Razer Blade Pro 17" (1080 GPU/late 2016) Owner's Lounge

Wow really?! Yea it does sound like it's 180W....hhmmmmmm......tempting.....

I really would like to tackle the heat more than anything. That's what I'm after....

 

Not a good thing actually. Look at the gimped power draw during Unigen Heaven :

This is with a desktop 1080 with limited boost clock. (on a desktop)



and with stock OC BIOS :

 

Yea it's going to be a tall order to keep the GPU at >50C... That is a pretty major dip.

If Razer knew for this to be an issue, pretty obvious given the form factor, they should have just put in a 1070 at most.

Hmmm....beautiful laptop though. I'm really digging the track pad placement as that to me is way more ergonomically logical than having the pad on the bottom of the keyboard area. Nice thing is that your left hand will always stay put.

 

I think a firestrike score will say it all. Please post the combined score as well as the individual graphics and physics scores.

 

Screwed this video up like an id but still some more info

 

Make sure you set all power profiles for performance. Not balanced... and in nvidia control panel make sure it's set to only use dedicated gpu. Firestrike would be a great test and you should run Afterburner overlay so you can monitor on screen during tests. Cheers!


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Agreed. A Firestrike benchmark with temps would speak a 1000 words as to what's being throttled(if at all). Considering the 1060 version is throttled, I'm assuming that will be the case with this one as well - it's just a matter of to what extent.

 

Sorry guys i would love to help but i dont have firestrike i did make sure after the first video that everything was set to performance and the dedicated GPU

 

It's a free download

 

When i tested Heaven on 4k it did say i was using 100% GPU

 

You can get 3dmark for free here. firestrike is one of the tests.

http://www.futuremark.com/support/downloads

 

Numbers ma man. Like the screen shot I posted above.

 

thanks guys!

Will run firestrike tonight and take screenshot/ video of all the deets

 

Thanks! Please screenshot it so we can see the breakdown of the score. Also, peak CPU and GPU temps.

 

Any reason why I wouldn't be able to update Nvidia Drivers? keeps getting stopped through manual DL and doesn't show any new drivers through GFE

 

None that I know of. Unless something is wrong with the internet / browser / Nvidia servers.

 

thought I had this issue with the Razer Edge back in the day at first new drivers would not install

 

Thank you for running these.


@iunlock seems like it's either 180W or lower.

 

Let me know if you guys need anything else

 

Sure thing! thank you again for running these tests.
Feel free to hit me up if you need help with anything. I do have a Blade Pro that I sparingly use. Might be able to help if you have any questions!

 

unless you can figure out why Nvidia drivers wont install cant test BF1 right now!

 

Do this-

Download DDU.
Boot into safe mode , run DDU.
Once it restart you back into Windows , install the drivers. I would redownload them just in case.
Also try installing them without GFE. Unless you really need GFE.

 

Thanks for doing that Athenic!

Wow, what a terrible score... They really did everyone a disservice by putting a 1080 in there. The 1070 performs better than that. Heck, I got a better score with the 1070 inside the Razer Core and even that's with a performance hit.

 

could gsync play afactor?

 

No. Gysync would only help what you see on your monitor. The problem is with the graphics card being purposely underpowered. They're doing that so it won't burn up in flames. Your graphics score should be at least 20000.

 

Could be. Will you be able to run the tests again with Gsync and vsync disabled ?

 

doing it now

 

Actually yeah I guess that does make sense. Vsync evens out the framerate and I guess Gsync does the same in a sense. I didn't think it would be activated for Firestrike but it's probably enabled by default, huh?

 

I guess . I never use it. Tried it once. Ditched it after that. I don't quite play anything other than CSGO AND DOTA 2.

 

2nd run was much better yeilding 13305

 

Yeah, that's a lot better. It's still lower than a 1070 would score though.
See here: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9185309

It would have made it cost $300-400 less and I most likely would have bought it without question if they just put a 1070 in there. I don't know what their engineers are thinking...

 

i'm also concerned about the old drivers that are installed I cant updgrade to anything remotely new stuck on 369.56

 

Another request...I use external monitors/speakers. Under load how loud are those fans? How many Decibels?

 

Did the DDU way also not work ?
Some times GFE just causes issues. Or the drivers just need to installed fresh.

 

Using firestrike through the free download version makes the pc run all of the available benchmarks, you will obviously end up with weird scores (a 1060 shows down to 7.5k instead of 9.5k+).

Also,scores are based on fps and either gsync and vsync "lock" them for visual purposes (to have a steady ratio and no discrepancies inside of the frame itself), isn't it?

Best scores require some tweaking.

 

To be fair though, that's a desktop 1070 I think, and one of the top 3 overclocked scores. Here's a stock 1070 from a P650RS I had for a little while: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10731485 - his graphics score is 20% better than mine, though I do think it should be ~30-40% better. CPU score came in pretty close to my 14 inch Razer Blade with a 6700HQ.

That being said, I agree with you 1000%. With a 1070 and $400 less, I would have seriously considered this (even though for us lefties that trackpad placement is annoying as hell).

 

You should compare performance against a laptop with a 1070 - the Razer with 1080 isn't performing any better.

We've been expecting the thin and light 1080's to only perform as well as the 1070 model, due to poor power and thermal resources.

