7970m Logging Thread, Games with Utilization Issues (Only post logs, NO questions please)

Same for me. I managed to get it working on my first reboot and everything was working fine, DX11 games running better too. But now after every reboot I get BSODs on an atikmpag.sys file.

I've tried several installation methods suggested in this forum and I keep getting this BSOD when I restart.

(I'm on a Clevo P150EM)

 

interesting, didn't know you could get the 680 without optimus. sounds pretty cool. assuming it will be a while until the new gpus are out, that would be a cool upgrade. it would just be lame if nvidia came out with a 685 or the 780 not long after buying a new laptop with 680 lol.

happy to hear you're able to enjoy it now; they're off to a really good start with the new driver, and I hope they improve things further.

 

Only thing I can think of is using the old catalyst with the new driver..... 12.9 Catalyst Control Center + the new driver.
Here's what I did - right or wrong:
- uninstall all amd software
- reboot
- install the new 12.11 package
- reboot
- uninstall hd 4000 drivers
- reboot
- install intel drivers

After this the 7970m drivers seem to work, but catalyst reports shutdown......

 

This didn't work, it resulted in a BSOD... ended up doing it in that order but had to install the Intel driver in safe mode.

Update: installing both drivers in this order made no difference. The problem persists.. and is actually more prevalent. Now BF3 crashes every time when it opens. Hopefully it will be fixed in the WHQL release.

I will try this when I get a sec. I am thinking it probably will not make a difference however, as it looks to still be GPU under-utilisation.

 

BSODs , not working CCC, not working driver12.11 confirmed on 5 laptops P150EM. All with windows 7 x64. super sad )

 

ah that reminds me, I've had to install the AMD driver twice after I wiped everything with Driver Sweeper. The first time it installed everytime I launched a 3d application it would fail. If I remember correctly the order in which I installed everything was:

Uninstall AMD drivers via Add / Remove panel
Remove all AMD files via driver sweeper
Reboot
Update Intel driver to the latest one
Reboot
Install AMD driver
reboot
Install AMD driver again (because all 3d applications seemed to crash)
reboot.

 

Talk about underutilization, for me it is no utilization. I finally got it working , tried to set a 3d profile, and the ccc crashed gain......

 

I just installed the beta drivers over my stock ones. Zero issues.

 

I have the bleeding thing up and running now. very nice results so far, but still crashing if I try to apply a new profile for SWTOR. Anyone know where the catalyst profiles are stored ?

How is it possible that the old profile is still being used, the profile from 12.8 ?? I have done cclean driver sweeper, windows fixit........ where are the profiles stored ? catalyst says I have no profiles, but when I try to make a new profile where I used to have one it tells me I have one and then it crashes.....

 

Even on a clean install of windows, I got BSODs on startup. I tried various ways to install the drivers, multiple versions of the Intel drivers...the only thing that worked for me with no BSODs whatsoever, was to install the stock drivers (click on stock AMD, which will also install the Intel drivers), then install the 12.11beta on top of stock drivers WITHOUT restarting the computer between installing stock drivers and the beta drivers. Afterwards, everything works fine (however, my WEI is down to 7.2 from 7.3 prior).

 

Yesterday everything was working fine, today i turn on my computer, start to play battlefield 3, and the utilization problem is back... ?????? I dont know what to do, instaled the latest intel driver and a clean instal for the 12.11... Everything is set to high performance on CCC.
Just me having this issue? Guess i will have to wait another 3 months for a fix to the fix..... lol

 

Well i missed it! So whats the best way to install this drivers?
From what i read it seems its better to just install these new beta on top of old versions??? i have er stock stock and i have 12.8. I think u have never upgraded my intel drivers.

whats the deal then?

its encouraging to read everyones findings, even if some are having some typical driver issues..

 

Stock AMD, stock Intel. Installed over. No crashes, currently playing Sleeping Dogs at 50+ FPS.

 

I still get quite a bit of under utilisation with Sleeping Dogs. This card should be able to max it out but instead I get about 40 FPS average when driving through the streets. Waaaa I wish they would just fix it all properly.

