Razer blade 15 2021 Rtx 3000

I had an issue with my first pair of Blackshark V2 Pro headphones. After the typical 1-2 weeks of back and forth (give them a pass due to pandemic) with support where I had to go through the usual support script rounds of telling them it wasn't my system it was the headphones, they payed for shipping me a new pair and I shipped them back the old ones. No charges.

And back when I had my 2014 Blade 14 (870M), they shipped me a USB key to reinstall the OS no questions asked no charge.

I've had decent experience with their support.

 

Echoing this - I've had a similar experience. I did have to request it twice since apparently the first one 'got lost'.

 

I guess it all depends on your luck. As I said earlier, comparatively speaking, Alienware support was just far more reliable for me during the 5 years I had one compared to Razer during the 9 months I had the blade advanced. I just didn’t feel confident in their support especially because I had to be with a non working laptop for almost 4 weeks. I just like the option of on site support much more than shipping the laptop in a prepaid box where so many things can go wrong.

Besides, in my case, I had to send it back twice since first time around, they didn’t even resolve the issue and sent it back. When a company doesn’t sell extended warranty (at least where I live), that’s a huge red flag for me.

 

Yeah. At the premium prices they charge for their hardware I would expect their support to make me feel good about spending that extra money. A CNC aluminum chassis from a single block of aluminum isn't good enough to warrant it. The support experience will literally make or break the word of mouth if the failure rate is high enough.

I see people bagging practically every manufacturer though, I think Razer gets a little bit extra vitriol from some circles just because of the higher prices and they put themselves out there a little as a target with the marketing messages they use and perception of greatness they attempt to portray. But so far I've been happy with everything I've bought from them. I was beginning to get a little apprehensive with the amount of time it was taking to get to the inevitable exchange on the headphones but they apologized for the delay and payed for the next day FedEx both ways to get me a replacement pair (works great). I can't ask for much more.

And because that experience was good, I am here telling people about it. If more companies acted that way when their stuff needed repair/replacement they would have more people instilling confidence that if you're unlucky to get a bum unit they'll have your back. All it takes is for them to give the minimum of shizz about the customer.

 

Blade 15 3070 vs Aorus, how tiny blade battery size compared to Aorus, 2 hours plus LoL, I like his expression when saying that. And heck why they put 10750, better new ultrabook cpu h35 for more efficient power. So it’s maxq on base model, was hoping he check the tgp, but I understand that.

So 1440p 3070 maxq performance on games.

Compared to 3070 maxP mobile 115 watt on strix with fancy AMD 5900HX is actually on gaming performance the difference isn’t that much or maybe even slightly better like on SoTR. Source

 

Stupid question but i'm guessing Razer's offerings are locked to 80-100w as usual?


edit: also yeesh that Matt Moniz video is quite damning.

RIP Razer this year I guess.

 

Not sure until someone shows HWinfo64 screenshot, but apparently cpu still throttled lower compared to other brands like before, though in some circumstances it might be a good point for gpu wattage boost, since dynamic boost bump gpu tdp when cpu workload is on lower tdp. And considering other similar thin light laptops like Eluktronics mag has similar 230 watt ac adapter and can run higher tgp maxP even with their Elektroboost, that’s not impossible using higher maxP variant, unless there’s problems with cooling room, Eluktronics has vents everywhere and blade literally only one main exhaust under the lid.

 

Dragging this thread up from the shallows a bit, but this is one of the reasons I'm looking at Alienware to replace my current Blade Pro 17. I've had two Blade 14s (970m and 1060m), three Blade 15 Advanced (first one had stuck pixels, replaced at the Microsoft store). My second one had the on-board microphone and webcam die 6 months in, and it took Razer over a month to replace it on me, and involved shipping it back to Razer, waiting for them to diagnose it, telling me the parts were on-order, and then after 4 weeks telling me they don't have any spare parts and instead offered me a refurbished machine. So I took the refurb, sold it and replaced it with the Blade Pro 17. My first Blade Pro 17 had stuck pixels, so again I swapped it at the Microsoft store, and this unit just needed it's battery swapped (spicy pillow). My tech support case with Razer to replace the battery is still open, and they haven't responded to the ticket in over 4 weeks. So I actually ordered my own replacement battery from Aliexpress and swapped it myself. And now that I summarize all of that to myself, I think that's pushing me away from upgrading my Blade Pro 17 with the new RTX 3000 series Blade 15 Advanced, and instead I'll go with Alienware and their on-site support model. I love Razer products, but I think I'm done. Lots of companies have flaky products on occasion (just had my Logitech G903 Hero develop the dreaded Double-Click issue, and it's only 6 months old), but Razer support has not been great in my experience.


