(Clevo D900F) (SAGER 9285) Benchmarks Thread

No, we don't know for sure yet, and hopefully Witcher or BabyHemi will confirm the status soon.

 

there is no readings for the 480 on hw info.

who is witcher? i hear about that guy i cant find no thermal readings on hwinfo32 for the gpu

 

Wow there is no reading at all ? Ugg... Oh well not much you can do then and if the RAM is running hot so be it....

What ever testing your doing is only short term so its really no biggie either way ...

 

Everest reports the below about sensor temps...


Sensor


Sensor Properties:
Sensor Type CPU, HDD, ACPI
GPU Sensor Type Driver (NV-DRV)

Temperatures:
CPU 46 °C (115 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 44 °C (111 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 44 °C (111 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 43 °C (109 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 43 °C (109 °F)
GPU 44 °C (111 °F)
Seagate ST9500420AS 34 °C (93 °F)

 

hey guys eleet works to overclock the 980x to 3.8ghz.!

 

Can you run that CPU OC and still OC the GPU to do a 06 and a Vantage run?

 

Lol nice...

That thing truly is a monster...

 

This is amazing, this machine is truly a true beat lets see what the X7200 will be like though. Speedy thanks for your benchmarks etc...

 

holy balls thats awesome. I'd like to see a 5870 OCed with same set up vs OCed 480.

 

Can nvidia rig the sensor so it report lower temps? The Card is draws the most power in mobile graphic history.

 

I dont think Nvidia would bother with something as underhanded as that lol...

Not saying its not possible but just not worth the trouble it could bring....

Nvidia has had some issues over the years to say the least ...

 

The fact that the 480M draws more power than any other mobile card and is showing lower temps than 5870's and 4870's is very suspicious. I'm inclined to think the chip is actually quite a bit hotter than is being displayed. That ram can't be running very cool either. Hopefully we can find out for sure sometime soon.

 

Compared to the 5870 in what environment? I removed the access panel on my NP9285 review unit and the video card looks to be very well cooled. It has its own fan and large copper heatpipes.

Unless you compare the 480M and the 5870 in the same environment with the same cooling, then you can't point fingers.

 

We may never know ...

If there is no way to monitor that RAM we will be playing the guessing game...

Personally i think it should be fine regardless , if you follow the Desktop scene at all you will know the average temp for the 470 and 480 during most intense games is 94 degrees .... How hot do you think that RAM is getting lol ?... This is also why Speedy water cooled his 480s in the desktop .... When he saw 94 he had a heart attack ....

The mobile cards are running much cooler but they are are also volted at .85 so even if the RAM was hot the rest of the card is not and i doubt its much to worry about + thats what a warranty is for ....


The NP9285 is the Juggernaut of laptops ... The cooling system is bar none the best i have ever seen .. It will be interesting to see how other manufactures try to cool these cards down but based on past efforts
it will not even remotely resemble Clevo's ....

 

stick a sensor between on the memory module, between the heat sink and the card lol.

kidding...

 

@ Witch...erm..Speedy!,
Could you run 06 with the OC'ed CPU?
3.8x6 sounds crazy. Also, how's the temp?

 

do we have any decent judgment by now on which has a better cooling design, the 8850 or 9285?
thanks

P.S: i know we cant compare apples to oranges, just asking which one does a better job at cooling its own gear.

 

Seems the GPU temps are basically the same... The CPU temps are going to vary based on which CPU you have and both systems using entirely different technology ...

Speedys temps on the 6 core are amazing to say the least but thats a 32nm $1000.00 CPU ... Chaz's temps on the 930 look some what similar to Hemi's 920 temps but i believe Hemi said he was going to repaste since they did seem awfully high for a 920....

It really is an apples to oranges comparison as you say though ....

From what Speedy said about the build quality of the D900f vs his last machine the 8760 Clevo they are night and day so you can draw some conclusions from there ...

Him and i talk on the phone all the time so i cant say on here what he felt about the W8760CU compared to the D900F but i think you get the point ...

I didnt mind the build quality of the W8760 though ....

 

ok guys for all the ones want to know if i can run vantage and 06 overclocled
i did but it won't affect the scores that means the cpu is not really overclocked that high
i may need a different program because it looks possible

 

Very good point. The GPU cooling is more beefy for the 480M so they can't be compared directly like that. But I'm a bit concerened about the ram and the lack of any ram heat monitoring is worrysome to me personally.

 

It's not really true that 5870MR has high GDDR5 temps as well, since there is no temp sensor for vram on 5870MR, what it shows is the memIO, which is the memory controller on the ATI chip, and not the vram temp themselves, that's why you can have acceptable temp on your memIO on 5870MR but still fry your card when OCed the memory too high.

 

What's more important: Why oc the memory anyway? A 10% overclock may be alright and this will not fry the memory, but the bandwith even with stock clocks is so high on that it will most likely never be a problem. You probably would need to oc the GPU core / shader by 40% in order for the bandwith to become the bottleneck. As far as I can see from the desktop benchmarks, memory bandwith only becomes a problem at resolutions above 1920x1200/1080.

 

any benchmarks posted or not yet (fps and gaming temperatures) ?

 

The temperature depends on the external condition.
The best is to provide the room temperature when measuring the temps on computer.

