P775TM1-G reseller advice; BIOS (Unlocked or Locked)

Hi All,

I'm from the UK and am about to pull the trigger on a new P775TM1-G, But am hoping you can help regarding BIOS Advise.

There are 2 Clevo resellers I have cheapest prices from;

EUROCOM (Offers "UNLOCKED" BIOS)
PC Specialist (Offers Stock BIOS, but with overclocking via Software / CCC)

EuroCom offer "UNLOCKED" BIOS, though as I understand it, they are no longer PREMA partners?

Are EUROCOM using PREMA Bios without consent? Or is it their own unlocked BIOS?

If it is their own Unlocked BIOS, does anyone know how it compares to PREMA?


Which of the two would you choose?

(FYI: I cannot buy for any PREMA Partnerssuch as HIDEvolution because they are unfortunately too expensive)

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Xoticpc is a Prema partner and eurocom are the most expensive I've seen so far. Not an actual advice though but check Xoticpc

 

I'll check them out now!

The reason EUROCOM are cheapest for me is because I don't pay any 20% TAX (eurocoms site allows you to deduct tax and pay without any applied, most others don't), I also get 10% discount as a student.



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Well, that's something I didn't know. We are all learning every single day

 

How are getting away with not paying the 20% tax from Eurocom ?

From what I have heard Eurocom unlocked bios are just the stock bios that have had the options turned back on, whether the machine supports that option or not.

Maybe worth contacting Prema about a bios and get your machine from PCS is a better option.

 

EuroCom allow the sale without TAX, when it gets brought back onto the UK I have to pay import VAT (20%) which I then claim back from the UK Government.

In total it would be 30% discount including the 10% discount because I am a student.

PC Specialist don't do student discounts but they are already cheaper than EUROCOM.

I will try and get hold of PREMA to ask about getting the BIOS onto a PCS Machine.



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I take it you are a student from overseas?

 

Yes, based in the UK, at a new (VAT Registered) Company.

ClevoCenter, based in Portugal (Europe) are able to provide a P775 with the same spec, Excluding VAT and with an 8% discount.

Effectively I can get a PREMA P775 from Clevo Center, if anyone recommends them?

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Clevo Center Spec

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Buy from obsidian-pc here in Portugal. You have support and free apps to control and update your pc and plus the BIOS is unlocked totally

 

Difference between ''unlocked" and Prema Mod:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/index.php?posts/10910824

Is Eurocon a Prema Mod Partner:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/index.php?posts/10862947

Who is a Prema Mod Partner:

https://premamod.com/partner/

 

Thank you, i have just looked and Obsidian are actually slightly cheaper than ClevoCenter!

The phenomenal reviews of Obsidian PC make it a clear choice.

@John@OBSIDIAN-PC

Do you know if there are any active promo codes on the Obsidian Site?

EDIT: I decided the price was already reasonable enough so didint want to push for a discount!

 

We don't really have any discount campaign going on.

As for the BIOS our is unlocked with custom logos and a bunch of tuned default values.

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If you are ordering through a UK company and the laptop is for company usage, then you can claim the 20% tax back from HMRC if you purchase from PCSpecialist - you just complete your company tax return!

If you order from any company in the EU and you have a UK VAT number and registered company, you don't pay their local tax. All our non-German B2B customers pay zero tax as per EU tax rules. You still have to declare this purchase in your tax return though.

If you buy from outside the EU, you will be charged 20% UK VAT by HMRC at the point that the shipment enters the UK as you already understand, this is usually managed by the shipping company if you purchase from a reliable company). And technically you only offset the VAT that you pay to customs on the import against the VAT you charge for your products or services when you sell them - if this works for you running a UK VAT registered business whilst a student then no problem ;-)


All in all, as you're ordering as a VAT registered company, the only difference it makes to the price you pay is WHEN you pay the tax - so you should factor in other important features, for example warranty, easy of warranty repair and location (including shipping and time), spec and features (like BIOS if you need that control for work purposes), customer support (location and quality) and so on. You can often judge companies based on if they automatically offer massive discounts (either means they have inflated prices at the start, or they are desparate to sell); support and reliability is well covered in the Reseller Feedback Forum. Are you getting the mainland EU minimum 24 month parts warranty, or lower default US and UK warranty - plus if itsays 2 or 3 year warranty is that on the parts or only labour?

Also you'll find that lots of companies have different departments for B2B and B2C customers. For example, I only look after business customers and they can't order thorugh our website (one reason being is to stop fraudulent zero rated tax purchases without manual checking on our side) - but that's generally not a problem as our B2B customers rarely order just one laptop and so talking to one of our staff is generally the first step in building their orders up for them.

 

Prema, I just purchased my 2nd Clevo based laptop. This time from XoticPC as it's listed as one of your partners. I contacted them about getting your Bios but they responded that they no longer supply the "Prema" bios.

On my last laptop build, I purchased the Bios from you directly, Do you still do this?

Cheers.