Patrick

 

Razer is widely known to have the worst support out of any laptop company.

The blade's cooling design is such a waste of a vapour chamber. The whole point of using a vapour chamber is to spread out the heat over a larger area and razer uses it like a heatpipe. Theres so much unrealised potential.

 

Yes according Reddit they support is suck, but personally I had no issue with them back in 2018 had support experience for diagnosis my 2017 14 before I sold it it was like a week and off from laptop and they clean the laptop and exchange the fans, sent off Friday and back to my door next Friday. Maybe experiences is vary though but last year they won again best laptop support 2020 I think previous year as well which’s quite curious to me seeing what Poeple on Reddit complaining.
https://www.google.de/amp/s/www.laptopmag.com/amp/articles/razer-tech-support
About vapor chamber it’s not quite right, yes I mentioned it has only one exhaust compared to other that bottleneck the cooling system but if you’re maximizing the cooling like using max fans and increase the bottom areas you’ll see nice thermal improvement even with unlocked power limitation, and it’s also maybe because intel cpu that runs hot, it’s hard to dissipate well considering it shares also heat with nvidia gpu, if looking on the stealth and book 13, the later one is using vapor chamber and cooling performance is great made it batter than other ultrabook with similar cpu like XPS 13 etc, the stealth itself even thou with 15 watt cpu and 35 watt dgpu, it is crazy cool like averaging 60ish gaming temperature with peaks to 70. And those are huge improvement compared to previous models, had both stealth and 14 so I’m quite satisfied with cooling improvement.

 

For those who understand Chinese, blade 15 advanced Qhd g sync 3070 maxq laptop I think first review out there. Apparently on SoTR it performs better than base that Matthew moniz (sorry if I called wrongly) on same qhd setting. It’s apparently 95 watt tdp, but apparently screen brightness isn’t great under 300 nits, if I read that kanji right LoL.

 

Sure wish I could understand what they're saying :-(

 

Thanks for that vid. I have my first comparison between the two laptops I'm considering (this and the G15). I really hoped the new blade would have an AMD option, but wondered if I'd really notice the difference in my use cases.

 

I like g14 from its performance on small from factor, but g15, honestly it looks like Blade 15 copy without webcam to me, and I heard they’re risky for LM leaks correct me if I’m wrong since some users apparently mentioned this. AMD CPUs is great but on gaming intel still ahead I saw, on battery life maybe it’s better but I don’t really care windows laptops battery life it is often bugged by softwares and drivers especially on this optimus laptops.

 

I'll join the thread here - have a 15 Advanced 3070 QHD pre-ordered. I put the pre-order in Jan, right now says delivery by 19 March. I should be fairly early in line to get this. I doubt I'll keep it - but I'm tempted. Currently use a desktop build with an apparently very valuable 2060S in our stupid climate. Also have a Macbook Air M1 loaded to the gills - figure I might be able to consolidate into a single machine, but it's hard since I love the MBA and I have struggled with gaming laptops in the past due to fan noise. However - I get it's the price of entry and I've seen that the advanced model can at least shave about 2-3 dBA off of most peer gaming laptops for fans, which is half power, so I wonder if I will be ok with it? My mini-ITX desktop can actually peg at 46dBA (much lower frequency output though). Anyways - my silent M1 machine is just so nice and usable as a portable powerhouse machine, but it's obviously no gaming device. Does Razer still use the old-fashioned hybrid sleep or hibernation on their machines? After using both Surface Laptop and this M1 - instant on, with little to no loss in battery % even over long periods is incredible. I'm assuming I go back to the long slow resume from hibernation with the Razer blade?

A bit of ramble, just joining the fray.

