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    7970m Logging Thread, Games with Utilization Issues (Only post logs, NO questions please)

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Exposed88, Aug 7, 2012.

  1. Coca

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    "At the request of AMD the driver has been taken offline. They discovered some bugs " dats funny xD Enduro hotfix coming soon 2013 ;)
     
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    I will wait, "they" said AMD is realeasing it today bug-free. But thanks ! :)
     
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    Good question. This package probably does not come with the intel drivers.

    The question is :

    - Do we install catalyst 12.11 over stock driver?

    - Do we download the intel driver separately, install it first and then the CCC 12.11?

    - Or we should wait sager/clevo awakes from deep sleep and release a complete package (catalyst 12.11 + intel)?
     
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    That would be a dream come true.
     
  7. mahalsk

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    Great news guys. I just tested the leaked driver. I knew what I should do right away to see an improvement immediately. F1 2011 benchmark was so heavy affected that it ran 32 fps no matter what resolution I choose or what settings.
    Now I loaded the benchmark maxed out 8x aa and fps from 60-70. However msi afterburner wont let me see usage and clocks like before even with kombuster on and set to high performance.
    For those trying to install it heres what I did. I came from the 12.9 bete where you had to install the intel driver first and than the amd driver, so I just uninstalled the amd and installed the new one, works no problem, except I cant see the temperature nor the clocks.

    For those who have other drivers :
    1, uninstall amd driver, restart. If it dindt uninstall the intel driver, uninstall that one as well.
    2, Some say that driver sweeper deletes some important files, so for those ho dont wanna use driver sweeper do this :
    how to properly uninstall ATI/AMD Software Drivers for Graphics Cards.
    But from my personal exmperience , I never had any problems with driver sweeper
    restart
    3, check device manager and display adapters, you should have two standard vga adapters, one with an exclamation mark, If not uninstall them through device manager and restart again
    4 download the intel hd driver from intel page and install it
    restart
    5, install the asders 12.11 leaked driver or wait for the release that should be here any time now.
    restart
    6, If you find out how to monitore ussage and clocks let my know :)

    I didnt try any other game, jut this one to see right away if somethings fixed, and reported .
    will try other games and report back.

    EDIT: just tested bf 3 caspian border 64p. much much better. Put everything from low to ultra right away and didnt drop below 36 fps even in heavy gunfight and explosions. in normal combat ultra around 45 fps.!!!!!!!!! even more. On high medium no problem to maintain constant 60..
     
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    Thanks for the tutorial!

    I'm very optimistic. 32 fps is a huge difference!
    I'll take the opportunity to format my hd and install windows again. I want to make sure everything works perfectly :)

    In the coming days I´ll test Max Payne 3 (performance was horrible) and Battlefield 3 (huge FPS drops)
     
  9. littlecx

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    that afterburner not showing clock and temp means cannot overclock?
     
  10. mahalsk

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    No I cant, its showing 0 at core clock and memory. I would like to see also if overcocking will gain performance. Before it just led lower gpu ussage.
     
  11. failwheeldrive

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    So stoked. The fixed release needs to come online NAO.
     
  12. sheldorconqueror

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    what's the link for the intel igpu?
    I need to reinstall it .
    Is it the version 15.26.12.64.2761 ?
     
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    not good " your computer doesn't meet the requirement"

    what about this version : 15.​26.​12.​64.​2761
    for 3rd Generation Intel® Core™ Processors with Intel® HD Graphics 4000/2500
    This is what we have right ? p150em
    http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Sea...4000/2500&ProdId=3498&LineId=1101&FamilyId=39
     
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    Sorry I don't have a before. But it was around 34fps
    Sleeping Dogs
    2012-10-22_00001.jpg
     
  19. Stormsight

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    12.11 increased my 3dmark11 score from P5800 to P6636
    but diablo 3 performance looks worse now, much more freezes, and also msi afterburner doesn't display GPU details anymore as previously stated
     
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    Hey guys, i must be doing something wrong... I installed the driver with a clean method as sugested by mahalsk (not installed the hd4000 driver, im keping the version 8.951.6.0, did not find a compatible new one). I am having the same !*@#ing FPS before the patch on battlefield 3 multiplayer with 64 player, but this time i cant even check the utilization... Maybe its because of the hd4000 driver? I cant change the "low, medium, high" performance from catalyst control center as before neither. Any thoughts? Any help will be apreciated. Sorry for my bad english and thanks, im really desperate to make this thing work right.
     
  21. Zymphad

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    I'm getting 70-100 FPS now in MP3. I'm liking this 12.11 a lot.
     
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    NVM guys, figured out that the problem really was with the hd4000... just installed the driver hulawafu77 posted and now it works like a boss :)
    Battlefield 3 is so beautifull on ultra \o/
     
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    Dude, Battlefield 3 is running so much better.
     
  24. sheldorconqueror

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    what's your setting ?
    I can't get more than 60 fps in every games
     
  25. columbosoftserve

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    Do you have v-sync off...?
     
  26. Hurricane9

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    Amazing improvement in BF3, my rough preliminary benchmark showed a 45% improvement.

    Hopefully I will be able to try out Crysis soon.
     
  27. spettow

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    Indeed.
    MUCH better.

    --------
    Here my test
    Battlefield 3 - Caspian Border (64 players - 5 minutes, infantry, few explosions)
    1920x1080 High settings (not ultra) with vsync ON: Minimum fps: 40 Average Fps: 57

    --------

    I have not decided if I will run on high or ultra.
     
