(Clevo D900F) (SAGER 9285) Benchmarks Thread

here you go Aikimox ATI HD5870 video card Heatsink modified for D900F - eBay (item 110535397132 end time Aug-17-10 10:27:19 PDT)

 

Ooo speedy knows Clevo D900F.

 

Speedy, will you sell X7200 "builder edition" when available ? Some people like me just want to swap their Desktop to this laptop and all part will fit on it.

 

Can you run some ingame benchmark or give us some numbers? I'd really like to know how that oc'ed card performs in comparison to a oc'ed MR HD 5870.

However, think it's clear from those temps that you cannot raise the voltage and still maintain 607/1400, temps would hit 105°C easily.

I also see no need for increasing the mem clock. There is plenty of bandwith, you'd only need a higher mem clock if you game above 1920x1200, but that is not really possible even with the desktop GTX 465, due to the relatively low number of texture mapping units.

 

thanks..
Considering i am not using a freezer or extra cooling the results are pretty amazing
if people talk about the 480m they always bring up the price tag and i understand that because not everybody can afford it but at this point they can't talk about heat because is running way cooler than the 5870

thanks and it wasn't hard to achieve that really this machine is real powerfull

well the only game i have time to play on this machine was bioshock and the performance was Amazing that makes me beat the game in 4 sessions

i am not a reseller but you can contact Babyhemy i know he can get one when available ,

it sounds pretty amazing and i want one but i don't know if the cooling is going to be same good as the D900F because they using one radiator only to cool the card

 

Ho damn 1 rad. Alright thanks !

 

Well you cannot really compare a two fan cooling solution to a one fan cooling solution. That the GTX 480M runs hotter is a fact. But if you really can push this card to desktop GTX 465 clocks without going over 95°C, it would truly perform way better than the MR HD 5870. Still, a mobile GTX 460 with 256 bit would be perfect.

 

i had a d901c. so i know exactly what type of cooling it has..the best!
kind of why i knew all this talk about gpu being on fire was a bunch of nonsense.
sorry, but clevo did in no way skimp on using copper and fans in the proper configuration.
not to mention that gpu is heavily under clocked to help keep that heat down.

sure you can...they went cheap and it shows. with more and more powerful gpus...they are going to have to ditch that design pretty soon.....
just like the 3870s were cool in the ocz, but trying to run 4870s was something entirely different. with that cheesy cooling system..it wasn't gonna happen, but off course..a bunch of people fell into the hype and got clowned for it.
the only real draw back about clevo was over clocking the cpu, but if they unlock that now...clevo will probably become all around king again. speculation of course. it wont win any awards on looks though.

 

i still think more than the two fans vs one fan this card is running cool because of the low Volts but we can find out when they release the x7200 because that is going to use a single fan solution

 

Speedy do you know of Linux drivers for the GTX480M?

 

sorry i don't know, not using linux at the moment

 

That's true...
I don't care how the system looks but there's one deal breaker for me - no anti glare screens. Otherwise, I'd be an early adopter of x7200.
Especially now, when I have a 8740w with an IPS 30-bit antiglare display, I can't even look at the glossy screens with poor-average viewing angles.
This is how, in my opinion, a decent laptop screen should look like.

 

What kind of a screen is that ?
I had samsung f2380m 23"lcd (dropt it on the floor and it was damaged beyond repair) and it had a vieweing angle of 178 degrees, (180 being horizontal hence imposibile to view) and it had a c-PVA panel. I don't know wheter or not it had backlighting of any type. But the panel was c-PVA and the viewing angles were awsome.

 

I stopped caring about notebook screen, because I found that no notebook screen will even compare with an external IPS monitor, even a cheap one like dell's U2311. As long as decent enough for out of home usage, it's good enough.

 

That is an IPS panel Bytales. That is absolutely jaw dropping.... *nerdbows*

Question for Aikimox are the new IPS panels now good for gaming? I know in both the desktop and laptop world the older IPS panels were pretty bad for gaming.

 

That's true, and I can agree - but still, it would be nice if even laptop screens could be used for photo or video editing, wouldn't it? I for one, would certainly pay a bit more to have a IPS panel in my D900.

 

This is a newly hatched HP LP2480zx's younger brother with similar specs.
It has 178 degrees on both horizontal and vertical angles, IPS 30-bit colour (10-bit per primary colour), - that's 1 billion true colours (almost perfect sRGB). The previous best found in W7xx, M6500 and M17X-R2, - TN RGB LED screen is only 8-bit per colour and has an average viewing angles (still called WVA, lol)

Gaming is perfectly possible, I'm writing a review as we speak and will also run the gaming benchmarks.


<<< M17X-R2 (RGB LED) and 8740w (DC2) side by side with a crappy camera - vertical angles comparison.

 

The newer IPS screens have improved on their response time, most games should work fine without ghosting effects.

Yes, it's great to have an IPS screen on the go, problem is, it's still inferior to external monitor because of the size. Yes, it would be good if we could pay a bit more for an IPS panel, problem is, it's not really "a bit more" lol. I'm a poor guy so I'll just use my external dell IPS monitor when at home and deal with the WLED TN screen when outside.

But well, I do agree, even though the screen might be a $500+ upgrade, it would be good to include it as an option in D900F series, since it's designed to be a workstation machine.

 

Yah, that's the problem with the resellers. When you customize the laptop, you can only choose, if you can choose at all, 1366x768, or 1080p screen. And that's it.
No telling what you might actually get !
It would be great if we could choose.
TN 768p, TN 1080p, TN 1080p Led CCFL, TN 1080p RGB LED, IPS 1080p, c-PVA 1080p, etc etc, what i try to point out here, we should be offered more options on the screen.