 

I wanted to ask - has anyone seen any reviews of the new "advanced optimus" feature in any other laptop? Seems pretty nice and perhaps game-changing this gen? Sure these weird spec RTX GPUs and their variable wattage ("up to" 95W on the Blade) - aren't the same leap that desktop class RTX 30XX are - but some of these features do have my attention if they work well in the laptop space.

1) Advanced optimus - no need for "mux" anymore- just dynamically switches without a reboot? I haven't seen any review yet - seems tied to specific QHD panels? All current advice is to get a MUX switch enabled laptop this gen, but with adv optimus, seems obsolete in order to get the best of all worlds? You get native framebuffer to display and G-Sync, and battery life of iGPU when doing normal desktop tasks?
2) Whisper mode - admittedly - I'd like to play some older games with 60+ FPS without the roaring fans - although admittedly it's hard to walk away from max frames. Has anyone tested this yet to see if it works better than before? I know GEFORCE Experience managed this before, and it wasn't really used that much since it's kinda the antithesis of most gamer's desires. But let's be real, some games can played at 60+ FPS without 55 dBA fans.

Updating this - looking at this

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/gaming-laptops/

Seems that Advanced Optimus and DLSS are the best features out of this gen, with Whisper Mode 2.0 (at least for me) in third place. Things like "resiable BAR" and the Dynamic Boost should be listed under "additional features" as they are more technical than the other features. Trying to sort through marketing speak from things that could actually really be nice upgrades (to me) is always tough. Curious of any experience with Whisper Mode 2.0 and Advanced Optimus. Right now everyone is praising MUX

 

Ordered a Blade 15 Advanced QHD 240hz RTX 3080 due to arrive next week. This is UK, wish it had secondary key backlighting but let’s see how it fairs.

 

@smugpanda - Hey, welcome to the thread. Just saw your comments since I only drop by every now and then. I can comment a little on some of your points.

First up for your MUX switch, there was some discussion here about the "reboot or not" when changing GPU modes, but I still feel like the answer isn't clear for the blade 15 advanced model w/ QHD since it seems unique like you've mentioned.
https://insider.razer.com/index.php...ies-still-the-best-gaming-laptop.68684/page-4


Your other points about fan noise and performance compromises align with how I like things also. With that in mind, I would say that even if it does require a reboot, I'm not overly concerned and I think you actually may not be either. Right now I have my current Blade undervolted, Turbo mode turned off, frame limited to 60 FPS (or sometimes just via VSync for certain titles) and these adjustments keep the machine quiet, but also more importantly -- consistent. I can tolerate some fan noise, but I cannot tolerate sudden spikes up/down/up/down which is what happens the more wildly you allow the framerate to span, and if you have turbo mode enabled as it is by default in the BIOS.

One more idea that might help you is you can also modify your behaviors to align with the computer. Right now on my Blade, I notice if I do not have my HDMI monitor hooked up before I turn the computer on, I get lower framerates (25% worse) than if I boot the machine with it already connected. So... if you are going to turn your machine on with the intent to play the latest AAA title, plugging in to your monitor will directly connect you to the GPU anyway, thus avoiding the "mux switch / reboot" problem automatically. So then you can just leave the machine in Optimus mode since when not plugged into an external monitor you'll mostly be on the go.... want better battery, be around others, and thus want the fans quieter anyway?

You probably see what I mean. This is the worst case scenario, if the new RB 15 QHD Advanced doesn't do something better than previous generations, but it's still livable with behaviors much like I'm already used to (especially since I value battery on the go, and quiet fans like you.)

Hope this helps.

 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Razer...-GeForce-RTX-3060-Holds-Up-Well.527245.0.html

Good review as always from notebookcheck. New take-away from this one for me was the mention that they have confirmed resizable bar is an included feature by Razer this gen, which I've not yet specifically seen elsewhere.

Not to get too excited though since a few videos I watched last week on non-Razer models, showed resizable bar and dynamic boost really aren't game-changers for performance gains... at least not yet.

