(Clevo D900F) (SAGER 9285) Benchmarks Thread

Interesting that HWiNFO32 will not install on my Clevo W880CU/Sager NP8850. After installing it, it freezes the whole system as soon as it starts to run. It did this after reinstalls and restarts, no matter what. My W870CU/NP8760 it installs and runs great. What is your thinking on this issue. Thanks.

 

I need more details - best would be to run HWiNFO32 in Debug Mode (enable in Configure dialog) and after it freezes you should find a HWiNFO32.DBG file there. Please send me that one.
Meanwhile you could also try to disable few options in HWiNFO32 / Configure like HPET, etc.

@all: If you're having issues with HWiNFO32, why don't you submit them to the HWiNFO32 thread here or HWiNFO forum? The more feedback I have, the more I can improve it.

 

thanks we really want to know what is going on with those rams

 

Since at least one of you guys here has a d900f, i have a question, because, obviously, the one who has it, opened it up.

The difference betwen a 9.5mm and a 12.5mm hdd is JUST 3mm in height.
Is it such a tight fit fitting the 9.5mm hdd in the 3 hdd slots of the d900f, that not even 3mm more in height are available to fit a 12.5mm hdd ?
Because i find this rather hard to believe.

 

The NP9285 can take three drives. The first two drives are stacked on top of each other and the third drive is under the battery. You might be able to fit a 12.5mm drive if you sacrificed the second hard drive space . . . I no longer have the unit so I cannot confirm this. Maybe Speedy can open it up and take a look.

 

Notebooks are specifically designed to use as much of the internal space as possible. If they can make the notebook 3mm thinner, they will... So it shouldn't be hard to believe as almost no notebooks have space for 12.5mm HDD's

 

that is the first thing i tough and is possible to put one of those on this laptop
not on the one under the battery but on the compartment where it takes two stack together
because there is a lot of space

here is the benchmark

i did and is possible but i want to try any way , i have one 12.5mm 880gb drive and i may try today to make sure you can still stack two drives one 9.5mm and one 12.5mm

 

Can u use one 9.5mm under the battery, and two 12.5mm stacked on each other ?
Not Necesary in these position, but what i'm asking, is can you fit two 12.5mm hdd and one 9.5mm hdd ?

Because i was thinking, one 9.5mm ssd and two 1TB 12.5mm hdd for storage.
SSD for windows and installed apps and games, and 2TB worth of storage.

 

no i just try and the max you can install is one 12.5 stacked with one 9.5 and under the battery is space for one 9.5 only but i think that is still a lot of space for storage

 

Thanks for info, that is very helpfull.
That means we could have 2 9.5 ssd-s in raid, for system/installs and one 12.5mm tb for storage.
All we need now is for intel engineers to come up with a firmware tha can send trim command behind a raid array.
Because the bad part about raiding 2 ssd-s is that currently there no way to trim them.
Once intel fixes this, we will be able to trim the array, and there will be no disadvantages what so ever to raiding ssd-s.

And if you think raiding ssd-s is expensive, there is the intel boot drive, the intel x25-v, 40gb per piece. Very cheap, and 2 of them should outperform a x25m 2nd gen 80gb.
I think the intel ssd-s are 7mm think without the black outer margin thingy, as seen here.
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1022/1/
9.5-7 = 2.5mm
So when you have 2 drives stacked upon each other, you would win 2.5mm, and to use a 12.5mm hdd, you would need only 0.5mm more wich is imposibile not to get.
Is this the reason you can stack a 12.5mm hdd ? in the 2 slot drive bay ?

 

Please try this update if it works well with the GTX 480M:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/win...ts-suggestions-discussions-9.html#post6438730

 

i will try when i get home to bad i don't bring the machine with me , thanks Mumak

if you really put your mind on put two 12.5mm drives is possible
but i find the only way is cutting the hdd. caddy
because it has a piece of sheet metal on the top
and is on the way to add the second thicker drive

 

the only benchmark that matters is the internal benchmark bath file from the original crysis in terms of testing the gpu power and temps, seriously.

can you run this benchmark?

 

thanks is working for me now but no memory sensors

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What's the MAX temp that you got from the GTX 480M?

Are you using a cooler?

 

Are you sure there is a temperature sensor on DIMM? If yes, please run HWiNFO32 in Debug Mode, open Sensors and after closing send me the HWiNFO32.DBG file so I can check and fix that too.

 

I dont believe there is one on the Nvidia cards from comments before hand... I have not looked at the desktop cards but he could have checked on his desktop to confirm it since he has 2xGTX480s ..

 

Wait.. a memory sensor on main memory (DIMM) or GPU memory sensor?

 

GPU memory sensor... Everyone is hooked on monitoring the Memi0 of the ATI cards to see whats going on...

GDDR5 runs hot and no one has a clue how it runs on the Nvidia cards...

