Take Full Control of your Razer Blade w/no PL Throttling

The vbios on your razer blade should be the 90W version.
The next jump would be 115W and then 125W.
If you are looking for a 95W or 100W version, modding with mobile pascal vbios tweaker and flashing through hardware programmer is the only way.
Once you read through this thread you might be able to understand how to do this:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/mobile-pascal-tdp-tweaker-update-and-feedback-thread.806161/

 

Are you saying I can flash any 1070 VBIOS with higher wattage and it will work?

I'm not sure hardware programming is my forte.

 

no it wont, if the vrm's cant deliver, they will simply run too hot and they wont deliver the necessary power. People here think too lightly about flashing the vbioses in my opinion.

 

I appreciate the warning - I was reading this thread and was wondering was it possible on a Razer Blade 15: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/np8954-gtx-1070-max-q-gtx-1070-unlock.826608/page-7

 

I've flash the stock full mobile 1070 onto my GS65 long time ago, of course the chassis can't handle that kind of heat, so what I did was limit the voltage and frequency using voltage curve and lowered to around 95~100W using MSI afterburner.

Anyways, vbios size does not matter, you'll need to make sure the first 8 letters of the hardware ID is absolutely the same and the checksum is close to the stock vbios you had on your laptop.

For my case it is 10DE 1BA1 so I look for the vbios that has the same hardware ID, as for the checksum, you can open the dumped vbios using Pascal mobile TDP tweaker to see the checksum.

I've tried flashing the RB15's 1070Max-Q vbios onto my GS65, falcon reset triggered, they are both 10DE 1BA1 but the checksum are very different, mine is 13970944, RB15's 1070 Max-Q is 22625280, they are pretty far.

But the one I got from MSI GE73 was 13621504 and I was able to flash and use normally.

Just something to watch out when doing cross-flashing.

 

Tbh it seemed like file size/structure was more important than checksum - I flashed one 166kb VBIOS and thought I bricked it because it wasn't showing in my Device Manager as NVIDIA 1070 Max Q anymore but when I reflashed an Alienware VBIOS the same size as my backup (232kb) it stuck no problems, just needed a clean install of NVIDIA drivers.

 

Could you zip and post your stock vbios and the one that has worked on yours and the one that didn't work on yours here? Total 3 vbios, I'll show you the screenshots of the differences between them.

 

My bad, the BIOS that bricked it was actually 252kb, here are the BIOS - backup is RB15 stock, Alienware is the one I had to flash to to get back to stock and the ASUS one is the one that temporarily "bricked" the card.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/tqzq5wzahkwe1rv/VBIOSes.rar/file

On a side note: this TDP unlock is amazing for speeding up your RB15 but is it normal for it to be spiking my CPU temps to 90+ degrees? While gaming especially ( even with TURBO OFF) I'm getting temps way higher than before and hitting into power/thermal limits much quicker on the GPU.

 

The checksum is close that's why you were able to flash it, the thing is the ASUS one you flashed is for G-sync model, so yeah it'll definitely activate the Falcon security.

In fact Razer is the weird one here, because usually checksum of the 1BA1 are ranged from 13000000 to 14100000, but the Razer one is 22625280, and if you search, there isn't a 1BA1 VBIOS that has a checksum near 22625280, only the 1BE1's do.

Size doesn't matter in this case.

 

Nice! So most 55AA BIOSes should work? The 1B A/E 1 difference didn't seem to matter to my card, it took both.

 

That's probably the case for Razer.

Because Razer has the checksum close to a 1BE1, if you don't activate the Falcon security you should be able to use most 1BE1 vbios that shows the checksum around 22000000 ~ 28000000.

For MSI and Gigabyte it's a different story, their checksum is around 13000000 ~ 14100000, and so far I haven't seen any 1BE1 vbios around that range, so they will have to strictly stick with 1BA1 vbios But there are still a lot of 1BA1 vbios out there so it's no big deal.

In fact for a 1BA1 with a checksum range inside 22000000 ~ 28000000, Razer is the only one I have seen that's doing this, so yeah for nvflash cross flashing you probably can only go for 1BE1 with 55AA.

 

Do you have this 100W VBIOS for the 1070 Max Q everybody seems to be talking about?

EDIT: How about Hex editing the PCI-E IDs to match?

 

As I understood, there isn't any stock 100W GTX1070 vbios out there, it is just the modded version.

I dumped the vbios using nvflash, modded the vbios using Pascal mobile TDP tweaker, and use Auto to flashed the modded vbios onto mine using Skypro (Need 1.8v adapter or your chip will fry after a few tries).

I have the target to to 80W and limit set to 100W and also enable the power slider.

Edit: You will need to do hardware flashing if you mod any value inside the vbios. As the Falcon security isn't cracked software wise.

 

Will this do the job?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/KeeYees-SO...ywords=ch341a&qid=1568384390&s=gateway&sr=8-2

 

Firstly use the nvflash to check your chip model and supported voltage,

simply put a -check behind nvflash.exe will work.