 

Sweet, qhd with g sync is way to go me too on next upgrade. About function keys don’t hope it too much, I think I saw pro 17 2021 UK it’s still not backlighted. Only US version, I might be wrong though. Regardless happy to hear yout impressions and the benchmarks. They still doesn’t have color option even in home country (LoL), quite bored with black laptops, maybe I’ll just take mercury Razer book for work.

Yes it’s suck when you’ve the capable gpu but doesn’t have that feature. Apparently need motherboard bios update beside nvidia one and on some PC it bumps the performance around 10% on capable titles.

 

I guess I expect it to do a few things better than what I've seen in prior gens (of all gaming laptops):

• MUX performance without reboot (+15-20% boost over Optimus?)
• QHD - duh
• Two M.2 SSD slots
• For the advanced model, be about half as loud as the base model or most other laptops out there (-3 dBA on the fans)

In other news, I got the Razer today - I haven't fired it up. I'm on the fence about it overall - not sure I want to break the shrink wrap. I currently adore my MacBook Air M1 for everything else in computer-life besides gaming. On the other hand - SHINY NEW LAPTOP.

What say ye forums?

 

Ok I cracked open the box.

First impression - wow - what a terrible start - it was just spinning for about 5 minutes on "getting things ready" - then it reboot like 4 times. Finally got through the awful windows startup routine (MS, why can't you make this look better already - it's so boring).

Second impression - what the heck!? I didn't know Razer's keyboard caps were so tiny! They look to be 70% smaller than my MacBook keycaps? I have big hands, I think this is a no go for me - I'm fumbling all over. Plus, who puts their secondary symbols BELOW the key - how counter-intuitive to how the brain works with shift being "up". While I know how to type - this still throws me off when I glance at them.

Third - fans - spinning up and down - of course, I should expect this on a fresh boot, but after I get blazing performance in everyday tasks on my MacBook Air - hard to adjust to this.

Fourth - the display is currently locked to 60hz - I don't get this at all? It has a huge "240Hz" sticker at the top - but stuck at 60? I'll keep digging on this oddity.

Ok, a few positive impressions after that rant - screen actually is nice and sharp and colorful. It is also VERY bright - I would say approaching 400nits? I compared it side by side with my MacBook Air, and the Blade's screen seemed more punchy, vivid, and bright. So good news there?

I'm downloading Cyberpunk to really stress the 3070 - I have pretty much every game under the sun, so if any requests, let me know.

 

shadow of the tomb raider max (no dlss/rt), Metro exodus rtx preset, horizon zero dawn maxed with OC and without OC please

 

I've got Metro Exodus and SoTR, will get to downloading.

Having to take a long time - even transferring games from my desktop.

First off - not sure what's up with display - maybe need to really update before testing. I can't get anything other than 60hz in game or on desktop - no 240Hz at all (can easily feel it in game too). I don't even know how I'm supposed to update a Razer - just use windows update??

I ran SoTR, Destiny 2 so far - kept fans at balanced/auto (tell me if wrong)

SoTR at requested setting (highest, 1440P, no RTX or DLSS, no vsync) - scored 58 FPS

My desktop 2060 Super and 9700K scores - 72FPS at the exact same settings - so this seems really poor for Razer?

 

Yeah I think you are right, it is probably locked to 60Hz and that's why you are only seeing 58FPS.

This is some of the stuff we were talking about earlier -- those guys in the other thread were discussing it as well, but I don't know what exactly would be the case for you. Here are some things to try, they each would have pros/cons:

• Razer Synapse - Look for a setting in here for something like this. (The one guy said it did not require rebooting in the other thread, but a Razer support person said it did)
  
  
  
• Nvidia Control Panel - If you do not see something under Synapse (I'm seeing complaints in the thread I linked) then look in the Nvidia Control Panel here for a "dGPU" option, or turning off Optimus:
  
  
  
• USB-C to Display Port High Refresh External Monitor: Gets you to the dGPU on-demand by plugging in, no software switching & keeps your system battery saving & optimus while on the go.
  
• HDMI? Unknown -- you have to test.
• BIOS: Look in here and you should see an option to permanently switch to dGPU (Removes software from the equation, but downside, you will always have poor battery life if unplugged. Only good if it's rare/never you care about battery life unplugged.)