 

Ah so on GPU.. I don't know how to monitor that one on nVidia, don't even know if it's possible at all...

 

that is with the cryo cooler max 68c-69c without the cooler i get 73c playng games last night i play bioshock for 3 hours and with the cooler never pass 70c

that is a good idea , i will try today

 

It should run cooler seing as the memory clocks in the GTX 480M are a lot lower than that in the 5870M.

 

Memory clocks on 480M @ 1200mhz vs MR5870 @ 1000mhz. They are actually higher
The core has lower clocks but that's not what I'm worried about, since we can monitor and control its temps.

 

At the end of the day none of us really know the temps that the actual memory is running at though...

Best way is to fire up furmark with the lid off the back of the machine and point a temp gun at it ...

I told Speedy this might not even be a good idea since once you see the temps you might want to sell the machine ...

 

NVidia actually calculates GDDR5 clocks differently (don't know why though). So their 1200mhz would be 2400mhz effective, while ATi's 1000mhz would be 4000mhz effective.

 

Well if thats the case then the Nvidia cards should have lots of headroom for cranking on the memory...

Speedy ran his mem at 1400mhz without issue so i guess i can see why that was so easily achieved ...

 

Effective clocks is one thing, "real" is another.
280M's and MR4870's had differently calculated clocks as well, but in reality the Green's ran warmer on my system (even though the core temps were always showing lower values) than the Red's. I did quite a bunch of tests with most existing drivers, same heatsinks, TIM, ambient, etc. The chassis was always warmer with the 280's.

Quad is right, we would need a single system, same cooling for both cards and a thermal gun for finding some bits of the truth.

 

If you can open up the system and have a look inside then things regarding the actual memory frequency will become a lot clearer. I wrote about this stuff a long time ago, you can see it in my sign.

 

But the effective clocks ARE the real clocks for GDDR5 (if that's what you mean by real in quotation?)

 

It's the effective memory clock specified by the GDDR producer.

 

Speedy, how hot does the keyboard gets to? The palm rest? Do you feel uncomfortable at all with the heat coming out of the laptop, overall?

 

there is no heat on the keyboard at all, after 3 hours of play is barely warm

 

Nice. Yeeba yeeba andre andre. What about the palm rest?

 

If it's anything like the 8690/8760, the keyboard and palmrest area would be completely cold to mild warmth even under extreme load, because they used thick plastics as insulation, and layer of plated metal under the plastic to redirect the heat.

 

exactly the only part actually gets hot is the back of the machine where the hot air is coming out and that seems pretty normal for me

 

At 5870 stock clocks, you will barely notice any difference at all.

 

Hey Speedy, have you played BC2? If so whats your fps range?

 

i don't play that yet but i try later and let you know

 

very interesting..
and you can not use regular nibitor to change the voltage...at least not with the free version. i have been in touch with them and they are working to incorporate the 480m into it just like they did for the 480 desktop version.
and since it is over clocking and keeping up with .0850 volts...pretty much explains it all..vs 5870 @1.15 volts. not sure why this doesn't translate well.
this system in a the hands of a "i dont care bencher" will pretty much kill all competion.(just my opinion is all)

great job on the early benching!!

this card will prove to be king pretty soon.
9700 gpu
with no freezer
no voltage
no cooler
room temp
very good start to say the least...

 

that's true this card has a lot of potencial in the right hands

i am not in to benching like others just when i get a new system i like to test it to make sure it works properly with a little stress

if this card wasn't running that cool i never try to overclocked more

 

but of course, speedy.

no worries.

 

I'll take care of the benching for ya....send it this way.

 

hey guys in case somebody interested my i7 980x is running cooler than ever

i install an extra fan on the cpu since it was missing but there was the space and the plug for it



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That is some crazy low temps on the CPU.

 

Can you tell me what fan that is and where you got it!! I would like to do the same! Also, can you put the cover back on or with the fan installed or do you have to leave it off?

Thanks,

chunk

 

i cant tell you what kind of fan is because i went with my friend he has a computer shop and i ask him for a laptop fan then he give me two to try, sorry
the cover fits perfect
but it has a part number i don't know if that help

 

Pick your poison. Dell uses slim fans in their notebooks so they should fit just fine in the D900F. Almost all of them should be 5V, 3-pin mini Molex, except for the USB ones of course. notebook cpu fan items - Get great deals on Computers Networking, Electronics items on eBay.com!

With a little bit of thermal tape to hold the fan down, you're ready to roll.

 

i make a little hole on the fan where it was a tread for the original fan on the heat sink and i was able to hold the fan with one screw

that seems to be enough

 

Damn my god those temps are insane for that processor i would love to buy that machine someday with that configuration!! I haven't been reading here how is the benchmarking going?

 

^^^^ I am not surprised at all at those low temps. There is no question to me who designs the best cooling system for high performing notebooks...