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    I run it on low, gets rid of all the idiotic bloom, lense flare and other stupidness that DICE thinks is good lighting or realistic. DICE employees must never go outside and only see through a horrible camera.
     
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    The lense flare is supposed to be from the glasses, to my knowledge.
     
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    Is utilisation going to improve with future updates? I realise this driver is quite a step up but I still only average about 85-87% utilisation in BF3 multi. I want to get all the juice outa my card.

    Edit: Just played a round on Oman and utilisation was around 65%...... when are they going to actually iron out the problem properly
     
  31. littlecx

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    I wonder if they need to fix this issue game by game
     
  32. columbosoftserve

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    I really hope that is not the case.

    Edit: Also I've found v-sync doesn't work in most games I try to enable it with. Something to report to AMD, let's hope the next driver is even better than this one, especially re: utilisation in BF3.
     
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    you should try sweet fx...
     
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    Now that the driver is out, I wonder if all the hilarious flame wars between 7970m haters and supporters are going to end now... I sure hope not :D
     
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    how do you check your utilization? I thought this driver broke that capability in afterburner. also, you may have v synch on which would limit you to 60fps therefore reducing your utilization. again, awesome driver, especially for BF3 - finally it feels like I am playing on a card that is a generation up from 6970m.
     
  36. columbosoftserve

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    Nope, don't have v-sync on. I'm using HWiNFO64 to monitor temps and utilisation. BF3 only hits about 80-90% most of the time. However the stable framerate for the most part is quite noticeable. It just sucks knowing it can theoretically squeeze out more performance, as there are times where the framerate really starts to dip (especially in Oman etc where it usually sits around 60%). Sleeping Dogs usually sits around 50-60% with FPS of about 40-45. Hitman sniper challenge still suffers a poor framerate, though nowhere near as bad as it was. Haven't checked utilisation for that yet. I think overall the most noticeable change is with BF3 and even then it still doesn't use the full potential of the card. An easy way to tell with this driver that your card is not being taxed to its full potential is to just listen to the GPU fan. It usually doesn't go that crazy, meaning the card isn't being pushed very hard. I am happy that we finally have a (somewhat) proper driver, however I was expecting a bit more. I don't get how Nvidia can have their card hit 97-99% the majority of the time if they both use the same sort of technology?? Am I missing something?
     
  37. mahalsk

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    I can confirm this, played a game on gulf of oman and it was stil unplayeble . fps around 30's on what ever settings and dips down to low 20's.
     
  38. SStaged

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    HWiNFO64 gpu load readings are identical to Afterburner's. Just verified myself. So folks who are having issues with Afterburner with these new drivers, HWiNFO64 is a great alternative.

    HWiNFO64 Download

    Extremely happy for 7970m owners that these new drivers are out.
     
  39. TrantaLocked

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    I cannot see GPU usgae in HWiNFO64.
     
  40. SStaged

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    Hey there,

    Launch HWiNFO64 and click on the yellow bolt sensors button.

    GPU load readings are in the second to last section when scrolling down. Look for GPU Core Load.
     
  41. columbosoftserve

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    On top of the still present under-utilisation, is anyone experiencing games crashing often?
     
  42. failwheeldrive

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    So how are you feeling about the card now? Still want to sell it and buy a 680m like you've said in the past?
     
  43. failwheeldrive

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    I'm only noticing extremely light under-utilization; it's leaps and bounds ahead of before. The lowest I have seen is 85% is BF3.
    as for crashes, I was getting them earlier when trying to overclock with afterburner. I've since stopped trying and it hasn't crashed since.
     
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    Hmm interesting. Quite often when I open up a game, namely BF3; Max Payne 3 and a couple of others, the game will stop responding and I have to end the process. Starting to become a little bit frustrating.
     
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    Clevo P150EM , Windows 7 x64 - 12.11 beta CCC not works for me , no Enduro settings , BSODS... clean and not clean install same result... :confused:
     
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    Sounds like the problems that Anandtech had first."Update: I had to uninstall the AMD drivers, reboot, reinstall AMD's drivers, reboot, and then reinstall Intel's iGPU drivers. Then things worked more or less properly."
     
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    Do you guys think the BIOS version affects these drivers in any way?
     
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    yeah it actually feels like a flagship card now and not just a 10-20% improvement over previous gen offerings. I would still like to swap my laptop for something else without switchable gfx support + 680m so I can OC the LCD and get something with better speakers / soundcard. Currently only MSI provide 15.6 inch laptops that do 680m and I cant find any in UK yet, but hopefully they will become available here soon.
     
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    Can you try running throttlestop and untick BD PROCHOT. I tried Oman map earlier this morning with only 30-40 players and my fps was pretty stable. Lowest it hit was 30 when I was zooming through smoke, this is with an OC of 980mhz/1.5ghz.
     
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    Catalyst control center has stopped working........ Uninstall, reboot, reinstall, reboot does not work..... the Anandtech way, your way , my way...... nothing.....
    Can someone wawe their magic wand at me ?

    Tried SWTOR anyway, and with with everything maxed at 1080p I get at least +25fps!!

    I shut down the game, and try to open catlyst....... " Catalyst Control Center has stopped working"...... Is this because of old profiles or files or what the f... is this?
     
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