In all of the cases above, make sure you right click on the Windows desktop > go to display > scroll to the bottom > advanced display settings > set your refresh rate to as high as your built in display, or monitor can go. (I think most fullscreen games won't care, but this is how you get the desktop getting smoother like you asked about).

 

Thanks, forgot to ask you to run all benches at 1080p tho haha.

 

Synapse has very few options available to me that I can see. I'm pretty tech savvy, although unfamiliar with Razer. There is no option in Synapse for optimus/dgpu, etc. In windows adv display adapter settings, it only lets me set 60hz. In synapse there is a refresh rate setting under performance, but it only lets me pick 60hz. Yes I could hook up to my external display - but what on earth. This thing came advertised as 240hz display - huge sticker - and yet, it provides NONE of that out of the box? That's a fundamental problem in my book. Combined with this tiny keyboard - it's going back more than likely. The whole point of paying for the advanced model here was GSYNC (don't even see that option in geforce control panel), 240hz, auto-mux (adv optimus). This is ridiculous of Razer if this problem is widespread.

I'll add that there are 3 options under Nvidia Control Panel - auto/optimus/dGPU.

 

Maybe the MUX is only available on models with 300+ Hz displays or the 4K/120 Blade Pro.

 

That's gotta be it. Pick dGPU there, and then see if you get refresh options increased beyond 60Hz. I bet Razer (or at least they better) are going to add this to Synapse in a future update if it's not there. That'd be really hard for anyone to have to go through to switch.

EDIT: And remember, after you switch to dGPU in the Nvidia Control Panel, if you don't have an increased display option to 240Hz, reboot your machine then check again, since we don't know how this new laptop works.

EDIT2: On your other comment- Right, I would not expect GSYNC to work either until you are switched over to dGPU. That feature also requires being directly connected to the Nvidia GPU to function. Check for GSYNC as well and report back (after hopefully you've 'found' the 240Hz option).

 

I'll do dgpu this afternoon. But igpu should be able to drive 240 without the switch. Plus this thing has advanced Optimus. Which is supposed to have an auto mux in it. Not requiring all this tweaking.

So in Nvidia CC - I can switch from auto to Optimus to dGPU - when I switched to dGPU - I could enable 240hz. Also G-Sync was enabled.

I tested SoTR - got 62 FPS score now on the same settings. Downloading some more titles

Is this what was meant by advanced Optimus? That you still have to manually toggle, but doesn't require a reboot? Seems weird it would be buried in Nvidia CC though, that's not readily apparent.

Only other comment I have is that this laptop is much quieter under load than prior gaming laptops I've owned (MSI GS65, and Alienware M15 R1 and R2).

 

Metro Exodus, RTX Extreme Preset 1440P - 37.76 Average, Min 22.26

RTX Extreme Preset 1080P - 50.96, Min 23.78

I adjusted the Synapse profile up to HIGH CPU and HIGH GPU "custom" config - fans much louder here, but not awful.

 

The 60hz issue is an unfortunate side effect of Advanced Optimus. To get 240hz in Windows you have to configure the system to dGPU only.

 

So you are saying that, with regular optimus, you can get battery savings and drive a display at high refresh - but dependent on manufacturer either get a mux that requires reboot - or no mux at all.

OR

With advanced optimus, you can switch without a reboot, but you are stuck (if you want battery life) with 60hz while on battery?

 

Yeah that would be a bummer.

If you have Windows desktop in 60Hz-Optimus, does the laptop then auto switch to 240hz+gsync when you run a game in full screen mode? Make sure it's an older game you can run easily over 60FPS so you can tell if it's working...

That's the only way this makes sense to me, so you're not "mixing around" all the time!

 

It comes by default, in Nvidia Control Center set to "auto" as far as GPU choice (not Optimus) - but while it actually clearly uses the 3070 GPU during the few games I tested, it was not switching into non-max mode. I can clearly see frames above the refresh rate - for example, In Destiny 2 - I was averaging about 70-90 FPS at max settings 1440P - but the display was ONLY working at 60hz (just like any other computer without VSYNC, but limited by refresh rate of the display).

