $1999 this one includes a gtx1080 and looks like by far the best deal out there right now for a gaming laptop under $2k.

    Acer Predator 17 GX-792-7448 17.3" Gaming Laptop Computer - Black; Intel Core i7-7700HQ Processor; NVIDIA GeForce GTX1080 8GB GDDR5X VR Ready; 16GB DDR4-2400 RAM; 256GB SSD + 1TB HDD
     
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    Indeed after the 500 dollars off, it is looking cheap, cheaper than a RB 14....
     
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    Acer is not a huge segment of the market but if that machine is solid it is definitely the best deal at $2000. Going to check one out today just to see it in person, not planning to buy anything else for at least a year :)
     
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    Yeah Acer is new to the game segment with this predator line, before they only had the Nitro, entry-level gaming laptop. I read that the CPU temps do get very hot, but basically in stress tests, otherwise fine...the GPU temps are fine, I think, at least on the 1070 version, but there was some throttling. However, there were a few bios updates that might of addressed the heating, throttling issues. Compared to your RBP, it will be a real desktop replacement, meaning best if not moved, as it is a lot heavier and thicker.
     
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    It's considered heavy at listed 10 pounds but on ownordidown it weighs out at 9.5 which is only a pound more than the RBP. The key for this one are the dimensions; 16.5 x 12.5 x 1.75 Not bad and the thermals look good from this YouTube review;
     
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    Hold on, I am going to sell my car and get back to you... ;)
     
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    Haha no way it sells.
     
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    From what I read on notebookcheck.de Acer did a decent job with the Predator. My problem is:

    - most gaming Notebooks looks like they have been designed for 13 year olds who got rich parents,
    - and not for grown ups that do not want to bust a meeting with their B52 like DTRthat has got "Dragon Slayer" written all across the lid (Hi Acer, Asus, MSI).

    Long stroy short: After I had a MSI GT72 (which performed really good) I would never ever again buy a thick notebook that looks like "bling, bling".

    "Clevo" are fine, but also a litte to conservative imho. "Alienware" is getting better in terms od design, but still somewhat "extraterestrial", "Razor" is over overachieving in some ways: Why not give us a blasting 1 inch notebook with great looks, many features and a gtx 1070 for about 3000 bucks?!

    Best regards

    phila

    P.S.: I am curious about the RBP 2017 as well!!!
     
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    With a 1440p panel at 120hz!!
     
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  25. Pete Light

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    Exactly!

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    Same seller has a 960pro for the low price of $1399!
     
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    Is the screen bezel on the RBP 17 as big/wide as those on the RBP 14?
     
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    I got a laugh out of the 146.00 shipping fee. he should just reverse the auction, blade price 146.55 shipping 8499.00 :vbthumbsup:
     
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    The bezel looks smaller but don't have a blade on hand to compare. It is a very nice bezel as the screen/bezel is all one piece and there is no plastic.
     
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    I just did some calculation, based on the length and width in the technical specifications, knowing the screen diagonal and aspect ratio, the RBP has bigger/wider bezel than RB 14.
     
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    Doesn't affect my viewing enjoyment in the least. Remember it also has a bigger/wider screen as well ;)
     
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    Naturally, you need to compensate for the thinness somehow else the internals will melt.
     
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    I understand, just wish there were better 18-19" displays so there is less bezel in the same outer dimension.
     
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    Hi RPB Owners! Depending on how the 7820HK performs in the V2 I am thinking about getting such a Notebook.

    Still I am pondering the follwoing questions:

    1.) How does the downscaled image (1080p) look while gaming?

    2.) Are you able to disable RAID 0 easily? I am not to fond of that feature (data security wise) and probably want one SSD as system partition only and the other one for programs/games. I especially think about upgrading one of the PCE ssds wit a bigger one.

    Thank you very much!

    Best reagards

    phila
     
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    Raid is very easy to change, get a usb recovery drive from Razer support, disable the raid, boot from usb and it automatically rebuilds.

    I mainly use an external monitor at 2k or the laptop screen at 4k but the scaling to 1080p works well.
     
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    Looks like they forgot to turn off gsync lol. The RBP 2016 scored around 11-12k with gsync on
     
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    In my opinion 1080 downscaled from 4k looks like **** on a native 4k screen. But maybe it's just cause I'm so used to how nice it looked at 4k. But when I look at native 1080 screens they look fine to me .
     
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    Sigh; I sadly sold my RBP and have an ASUS ROG G701vi-xs78k OC coming in on Friday. It was hard packing it up and sending it off but I needed to get another's portable powerhouse ASAP. On the bright side; just received email that the v2 will be available tmrw at 6pm PST. If anyone gets it let's me know how it is. Thanks for the fun time guys I'll miss you all all (except for the idiots who complain and waste post space on here; you know who you are). I'll still be sticking around
     
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    Razer Blade Pro Review - the $4,000 Gaming Laptop
    Published on Apr 21, 2017
    "Lisa Gade reviews the Razer Blade Pro v2, a high end 17” gaming laptop that’s clad in Razer’s signature matte black aluminum. This is a slim though not terribly light laptop (7.7 lb. / 3.49kg) whose looks are subdued compared to most gaming rigs. The 22.5mm thick Blade Pro runs Windows 10 on the Intel Core i7-6700HQ (an updated model is coming soon with the 7th gen overlockable Core i7-7820HK CPU), and it has the top of the line NVIDIA GTX 1080 8GB GDDR5X graphics card. The notebook has a 4K touch screen, 32 GB DDR4 RAM and PCIe NVMe SSDs. Can it game in 4K? We’ll show you in this video!

    The programmable Razer Chroma RGB backlit keyboard is standard and it’s a low profile mechanical keyboard. Killer WiFi and Ethernet are standard, as is a 99 WHr battery and a 250 watt charger. The more expensive configurations add more storage, but are otherwise identical."
     
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  40. don_svetlio

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    So the CPU ran @ 3.3GHz (33 multiplier listed) and 80-85*C? Is it just me or is that not ideal? I mean, that's slower than the 7700HQ. And OCing doesn't seem like a great idea with such temps.
     
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    The mobile tech review video is misleading. This is not a review of the updated 2017 "V2"


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    That's a clickbait video; when she showed benchmarks they were all 6700hq lol :(
     
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    Clickbait video. That's the v1 they're reviewing
     
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    Shameful clickbait Mobile Tech Review
     
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    Lisa Gade describes it in detail starting at 01:45, and mentions it's a V2 with a 6700HQ, and an updated one is coming out with a 7820HK.

    I also added the video title and description to the post, that also says the same:
    "...The 22.5mm thick Blade Pro runs Windows 10 on the Intel Core i7-6700HQ (an updated model is coming soon with the 7th gen overlockable Core i7-7820HK CPU)"

    Maybe there's 2 V2 models??

    Seems odd she'd get that wrong... @pdagal ?
     
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    Not typical of MTR, if it is wrong....

    Lisa, what's up? @pdagal
     
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    Still not a good review, the 7820 takes a complete different motherboard. They should never label this as v2 it simply is not.
     
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    I think the nomenclature is a challenge here. Technically, the 6700 2016 RBP is a V2 if you account for the previous switchblade RBP as the V1. V2 is not an official Razer label so we can't really blame her here.


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    Razer does use V2 as the official label for the kaby lake model. The product page's heading states V2.

    [​IMG]


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    Ahso! I stand corrected. She's got a misunderstanding then.


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