780M temps in P150SM, P157SM, P170SM, P177SM?

If you stay a release behind then that still contains the bugs for when that was released.

 

What's the last version that could run MineCraft's with shader mods? 320?

 

86° then the fan really kick in and it doesnt go higher, normal gaming is around 75-80°

 

Very true. Two strategies for that. One is by watching news or forums you hear about issues. Two, if I do hit a bug, then since it has been out a awhile it is very easy to google for possible fixes. And if I get desperate, I do have the option of the latest version.

 

Hey,

After repasting my GPU (780m) with IC-Diamond I dropped my temps by 8C on heavy load ! Also before I would hit 80C and over with furmark or unigine valley after 5 mins of benchmarking because my start temp would be already quite high. Now Im most of the time between 70C and 80C ! I should have taken photos but the 780M is really a tiny square and there was paste all over the heat sink (probably like 2mm thick...) and a lot around the GPU. I cleaned with artic cleaner and applied a tiny pea in the middle an reapply the heatsink. I played bf3 since and no more than 78C. My CPU is even higher on temps than the GPU now... I intend to repaste it too soon. Funnily after and before repasting, same settings, i increased my score by 50 in furmark and the GPU core recorded by furmark was 110Mhz lower after repasting, not sure if it has a meaning.

It was my first time and it is quite scary when you have never done it but it is quite hard to do something wrong so I recommend it to everyone.

 

Where did you order your laptop from that it was pasted like that?

 

I ordered my P150SM from pcspecialist.co.uk but they repasted (Artic MX-4) only the CPU. As far as I am aware, if you ask for a repaste they don't tell you it will be done only on the CPU, but they haven't confirmed that to me, so maybe I am wrong. The CPU temps is alright I guess but now that I repasted, my CPU temps are higher than the GPU so I will have a look at the job they ve done soon enough.

I guess since they built the laptop it was a very generic paste for the GPU, looked like silicone to me (grey/white color)... The 780M has a black rubber around it ->>( ) and mine was full of paste over and under it. and like I said the paste between the heatsink and the GPU was easily 2mm thick at some places.

When I compare the amount of IC diamond I put and the amount it was before I can explain the high temperature I used to have (mostly between 88C and 90C). I guess repasting is unfortunately something you should always redo even if you paid for it as it is too generic for manufacturers now.

 

MX-4 is a silver/grey. Always worth doing a re-paste yourself if you know how.

 

Just got my brand new heat sink but unfortunately there was no change in temps still hitting 94 and throttles ill will try repaste again but it didn't work with oem pad or arctic mx-4 anyone know a better thermal paste to try ?

 

Here is a Link to a Great Paste comparison Review Thermal Paste Comparison, Part Two: 39 Products Get Tested - 39 Thermal Compounds Get Benchmarked And Tested

They did test IC DIAMOND later and it is the second best paste after liquid metal!

Leserwunsch: Innovation Cooling Diamond 24 im Test - Einführung und Übersicht its in german but the Charts in the second page should be understandable


for me the temp went down ~10 ~15 C

 

If it didn't work with mx-4, and you are sure you didn't make a big mistake, then repasting won't help. You might see two degrees at most. One user in this thread tried repasting and it didn't help. They then bought a new heat sink, and that solved the issue.

 

Hey outthere! I just wanna share my insane results of changing to Liquid Pro termal paste..
I was running with Artic Silver 5 in my P170SM, and had these temps:
CPU: 80 MAX
GPU: 79 MAX

With the new paste :
CPU: 60-62 MAX
GPU: 71 MAX

Temps in room was about 20 degree
Coollaboratory Liquid Pro - the first heat conduction paste of 100% metall

 

Is it conductive and does it strip the etching off the die ?

 

It seems to corrode aluminium and being all metal I would say yes to conductive.

 

Im having the same problem with my 780m, temp goes up to 93 degrees.. I even repasted 3 times with no success.

 

When you repasted, are you sure you didn't use too much? Based on this thread, repasting helped most people. There was one person that fixed the over heat by replacing the heatsink. This assumes you see high heat in regular gaming, not benchmarks...