When I choose Optimus - it was about the same as using "auto" - it was only when selecting dGPU that it clearly shifted modes to be directly connected to the Nvidia GPU inside - as the Nvidia control panel suddenly presented all the options that I see on my desktop PC (I.e., like GSYNC, resolution etc). Maybe I can do a screen recording. When this is complete - I get 240Hz and everything runs incredibly smooth. However, I'm sure if I ran it like this in battery mode, it would...suck for battery life.

It's currently not auto-switching - and also, I feel like the intel GPU should still be able to give me 120hz at a min? My 8 year old Intel NUC with a 6th gen i3 can drive a 1080P/120Hz display - I only assume that intel GPU on a 2021 chipset could drive QHD/120? I mean, what does the integrated GPU do on "non advanced" Optimus powered laptops?

This feels like one step forward, one step back kinda situation?

 

The latter. Look at reviews of the handful of other Advanced Optimus laptops. All mention this same issue. What I don’t know is if you set nvidia control panel to Optimus (not auto or dGPU) what happens then? Does it work like traditional Optimus, meaning you get full refresh rate in Windows and games but lose gsync?

 

I should add that since this is a software toggle - I see no reason why they can't get this working automagically when you launch a game? If so, that would be nice so I don't have to manually toggle it to get the boost of being directly connected, and also enjoy G-SYNC.

The only issue would be if when in Optimus mode I can actually get the benefit of driving the display at higher refresh but still get battery saving by being driven by the intel GPU?

 

I honestly haven't seen other advanced Optimus laptop reviews yet. I'm only aware of this Razer and I know the Alienware M15 R4 has an option with advanced Optimus.

And no, I toggled Optimus and it still stays locked at 60Hz - it was ONLY when I finally selected dGPU that I could get 240Hz as an option.

I just tried again, I can't even select "auto" anymore - only Optimus or dGPU. Auto is grayed out. But for sure, no 240Hz when using Optimus. Tried in windows settings and Intel Command Center.

 

It’s very disappointing that nvidia would release such a half-baked, poorly thought out feature.

 

I was generally excited about this new Razer. The key features that sold me on Razer in the slick sheets were QHD, advanced Optimus, G-Sync, and of course, that sweet 3070 GPU (and being a premium built machine with slightly less obnoxious fans) - oh yeah and two m.2 slots for max storage.

So far what I'm finding

1. QHD screen is good - nice and bright and colorful - when in 240hz mode is smooth and slick as snot - really good display and definitely a huge upgrade in 240Hz over the 60hz mode on the MacBook Air I have.
2. Advanced Optimus seems like one step forward, but largely two steps back IMO - I want HFR display for productivity while on battery - it makes everything smoother and nicer to work with. I guess I completely misunderstood this feature. For some I'm sure this ability to toggle dGPU without a reboot is amazing - and I'm betting they get it sorted to automagically toggle this when you launch a game in short order.
3. G-SYNC - only works if you manually go through a multi step process - enable dGPU mode, then enable 240HZ as a second step
4. 3070 GPU - seems to run behind my desktop 2060 SUPER so I'm shrugging here - maybe it will be better in Cyberpunk or other RTX games, but I'm not sure how to bench that game to compare?
5. Definitely feels premium, but the keyboard's 19MM keycaps stink compared to my MacBook Air's 22MM caps - I guess I would get used to it - but I dislike the size and also the way they put the SHIFT characters UNDERNEATH the keys - guess I never noticed that in reviews or the pictures!
6. Fans are definitely a very nice thing for a gaming machine - but I have gotten used to a dead silent portable powerhouse, and not dealing with that typical gamer laptop "hot spot" on the bottom when you use it in any other "posture" other than when the machine is flat on a desk (I like to use my MacBook Air in bed, or my lap on the couch, etc).

I wanted one machine to combine my desktop PC and my MacBook Air into a do it all machine. I knew I would compromise in some major ways with a gaming laptop as a portable device but the advantages needed to be really impressive to win out (the ones I am prioritizing above).

