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Nah it is mor elike, out of the box they have a low failure rate, but that doesnt say anything about long term reliability and that is where it goes wrong.
See thats the problem the razer forum is full of fan boys trying to justify the **** material in razer.....razer is a copy of apple run by immature hipster teenagers who have no customer service skills....the product itself wont last for long itself its full of faults...thanks louis...anyone who doesn't have problem is probs lying
I get downvoted on reddit for calling ******** on anyone who argues that Razer products are perfect, particularly around fan noise on the RB2016 - It's obvious people became blind to these flaws (since they spent so much money on a Razer system and need to justify to themselves that they made the right purchase decision)
exactly, they spend money on the product therefore justify them self that the razer is perfect because inside they know customer service is crap and the stress they go through to return iton the forums they are finding fixes for the laptop themselves looool....just go on the forum and the people commenting are blind as hell...poor guys with faulty laptop.... razer wont last
Still using Alienware m17xR4 2012 model..... not perfect, but when I replace it, wont be with Razer....
Funny thing "Linus" is using Blade 14 as a "daily driver" and he purchased a ton of them for his employees as gifts...
now we know how much serious they are on all of the YT channels.... where everything is so good to buy.... and with almost no cons against the product....
Not to curb the warranted Razer bashing going on in this thread - but the RB2016 is a good machine with niggling flaws and wank quality control (not "perfect" as advertised) but provided you get a model that's 100% and doesn't have coil whine / overheating / display issues you could do a lot worse
HIDevolution seems to offer AW 17 R4 with GTX 1080 again, probably means that AW/DELL must have fixed almost all the issue but not sure about QHD screen panels if there are still screen banding.
In all honesty and you know I do not consider the RBP2016 a good laptop. Civ is not a good benchmark. it doesnt say anything about the graphics performance and the optimizations are abysmal in that game.
I don't play Civ 6 but had to load it up on the RBP and test for myself. Not sure where they got 50fps, at 1920x1080 I average 163 fps and at 3840x2160 I average about 110 fps.
Or build yourself a desktop with 1080Ti and purchase a cheap $149
TURD for portability. Will cost around half the price. Even cheaper, depends on what MB, ram, psu and chassis you choose.
I'm really curious if the Razer CEO truly believes that there are still enough stupid/gullible/non tech savvy people in the world to fund his enterprise and do his bidding ultimately relieving him from actually hiring qualified/knowledgable engineers that know how things actually work?
This is a legit 100% straight up question. Given his last burst about how he's being bullied and stating that quality/build is not a concern to them kinda said a lot.
There's a prevailing audience that I refer to as "Razercucks" who are so heavily bought into their brand and see the CEO as some sort of Messiah they'll unfortunately always have someone to sell to - It's also blatantly obvious he's surrounded himself with so many "yes-men" that the truth of the matter, that their products are poorly put together and their QS is poorly skilled has escaped him
A cursory glance at a random min/razer facebook post reveals the extent of gushing fanboyism heaped on the likes of stupid/impractical concepts like the valerie
There absolutely are, and they have a lot of money to spend so there will always be someone to market to them. If not Razer then someone else will step up and do it.
Wow these people really have a mad hard-on for Razer. Kind of pathetic really. If you do not like the company, fine, but really to waste your time bashing them paints you as a bitter person in my book. I have had good experiences with Razer products an am more than pleased with my RBP. I get some of the very few people that have had bad experiences with a Razer product, nature of the industry. Same for Alienware, ASUS, ACER, Apple etc. But to resort to name calling of those of us who enjoy their products, well that is really childish and classless, IMO.
Just my two cents, but not liking a company or its products is certainly one thing. But this...
If a CEO is acting like that, it's a bit of a worrying sign. I mean, I've had awful experiences with Asus and Toshiba products in the past, but at least their higher-ups act somewhat rational.
To be fair, complaining about a product will result in pressure for a company to provide better services and products in the long run. The anger is not unwarranted considering Razer has banned people within their forums for voicing their opinion and also produced a $4000+ product with questionable customer service. In most companies whether its Alienware, MSi, Apple, etc, this premium price comes with a high level of customer service which makes it by definition an industry standard which Razer unfortunately does not provide.
Through the use of heavy marketing, Razer has also created a cult like culture with a strong vocal minority with extremist/religious view supporting the company (i.e. People tattoo the razer logo and razer promotes this behavior as well) so I guess that's where all the name calling is pointing towards
Just because some people have had good experiences doesn't necessarily mean they either 1) use them the way they were meant to be or 2) didn't run into anything else. Having a good experience doesn't shield others from having bad ones especially when a trend continuously picks up from a company that explicity put out that quality is not a concern and marketing is where they're trying to go because "they're the best"
Also since you're coming in to share your feedback, I'd highly welcome to read the thread first before jumping to assumptions, since 1) we're breaking down the issues and cover ups the company has publicly been doing and trying their hardest to push away from the important facts.
2) The issues users are having even attempting to get support while either being banned for asking questions ( like a concerned tech would )
3) trying to contact support and getting shunned.