 

During when are you seeing 93C, thats a bit high during gaming but normal or stress test/burn in programs.

 

I have repasted like 6 times now, different amounts less/more and different ways of application. Feels like it doesnt have any effect at all.

Temp idles at 40, but when I open like a monitor program such as Furmark, or Nvidia Inspector which runs on the 780M it instantly goes to 60+, just by opening the program.
Been trying a few different things like Heaven benchmark, 3dmark demo (which i get horrible scores at), furmark that 720p benchmark, all of them puts the gpu at 93-94.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4900MQ,Notebook P17SM my score on Fire Strike

 

Silicon can heat up within milliseconds of loading due to the frequency so large jumps from idle to load are normal.

 

In Nvidia Inspector its says my BIOS version is 80.04.92.00.0A.
I saw 2 other posts from Scerate and odolino100 where they both have 80.04.92.00.02

Can that have any effects on my temps?

 

Has anyone got any updates on the temperature problem. I am using stock clocks on SVL7's Vbios and reaching 93 degrees. I ordered from PC specialist and applied thermal paste several times. Should I get a new heatsink and thermal pads? Where would I get them? My temperature coming out the back is hardly hot at all when at 90 degrees so I assume bad thermal conductivity.

Thanks

 

Yes, I would order a new heat sink. It worked for one person when the repasting didn't work. Maybe they will cover the heatsink under warranty. Try your retailer first, tell them the issue. I believe you can order from Sager directly.

 

Could you take the heatsink off and take a picture of the pattern left on the heatsink and chip before you clean off the paste?

 

I'm not sure that anyone will be interested, but I was testing Asus G750JH with 780M and at full load GPU stabilize at 86C (with ambient temp. 20C). It is just as info regarding same GPU chip. All details were maxed out in Metro2033, also in Furmark - same level of temperature. I did not overclock it though.

 

The cooling system in the Asus is quite different so it wont really apply to clevo models, that's quite high for an asus though.

 

I Went and ordered a new heatsink under warranty from pc specialist, they said they would send me one, but won't have stock until two weeks,I assume they are getting them from clevo or sager themselves, and are a new batch. Meaker I will try and get one soon, but the paste suggests it is perfectly level, if that's what your asking. Also I don't know much about these later generations of GPUs but is this normal?

This is at idle, everything fluctuates, the dip is when I opened chrome, Do you have any ideas? Could my GPU be faulty. This is the first gaming laptop I had also some thing else that concerns me is:
When V-sync is enabled the games sometimes stutter
also regardless of the settings, I get shadows that flash on and off, only on certain things, is this normal?

Thanks Guys

 

It looks like MSI is pinging your graphics card and "waking it up" which makes the clocks bounce around in idle.

 

Okay then so that is normal? It seems to act normal if MSI is open and im using the computer, It is only when MSI is only active.

Also what are your thoughts on my V-sync problem and flashing shadows?

 

i have P150sm with 780 had problem temps 94 degree playing war thunder online and bought a new h/s from clevo (goldstaruk) and 3 loops of heaven benchmark temp highest recorded was 73 degree and using stock clocks on SVL7's Vbios. will test with war thunder run game as normal 74 degree

 

So a new heat sink dropped the temps by 20 degrees? If so, that is a lot. And that would be the second time a new heat sink fixed high temps.

 

on the original H/S i did 3 re-pastes and it made no difference, so i did the washer mod had no affect still 93-4 degree . On this new H/S ive 4 fitted washers which directly pull down the copper heat sink when tightened down. IMO there needs to be a heat sink with a cross plate which pulls down over the hole heat sink above the gpu to give better surface contact. temps for cod ghost 74 and bf4 in ultra 69. For the money these laptops cost us to buy its a p*** take there heat sinks are so crap. You would think the after market world sell a new heat-sink and sell it as an upgrade someone could make a killing there i feel. rant over now.

 

It's still.a very niche market and it sounds like a heat pipe in your original sink was damaged.

 

Sounds like the heatsink was defective. Maybe a leak in a heat pipe. Sounds like the replacement is good though. I wonder if the washers are needed with the new heatsink.