Second, you need to look in the spec sheet to see if the model of the chip is supported by CH341A.

Third, I'm not sure what voltage does CH341A use, you might need to purchase a 1.8v adapter.

At least for Skypro, the 1.8v adapter was needed.

Also the clip is very important, Pomona seems to have better quality and also smaller and better contact compared to the cheap ones.

These are the ones I purchased:

Skypro
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FN4KX35/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Multicolored Dupont Wire
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EV70C78/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

CPT-063 Test Clip SOIC8 Pomona 5250
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HHH65T4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

1.8V Adapter
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072KYK2DR/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

What GHz are you guys limiting your processor to after this mod to play games? It's impossible to keep this thing cool before the mod nevermind after it - I'm seeing CPU spin up to 100 degrees with CPU and GPU load on.

 

Most of us are using liquid metal to mitigate this. Otherwise you are going to need to use an undervolt and some lower clocks.

 

I'm not sure what happened, but now when I access my BIOS it enters as administrator, and I cannot make the changes I want to make because I'm not the user. Anybody have any idea how to resolve this?

 

I would probably just flash stock and redo the edits.


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I have several times, and I just can't get in to access the modified settings

*EDIT*

When you go into the BIOS, does it say you are Administrator or User?

 

Well, it took me a couple days to figure out why I couldn't access the additional settings on my mid 2019 RB15...When my Intel 660p NVME is installed, I can't see the settings. When I remove it, all the settings are there. Not sure why, but it worked.

 

Wait what? What settings does uninstalling this driver give you access to?

 

My message was with regards to the BIOS mods this post is about. When modifying my BIOS, I can't see the modified settings with my 3rd party NVME installed.

 

Did you try make boot usb windows installation/directly per adapter to new nvme from your original Razer nvme through troublesetting on windows menu as well? It apparently recovered original Razer software as well, that may solve that weird issue. Didn’t try it yet but I saw user did that and got exactly Razer Software like Synapse installed on default as well with windows Razer logo on his new upgraded ssd.

 

After much testing it seems like the newest Razer Synapse (3.4.921.91704) might be interfering with the mods described in this thread - no matter what I set under TPL in Throttlestop Synapse seems to be overriding it.

 

Could use a little help. I followed the guide and everything worked well. However, my Blade 15 9750 came with a undervolt of -100 that doesn't seem to work with these settings. I can manually go into XTU and change it to -75 and everything is fine. Where can I remove this default undervolt in the bios?

 

I believe if you enable Overclocking Performance>Processor>Core Voltage Offset, you can change the default -100mV. I cannot currently test this, but I'm pretty sure this is right.

 

I actually tried that, but I couldn't get that option to show up. I'll try again later, maybe I did something wrong.

Quick update. I finally got the overclock option and Core Voltage Option to show up, but when I change it for some reason it's only changing Cache Voltage Offset. Does anyone know why this would be?

 

Hi all, I have a early 2019 RBS 13 (8565u MX150) and have used this guide to great success. I have a laptop now which is more powerful than when it came out of the box and is stable.

I do however, want to be able to see (I know they're estimates) my total system power draw. Because of the BIOS changes, when using apps like HWinfo, my total system power draw is like...0.x W which is obviously incorrect. This is probably due to the IMON changes?

Is there a way I can get a reasonable guide to power draw with this mod being done, without relying on an external volt meter? Or at least draw the correlation between what my total system power draw is reading now back to what it would actually be? (I dont understand the IMON changes fully, I suspect if I did, I could work it out)

Thanks!

 

IMON tweak adds a negative offset to the reported TDP to avoid the PL1 from kicking in, so it's normal that you see a significantly low number of the wattage after you have done the tweak.

 

I flashed the edited bios and changed the settings as shown in the guide on my Razer Blade base 2018. I thought flashing back to the original would reset the edited settings, but saw TS reported lower wattages after flashing back. Do any of you have the original values for the settings for bios?

Also, to get it to report even lower wattage, how can i tweak the IMON? When it should report 60w, after the tweak it reports 32w. Is there someway to get the reported wattage down to 10-15watts? I want this because the all core boost caps at 3915MHz on full load, and temps max out at 74C, so I have more thermal headroom here. If i get the system to report 10-15watts, I think I may be able to get the full 4.1GHz boost all core on the 8750h.

 

Increase the IMON Offset.

If you want to let it have an offset of -42W, just put 42000, just make sure the IMON Prefix is set to negative.

However, some models seem to have a different maximum offset you can go up to, so you'll have to try and see.

By the way the multiplier of the 8750H is hard locked. So unless you increase the BCLK, you are stuck with 3.9GHz @6 core active.

Increasing the BCLK is done through microcode I believe, haven't tried it myself.

 

Sorry if already asked but can you (and should you) do this on a 2019 blade?

 

You can do this and it works great. "Should" is up to you.