 

i try to use nbitor 5.6 but seems to not recognize the bios right the timings are all over the place

very true on this card the core and shader is to low and the memory is fine
the only time i saw performance increase is when i raise the clock but the max i can get with stock voltages is 530 if we can get the voltage from .800v to .900v this card is going to scream

 

So actually, in vantage, we got the same score Speed Gonzales

 

As I've wrote before, try to change the device ID to that of the 465 GTX, it's 06C4. Or 470 / 480 -> 06CD / 06C0 and then hit the scan button. Or better still, can you try to upload the vBIOS somewhere?

 

i try there is no scan button and i don't see the gtx465 there

here is the bios if you want to take a look thanks http://www.sendspace.com/file/0g4y3w

 

Well, looks like that even by changing the device ID you still don't get the correct clocks.

I suppose we will just have to wait for the next version of Nibitor.

 

Sager 9285 will be discontinued??!!

have u guys seen this?

Sager 9280/9285 to be Discontinued ... Sager has just notified us that the Sager 9280/9285 will be discontinued in about one month, as the screen for this mo ...

 

Probably to free room for X7200

 

Well the excuse for discontinuation may have to be taken with a grain of salt but maybe its true. Maybe 1900x1200 in laptops will truly become dead over the year. Really unfortunate..

 

Im not surprised at all since 16:10 is almost officially dead now....

 

Business 17" notebooks still have 16:10 mostly. But the next refresh will probably kill it, you're right.

 

Words cannot describe my disgust towards this forceful adoption of the 16:9 resolution.

16:9 are great for the average user who can get a better resolution at a slightly lower price, but gaming and productivity always work better on 16:10.

 

Anybody posted this review already? It's in German but the pictures and vids speak for themselves. The benchmarks don't tell you much (wrong resolutions, comparision to systems with mobile CPUs). But the test claimed Battlefield: Bad Company 2 had graphic glitches which rendered gameplay impossible and the Stalker DX11 benchmark crashed several times and could not be completed... so much for better driver support.

But, I find the video on the first page noteworthy. From the vid or from this picture you can see that the GTX 480M is actually cooled by two heatpipes leading to two heat exchangers and two fans and it still reaches 77°C under load? Holy .... how is this going to work in the W880CU and is the X7200 made purely out of copper ;-)? I think that just shattered my dreams of ever installing this card in my laptop (would have been dependend on a considerable price drop anyway).

The article also states that unless MSI and other consumer brands are introducing there own version of the GTX 480M the price will not drop, which makes sense and considering how tough the GTX 480M is to cool after all I don't think other manufacturers will sell this card, they will just go with the GF104 based mobile cards (or ATI cards).

However, the review is dated of today, if they conducted the test in the past couple of days it could very well be that the room temperature was around 30°C.

 

Yeah in the W880CU both the CPU/GPU fans are cooling the card.... They took an extra pipe and ran it over infront of the CPU fan... The temps look equal to that of the NP9285 though which i thought was impressive...

 

I agree; the 480M is a very big card (for a mobile card) and the temperature most definitely varies depending on where the temperature is taken . . .

 

So, whats the consensus form the first in hand 480, does it curb stop the 5870 or were all the early reports accurate? From what i read here, its OCing pretty well, as does the 5870.

 

Nope no curb stomping going on though it is a nice card...

Speedy said if you own a 5870 dont even bother and thats coming from an owner of the card and also someone who had the 5870m prior...

If pricing were similar to the 5870m though things would be so much different....

Good yes.. Better then the 5870m ? yeah its better but not by the margin many would have thought ... Worth the money ? nope not really ...

I would say that sums it up...

 

The performance is definitely superior to 5870MR, considering that it will perform even better in tessellation enabled games. The problem is whether it's worth the price... the pricing is in the overpriced quadro card territory.

 

If there were more tesselated games out then it might be worth abit more but based on whats available today in the gaming world most would be better off waiting till the next round of cards come out and even if you want a DX11 card your still better of going with the 5870m and saving that extra $600 or so for your next machine....

 

Ya was just curious, i spent the extra cash on a External Samsung led display and a Razer Mamba.

 

Good choices ... Those will serve you well for a long time to come...

 

I have to admit, Clevo did a nice job in cooling this card. Crazy job! And absurd. It's obvious to me that without the encapsulating heatsink and all the extra pipes splitting the heat between 2 fans, we would most likely see a huge difference in temps. The only urge I'm getting from all these efforts is to test an MR5870 in the same system and with the same/similar cooling.
Another weird thing is that with such cooling approach we could probably (theoretically) land almost a full-sized desktop GPU in a laptop soon. A little more copper and aluminum, more efficient bricks of 400-600W and welcome to notebook gaming Utopia.

 

Soz wrong post.

Wonder if it could push through 20k barrier... should be possible with the OC'ed CPU +GPU.

 

do you talking about 06? look the first post

 

Charles P. Jefferies, can you please post a stalker call of pripyat DX11 benchmark as well?

thank you!

 

I sent my NP9285 review unit back today so I can't run any more benchmarks. I already miss its power.

NP8850 will be in for review shortly.

 

I'll fix this issue in the next HWiNFO32 Beta pre-release (~1 day). Will post the update to the HWiNFO32 thread.