 

Repasted again with the new heat sink and mx-4 paste now I only see temps of 88 tops I even covered the fan hole to force the temps up it throttled but when I let go they dropped back down quick



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Mine does this (PC Specialist Vortex IV). It doesn't do it all of the time (which is odd) but turning off MSI Afterburner cures the "issue". TBH I am not too fussed as I only require Afterburner when benching / gaming. Not having it running with the GPU @ idle isn't an issue for me.

My temps have stabilised over time to mid / high 80's. I am tempted to get a second heatsink through Goldenstar (UK) simply to have a spare. I need to get back into fiddling with my laptop as I havn't really used it properly since before Christmas. Xbone / PS4 and a VGA boxes for my Dreamcasts put paid to that.

 

I see you had temps of 92C before, so it helped. Also, 92C is where it does throttle, so it might have helped more than just four degrees. I assume you see this temp in a benchmark after letting it run a while, and regular gamingnis lower?

 

Yea I have it in fire strike extreme for about an hour and a half gaming is much lower except for BF 4 and witcher 2 and crysis 3 but they are high end so it's to be expected but I'll test them all today and see what i get


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Then 88C after an hour in the Firestrike benchmark is a decent temp. I think some temps posted in here are game temps, so they just seem lower. You could try underclocking to lower temps. I have the back of mine laptop raised up for better airflow.

 

An hour of fire strike is pretty intense, between gaming and furmark.

 

I am getting 93C in Farcry 3... I tried repasting from stock paste to Artic Silver. It helped for my cpu, but my 780m still hits 93C in Farcry 3. My unit is not over clocked in any way, andvit is still running stock bios and vbios. And I even have my P170SM raised up in the back for better airflow.

It is a shame I will have to spend even more money to buy a heat sink just to get it working like it should. Not to mention the concern about longevity, I was hoping to still be able to play these same games on it seven to ten years later.

 

The 780m is designed to run up to its thermal target but check the pads are correct and you can do the hot water test on the heat pipes.

 

I hit 93 in farcry also but it does not throttle I have noticed that if I lift the laptop off the table it goes back to 88 try raising the back it works for me

Has anyone modified the cover yet??? Pics if you have so I can try and copy it because I thinks that's all that is holding me back now



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Rather than modifying the back cover use bottle caps or anything under the rear feet to raise it up and keep temperatures low.

 

Yea I do that I was thinking about widening the holes a bit


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Just be aware of the warranty implications of that.

 

I have mine raised in the back by over an inch. It should have plenty of air. But I still hit 93C in Farcry 3, and even after repasting. I worry about longevity. I have a new gpu heatsink on the way. Let's hope that does the trick.

 

I bought a P170SM with the 780M last november and it reached 93ºC with every game I played on it (Skyrim, Bioshock Infinite, Planetside 2, Starcraft 2...).Last week I had to send the laptop to my reseller (Mountain, its a spanish one) due to a dead pixel. A few days after I´ve send it they called me telling that one ram socket wasn´t working properly (they test the laptop after any technical service) and gave me a new laptop .The one they gave me seems to be a new version of the barebone as it has a new finguerprint reader and a diferent power button. After a few days using it now I get only 74ºC after an hour of playing Skyrim and in heaven benchmark the max temp it reaches is 82ºC.

I think its obvious a design problem with the heatpipes or something more that has been solved. Try contacting your reseller to see if they can send you a new heatpipe for the gpu cause it seems to be the solution (at least for me).

 

If it just hits 93C constantly then yes it's a paste or heatsink issue.

 

It shouldn't hit 93C in Skyrim. Maybe it was the heatsink.

Can you post a picture of the computer showing the power button and fingerprint reader? Are the speakers different, or the keyboard layout different? I think the next models will have more color choices for the keyboard backlighting. Does yours?

 

P157SM (Sager NP8255-S) on a laptop stand (passive, no fan), in a 65°F room typically reaches 85-88°C GPU temperature under full load. System is equipped with IC Diamond thermal paste.

--DragonLord