And i bet most of us get what the resseler offer and tend to upgrade on their own the screen, which i think it's a nasty job trying to find a quality screen, and that also fit the particular laptop your having.

What i also whant to say is that we don't have the kind of "customizability" we have on a desktop PC. And that's a shame, because i want a quality screen on my laptop, and the ability to replace it with something better when or if the initial screen fails or is no longer sufficient.

PS: We should make a thread specificaly adressing the issue of LCDs on clevo machines.

 

I have a nearly 4 years old Dell 2007 WFP S-IPS external screen, thoroughly calibrated for "serious" work at home. It has very good colour reproduction, gamma and colour temperature very close to 6500K, but it also has the common IPS flaw; not so good shadow detail. It can't distinguish the very bottom few shades of black/grey very well. PVA screens are better in that particular area. Still, that is more of an issue when watching/editing video, not so much when editing pictures. The TN panel of my D900 is better with shadow detail too, it's just that is impossible to calibrate it to get really good colours. Actually, when calibrated as good as it can get, it's not a bad screen at all, for a laptop. I really recommend calibrating with a good hardware/software kit - I used high-end screen manufacturers LaCie's alternative, the Blue Eye. A bit expensive, but I borrowed from a local graphical design company ... have a deal with them so I borrow their equipment twice a year, just to calibrate my screens, and my plasma TV

 

The 1200p screen in the d900f ? Is it a TN CCFL LED backlit ?

 

The D900F has a CCFL TN panel. The 17.3" 1080p LED-backlit panel on the NP8760/8850 is much better. The D900F doesn't have a bad screen; I simply did not find it all that impressive.

It would be nice if that kind of information was available on the configuration page. Unfortunately people looking for a specific type of screen are a very small slice of the market.
Over the last several years notebook screen quality has improved overall (though the resolution has gone down); most notebooks these days are coming with LED backlighting. It would be nice to get more than 70% color gamut though.

If you're looking for a better screen, getting an external monitor makes a lot more sense than trying to upgrade the laptop's (which will void your warranty).

 

Those viewing angles are great but are you ever going to use your computer with the display tilted like that? It's pointless at that angle. The horizontal angles are also more than sufficient for the RGB LED, they're wide enough to allow a person sitting on the side to see it without much image degradation. I made this video with my girlfriend filming it on the side and you can see in the video there was no image quality degradation from the angle change. The 10-bit color is awesome for people that do photography or professional graphics but for gamers an IPS panel wouldn't be necessary since RGB LED already covers >100% of the sRGB.

P.S. Congrats on finally getting it.

 

Thanks, Joker.
It's more than viewing angles. I tried running games and was astonished. Unfortunately, I don't have a decent enough camera to show what I see.
Here is the review, BTW.
Enjoy

 

Very nice review man, that screen does look amazing. The CPU temps were a bit high for an 820qm but not bad overall considering it's size. BTW could you use one of the ICC profiles we made for the M17x and then compare it side by side in a video or series of photos with the HP if you get time? I'm curious to see just how much of a difference the 10 bit makes.

 

I tried and our RGB LED profiles look bad on this screen.
I'm currently using a 8-bit mode, BTW. Windows 7 still doesn't fully support 10-bit. There will be more info soon but for now, even in a 8-bit mode I can see some big difference between the two screens.
Waiting for a good camera to make a comparative shootout.
Also the heat pipes and HS look kinda miniature compared to those of M17x, not even talking about Clevo's I hope they can provide enough cooling reserves during long hours of gaming. Will do more testing soon.

 

Nice new machine, Aikimox. Super review. +Rep.

 

where can i download lcd colour profiles?

 

It's recommended to make your own profile.
A pre-built profile from one panel will most likely show differently on another even if it's the same model.

 

all i can say is nice review and that is the best screen i ever saw

 

i am not running any benchmarks until they release the new NVbitor so i can flash the card

i want to see if this card can be pushed to a desktop GTX 465 clocks

 

forget the card for the time being...can you push the cpu???

 

I believe he sold his lappy.

 

That was a short lived love affair.

 

He's probably getting ready for the x7200.

 

I've reserved his x7200 when he's selling it 2 months after he's done playing with it.

 

^^ Yeah, a fully loaded x7200 for 1.8k would be sweet

 

I have a noob question!!
When using video drivers for the 285M or the 480M do I get the drivers from Nvidia or Sager.
Sager has 189 drivers and Nvidia has I think 256 or something.

 

^^^ Why not try them both. See which one gives you better performance.

Yep, two GTX480M themselves should be over 1.8 grand. LOL.

 

but we never got to know how the GTX480M performs at overclocked shaders/cores while increasing the voltages?
Speedy, I, all of us were waiting for that.

We all agreed the GPU had more potential to it; the factory settings are under-volted!

speedy u there?

 

He's sold his system

 

Waiting on Nibitor for the GTX480m, hope it comes out soon then we will see if we can push the card to the default gtx465 clocks.

 

yes i am here but i sold the clevo they release the nibitor software to support the GTX 480m after i sold the machine

nibitor 5.8 you have to donate on mvtech website on chipin program to get that version NVIDIA BIOS Editor (NiBiTor) v5.6 Software Released! :: mvk.tech :: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 285 275 260 ATI Radeon HD 4890 4870 4850 4830 :: MVKTech :: On the Edge of Technology

 

Now someone with a X7200 and GTX 480M has to install it and show us the performance of 980X paired with two desktop clocked GTX 480Ms... that laptop should perform better than the majority of gaming desktops