 

I've been working on getting some more options available in the BIOS that don't become available just by changing to USER in AMIBCP. My initial observations are below:

1)
Original:


Modded:


I know it doesn't look like anything at this point, but changing

0x308C5 Form: Main, Form ID: 0x2711 {01 86 11 27 09 00}
0x308CB Suppress If: {0A 82}
0x308CD Variable 0xD39 equals 0x0 {12 06 39 0D 00 00}
0x308D3 Text: Access Level {03 08 17 00 02 00 18 00}
0x308DB End If {29 02}
0x308DD Suppress If: {0A 82}
0x308DF Variable 0xD39 equals 0x1 {12 06 39 0D 01 00}
0x308E5 Text: Access Level {03 08 17 00 02 00 19 00}​

to

0x308C5 Form: Main, Form ID: 0x2711 {01 86 11 27 09 00}
0x308CB Suppress If: {0A 82}
0x308CD Variable 0xD39 equals 0x0 {12 06 39 0D 00 00}
0x308D3 Text: Access Level {03 08 17 00 02 00 18 00}
0x308DB End If {29 02}
0x308DD Suppress If: {0A 82}
0x308DF Variable 0xD39 equals 0x 0 {12 06 39 0D 0 0 00}
0x308E5 Text: Access Level {03 08 17 00 02 00 19 00}
​

Removed the "Access Level" line from the BIOS page.


2)
I've got the RB15 advanced mid 2019 BIOS allowing selection of default, custom, xmp1, and xmp2 profiles for memory. My chips don't have xmp profiles, so can't guarantee these work. The custom profile, however, does work and sticks after boot. So far I've only tested that decreasing the multiplier decreased my frequency appropriately.


Now I'm trying to see what else I can get done with these changes.

 

That's great!

Since you got to the RAM timing page, so you got the whole Overclocking menu to show?

You can lower the tREFI by 10 and do a cmos clear and see if RAM setting resets back to default value (It may still be on custom profile), if it does you are very much qualified to OC the RAM and still can clear the setting using CMOS clear.

To OC to somewhere like 3467MHz or higher you'll need to increase the uncore (Called System agent in ThrottleStop)'s voltage offset by at least +100mV to stabilize the memory controller.

See my signature if you need more info on RAM OC'ing.

 

I can change all settings and they stick correctly. And cmos clear, had to several times while overclocking my RAM. I will look into your signature link and see if I can get even more out of my RAM.

 

Looking into the link @hackness provided, I've got my memory OC'd nicely on my RB15a mid 2019. My 2666MHz is running stably at 3200MHz and showing some great improvements. Took a couple of days of messing around with the BIOS for this system, but glad to finally have it all figured out and working correctly.

In AIDA64 benchmarks
.................Original...............MemOC'd..............Improvement
Read........34544 MB/s.........45405 MB/s...........31.4%
Write........39478 MB/s.........48871 MB/s...........23.8%
Copy.........34022 MB/s........44450 MB/s...........30.7%
Latency.....85.2 ns................57.1 ns..................33.0%

Before Mem OC:


After Mem OC:

 

Wow that is awesome. Could you make a guide?


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I will start writing something up in a couple hours. It is a bit more intensive than the modifications in the OP, but anyone should be able to do them with some simple instructions.

Which Razer version do you have?

 

Awesome. I have the Razer 15 Early 2019


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The guide has been posted. http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...otential-to-unlock-all-hidden-options.830993/

 

Awesome work! Could you please take a Look to the bios of razer blade 15 advanced 2018?

Because in the 2018 bios the overclocking menu isnt Part of the tree in advanced like in the 2019 bios.

It seems that overclocking is a part of the root menu without a Label.

 

I believe it can be enabled. The problem with me having a look is that I have no way to test it. The best I can say is follow the guide and see where it takes you.

 

Looks great!

 

Has anyone here dissasembled the lcd panel from a Blade 15 here? I am about to try a 144hz panel on my base 2018, but I am not sure how to dissasemble the screen chassis.

Edit: Woops, I thought this was the owners forum. Sorry.

 

For anyone wondering, the late 2019 Blade Stealth 1650 max-q benefits from this massively.

In Cinebench r20 it went from 1209 to 2117. Constant 2182 MHz with no throttling and the thermals aren't terrible with stock paste, around 80-85 degrees under full load.

Battery life seems unaffected also at about 9 hours of general web surfing and productivity.

Thanks to OP for sharing!

Also is there any way to determine the "corrected" Watts the cpu is pulling? Math or another program?

 

Can you share your exact timings? I imagine all our Blades could benefit from your settings or near to them anyway.

If anything goes wrong a CMOS reset will fix it anyways.

 

That is 100% dependant on your memory modules. Mine are not the stock ones, so will be of no use for you. You just have to test setting and see what you get. There are only a handful of options to mess with, change 1 at a time, a step at a time, making note of what works and what doesn't.

 

At least share your speed and CL