Hard to go back to a typical laptop after using an M1 MBA. I really hope that intel/amd/nvidia can create a truly generational leap soon like this M1 Mac. The 7-12W chip doesn't burn my legs for most use - surprises me that I can still play an hour or two of a strategy game on the M1 on my bare legs and it's largely fine (CIV VI, Stellaris, etc). Plus I can do so on battery or plugged in without any change in performance. Battery lasts a lifetime - I don't even worry about it most of the time. Instant on - I can't stand opening the Razer now and waiting even 2-3 seconds for the display to come on.

I know I'll take flack for some of this here on a Razer fan sub - but just sharing, not trying to be a fanboy as I've always been a huge tech fan in general - and want a windows/gaming machine to really move forward.

 

Or that Razer would push this out without it even working in their Synapse software too - that I have to dig into Nvidia CC - and go through a two step process, then remember to switch back when I go off AC power - will just result in a lot of missed switches where I can see myself forgetting and then realizing my battery is gone because I was in dGPU mode.

 

Thats pretty awful. On my GS75 I got 48.8 fps stock, 52 overclocked and 61.5 shunt modded using the RTX preset at 1080p

Can you re-run SOTR at 1080p so i can get a better picture of how it performs in non RT titles?

 

I don't mean this snarky - but 1FPS more makes the Blade 15 "awful"? I don't know what a shunt mod is though - but that boost looked amazing!

 

Ran SoTR at 1080P max settings (no RTX)

Average FPS 100 - 15,673 score

 

Not awful in the absolute sense. Awful considering its a 3070M as it should be performing way better, showing how power limited it currently is.

Shunt modding involves bypassing the power limit, a low power limit is why your 3070M is performing so poorly. Thats why its so important for manufacturers to disclose the gpu power limits they set on a specific laptop. An 80w 3080M will be slower than a 130w 3060M for instance.

For SOTR i got 95 fps stock, 105 overclocked and 116 shunt modded

 

It’s not bad and normal considering maxP 3060 got 38fps extreme 1080p, and not every one use OC on laptops due better thermal, not mentioned shunt mode, so stop comparing it with your heavily moded laptop.

What is your lappy gs75 when I’m not wrong ? So you better comparing with other 17 inch laptops for having more cooling room, and according Jarrod SoTR highest is also 91, is your stock also cross flashed bios “stock”, I remember MSI thin light use less tdp than blade laptops before, making some users coming here asking gpu bios
If you want comparing with cheat 3070 ultrabook here my SoTR result, did your shunt mode achieve it? Sorry only play minimum @1440p idk 1080p and not OC btw, if want OC result tell me just got the machine like 2 days.

 

I gave stock and OC numbers precisely because of that. And vs stock its pretty underwhelming still.

And FYI gpu overclocking on laptops is basically undervolting to let it clock higher at a given power limit. It won't draw any more power or run hotter unlike on desktops.

No, when i say stock i meant stock stock, right out of the box without any sort of optimisations. Heck i use the performance profile instead of the extreme profile that applies a pre overclock for terminology's sake (stock means no overclocking period). Jarrod's benches are always lower than actual units for some reason and it has always annoyed me.

 

So it’s 2080maxq gs75? So go to blade pro 17 and ask their results since blade 15 is always running on lower tdp than the pro, though the result would be similar since I saw they run also max on only 100 watt, I think due 230 watt ac adapter limitation. So better checking around higher tdp laptops like gs76, Alienware m17 r4 or legion pro 16 on tank 2,5kg plus class instead here.

 

The revised blades all run 100w vbioses regardless if its 15 or 17. My GS75 came with a 90w 2080 Max-q and its well within the thin and light category at 2.3kg.

I'm not looking for a new laptop btw , I'm not interested in the meagre improvements offered by the cut down 3000 series mobile gpus. Just looking around to see which laptops are the best this gen for the sake of knowing.

 

Best depends what you’re looking at and subjective, performance for money you’re at wrong place but not every one annoyed by 5 or 10 FPS difference since it might be laptop you’ll carry around and see every day, the looks and build quality the blade still on the top imo, I prefer looking at and bringing sexy laptop than bringing ugly heavy one with 10 FPS better performance, no one ask how much FPS you’re getting LoL. Oh yeah there’s some 17 inch laptops under 2,5Kg like Eluktronik and gs75, but heck they’re out of my radar if you are getting used to blade build quality and personally the look.