As far as people that enjoy the products noone called anyone names, which again I invite you to actually read through the thread first, the ones that were called out were those that swore by it despite the issues and facts presented in front of them to the point they would agree that its fine that the company gives out crap, the names were at the company for misleading their customers with false advertising and information as well as poor engineering and avoiding it as much as possible when questioned.
Coming into a thread and responding based off the title and a few posts is really childish and classless, IMO.
You may have quoted my post, maybe you even read it but from your comments clearly you did not comprehend it. And yes their was inappropriate name calling and I have read this thread which seemed to have degenerated into "mud slinging" on the last two pages.
Fun facts and humor to help alleviate the stress from so many people getting screwed over and lied to as well as conned into buying machines that run barely as good as those that are at half the price doesn't count as mud slinging in my book. However so far you seem to only be looking for an issue with the thread and ignoring the underlying issue at hand. Is there any reason for this ? It would be great to hear.
We're comprehending you here, we're simply asking you to take a few minutes to comprehend what this thread is talking about, vs focusing on "the last 2 pages of stuff you felt you needed to associate your identity to" as Mobius spelled out that you shouldn't lower yourself to that level.
You do realize that this means "really really love Razer", right? Are you calling yourself pathetic?
I don't think you understand what anyone here is doing if this is your statement. The point about calling out terrible:
Business practices
Business ethics
Product design
Quality control
Quality assurance/post-sale service
Attitude of the CEO
is to HELP people who would be otherwise coaxed into purchasing awful machines from an awful company.
Do you think we're here to just rag on them uselessly in a vacuum? That's what private chats are for. The posts here have a purpose, that you seem absolutely incapable of understanding.
Good for you. That doesn't mean the product is:
Perfect
Designed properly
Will do the same for everyone else
Will have great support for everyone else
And it's not "very few people". A large amount of people have had issues, and many of the ones who DON'T claim to have issues simply don't even notice that they have them. I'm not saying that 100% of products are broken/not working, but I guarantee you it isn't "very few". As for the other kinds of notebooks... those companies often make something resembling a decent notebook in their lines. To that effect we recommend against their bad notebooks, in the proper parts of the site. This is Razer's sub-forum, not ASUS'. We're not going to come HERE to bash ASUS for crap like their GL502VS.
Now I didn't call anybody names, but if people are going to come here and look at the facts and say "well I disagree, so you all are wrong" or something to that effect, FAR LESS try to tell other impressionable people that nothing is wrong, then said people are pretty much going to get attacked. That's what's really childish... it's like someone insisting that an i3 is better than an i7 because it works for them, therefore everyone saying it isn't fine is clearly lying, and trying to convince people otherwise. Except that the i3 in question costs more than the i7. Does that make sense? No? You're doing the same thing.
It's sad to see the effects of such a strong cult following to where people are blinded by certain facts that can not be argued.
To keep it simple, paying $4000 for a 6700HQ machine is not very wise in so many ways. To even offer that cpu in a $4K machine is IMO an insult. If someone has the dosh to drop 4K on a Pentium 6700HQ, then what will it hurt to drop another 4K for a Ryzen 7 1800X transplant? All you have to do is sand down the pins on the bottom of the chip and send it off to Apple to get the soldering done. But, Apple might refuse to service it once they realize that it is a knock off of their own product.
100% agree, buddy. Even Apple offers a 6820HQ/6920HQ in their 4k+ machine. That is how bad the Razer Blade Pro is in terms of CPU value. And the charts
@Papusan posted, as well as other ones show that the 1080 in the RBP is within a few percent of a 1070, which shows how bad it is in terms of GPU value. If anyone can justify buying Intel's lowest end i7, a heavily gimped 1080 that performs like a 1070 and packing both in a poorly designed laptop with crap support, then they are free to buy the bloody thing and suffer with it.
That is fair. I am going by experience, mine, in all the Razer products that I have owned over the years. Sure I have had a mouse crap out earlier than maybe it should have but overall I have had excellent experiences with their wonderful products which includes owning two Razer Blades. I think the number of people who have had bad experiences is few and in line with industry standards, but like everything else on the internet is blown way out of proportion. Though I do feel bad for the few who have indeed had bad experiences and I do feel fortunate that so far that does not include me.
People are so hung up on the price that they never give the Blades a fair chance. I never look at the rating on a computer for price to value as that is so subjective as to not even be relevant in my opinion. Same for any product sold as it comes down to disposable income for the buyer. If you call those who purchase Razer products a cult than you should also include Dell and Apple buyers as well, which makes the comment altogether silly.
Or overheating SSDs - how they managed that is beyond me. Like, you have to purposefully try to be bad to be this bad. Sorry but the designs on the Blades are simply not good. If they were 1200$ for the 14' and 2000$ for the 17' - I could overlook a lot of it in favour of size but at the ludicrous prices they are expecting consumers to pay, they have no excuse for offering designs worse than machines that cost half as much.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
(no offence intended)
Or should we say a little less?