The Aorus was the first:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...0-13-9-15-6-17-3.795060/page-17#post-10386440

Now your Razer 1080 is performing under the numbers for the stock Aorus 1080.

We are still waiting for the AW 17 1080 and MSI 16L13 / Tornado F5 1080 results.

The problem seems to be the power supply is too small, the same size as the 1070 model.

The proper size for a 1080 would be a single 330w power supply. The SLI 1080's come with 2 x 330w power supplies, MSI GT83VR and Clevo P870DM3.

The single 1080 GT73VR comes with a 330w PSU:
https://us.msi.com/Laptop/GT73VR-TITAN-Pro-4K-6th-Gen-GTX-1080.html#hero-specification&sku_no=1737
AC Power Adaptor 330W

It's likely a design choice to reduce thermal output as the thin laptops can't handle the full 1080 power when hooked up to a 330w PSU.

You could check and see if Razer will support hooking up a 330w PSU.

BTW, what is the wattage rating on your new PSU?

Here are a couple of forums to watch:

*Official* nVidia GTX 10xx Series notebook discussion thread
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...scussion-thread.794965/page-317#post-10385050

The Official MSI 16L13 (Eurocom Tornado F5) Owners and Discussions Lounge
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...scussions-lounge.797128/page-85#post-10386441

 

There's no 1070 razer pc.

 

That's what I thought was advertised at release, 1080 only.

But, it's performing not much better than a 1070.

I guess that makes sense, as why have a 1070 model when the 1080 is performing at 1070 levels.

Aorus 1070 performs within 2% of the Aorus 1080, check the links, read around in those threads too.

Watch the 2 video reviews, both ran 3dmark Fire Strike 1.1, on the Aorus 1070 and 1080, and the Razer 1080 is performing slower - all at stock settings.

 

As expected bro This new Razer gaming JokeBook comes with a compact 250w power adapter http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-systems/razer-blade-pro
It does not help to put in the low entry fully locked down 6700Hq to reduce the power consumption. A completely destroyed model!! First, the use of a weak 6700Hq. In addition, also put a too weak PSU in the glossy box from Razer.

 

It is just pretty much impossible to have a 1080 in that frame regarding thermals and with a 200-something'ish watt PSU.

Take a look at the fans in that system. It horribly small.

Also the sheer arrogance of the founder Min is disgusting, saying the smallest only comparable machine would be a ITX based desktop system. Completely ignoring all other models on the market or announced at that time (Aorus, Alienware, Clevo thinner laptops and thicker Clevo, MSI, Asus laptops). It is just flat out lying what he did. In the end he also asks near 4000usd for this laptop with just 1 YEAR warranty.

 

Might be OC but it's definitely a laptop. I chose a score with the same CPU. Even though it's OCed, it's a 1070 laptop that is far outperforming a 1080.

 

I'm not sure what you mean by the free version generates weird scores. I use it on the GS73 and get a stock score of 9500.

I agree that there's room for tweaking, but it'll take a LOT of it to get that score where it should be for it to be called a legitimate 1080. Otherwise they're just ripping their customers off. There's still room for overclocking based off those temps but I think it's more of a matter that the GPU isn't fully powered. The CPU looks to be the same way because the physics score is a little low. Throttlestop + GPU OC could probably fix some of it but then you might run into issues with the PSU not being able to supply the necessary power. Considering how notoriously hot Razer's PSUs already get, I'd be hesitant to even try it even for short term use.

 

My Firestrike score on my ITX 1080 build is about 19000. I can't believe he would choose that comparison over comparing with another laptop because it's completely apples and oranges at that point...

 

Here you can hear a part of Min sort of saying they are the first with the b

Here you can hear a part of Min sort of saying they are the first with these type laptop specs & best thermal engineers etc. Even saying their thermals are light years ahead....The retarded thing is that no Razer laptop is out there with decent thermals apart from the Stealth without a descrete GPU.

At 14minutess


And here he has the audacity to claim there are no laptop swith this performance on the market and that the closest thing is an ITX PC.

At 15minutes

An ITX PC with a 1080GTX and a 6700K completely smokes this machine for only 1/3 of the price.

 

Yeah I hated the way he went about this announcement like he was channeling Steve Jobs or something.... As to why I called him Min Jobs.... But hey let's be honest here Min is only comparing his laptop to one other competitior and that's Apple. Why? I have no idea and over the long haul I'm not sure of the Razer Fan Base would actually want that....

(Read his Facebook Posts, they're all charged at Apple) It's also very weird if you've read my other posts where he talks about how other gaming companies copy Razer's design while pretty sure he copies his designs from Apple and just put's in gaming components. Oye the Irony....

 

I think he is really aiming it at the likes of msi and alienware. in the end he starts to sound childish. but yeah he is quite succesful with his company so i dont think he will ever care about what the laptop scene thinks of him. he did bring this company all the way from around 1998 with their first razer boomslang mouse all the way to this.

 

What scares me is that the fundamentals of a good company or good laptop company are companies that do great in engineering and design. My fear is that Razer has been focused alot lately on marketing. while marketing is important and is great to get known and your product out there and to integrate within the community you don't want to lose sight of the actual design and building of said product. This last year could easily be argued that Razer has focused much more on marketing then the likes of Alienware/Dell and that is quite a statement. I mean you might wanna pause and think about that for a second lol....