Cheers, I'll give this a go. It's seemed to have come good though, the drivers are just a bit temperamental. Sometimes it happens, sometimes not now.

As for BF3, I understand and appreciate that the framerate is a lot better than it was, however this card is definitely capable of putting more frames out. So my question is: now that AMD have released this driver do you think they will continue to improve the under-utilisation with directx 11 titles? Or will they just let it go by the wayside? I know I want my card to run to it's full potential like the 680m does. Everyone should use HWiNFO64 to monitor utilisation and temps etc.

 

Lower your AA. At "extreme" AA, I get sub-30FPS, at high, I get 45-60, and off I get 50+. I leave it on high. Also this is without the texture pack.

 

My AA is off is already completely off... fact is this fix is not quite complete it seems. As much as I am happy that framerates are more stable across the board, I was really hoping for better GPU utilisation. In most cases it still is not being used to its full potential when v-sync is off.

 

I have neither. At least in the games I play, which is just dandy by me. But I expect further improvements to be incoming very soon, especially for DX9. Which will be welcome since all the UE3 crud games are DX9 and if they do have DX11, it's implemented as if DX11 was feces.

 

Since i have never had issues with my card, besides meassuring some underutilization, i will probably wait for official non beta release, hearing so many people getting BSOD and such really scares me off, and my playability is so good that i really cannot complain.

Will see what i do, still this is the great news we all were waiting for, i am so glad reason prevailed and bad omens crushed. AMD IS and will be improving these drivers as stated repeatedly in anandtech and other forums.

I am happier every day with my 7970M

cheers

Voz

 

quick question for Battlefield 3 addicted soldiers.

after fix applied,

BF3 ,1920x1080,

Texture quality - Ultra
Shadow Quality - Low
Effects Quality - Low
Mesh Quality - Ultra
Terrain Quality - Ultra
Terrain Decoration - Ultra
Antialiasing Deferred - Off
Antialiasing Post - Off
Motion Blur - Off
Antisotropic Filter 16x
Ambient Occlusion Off
Motion Blur Amount Off
Field of View 75

How many Frames can handle at Noshahr canals ?

 

I went from the stock Sager driver to the beta, following this clean install method (doesn't use driver sweeper) Guide: How To Completely Uninstall AMD Graphics Drivers - Bright Side Of News*

Afterburner doesn't work correctly anymore, and I got a couple bsods while trying to apply an overclock the day before yesterday. Other than that, everything has been stable and gaming performance is WAY up I haven't had any more issues with bsods or crashing of any kind since I stopped using afterburner.

 

I found anothrer problem with the 12.11b4 driver With battlefield 3. Almost every time I wanna join a server, once a game is loaded bf3.exe stops working and I have to try again. Somethimes it takes 10 tryes to start the game.
Anybody having this problem ??

 

Nope but then I wasn't mixing driver files either.

 

It was also before i misex them, right after the 12.11 came out. I did a clean install and this started to happen. I can still play, but somethimes it takes like 10 tryes to connect properly to a server, before it conected and loaded every time.

 

Well, I think that optimism was exaggerated.
Battlefield 3 runs much better, but other games don´t.

There was no improvement in max payne 3. Underutilisation issue remains.
With all specs maxed out, i got only 35 FPS average, with huge FPS drops (unduro-off machines with 7970m run it at 60 FPS)
L.A Noire is also experiencing underutilisation problems

 

Max Payne 3 is one of the games that wasn't really affected by Enduro much to begin with. Something is wrong on your end. I was playing dx11 at near 60FPS most of the time on stock drivers. Also from what I can tell, most games that run in dx9 weren't changed with this update while dx11 games were. But then again, they also stated this in the driver update and that dx9 performance would be coming in a later driver.

 

I downloaded drivers before 2 days but didn't install them because of my mid term exam. But I just installed them now and Wow , huge difference in BF3 , saint row 3 and these games I tried so far. Anyway for those people saying they didnt get difference in fps , its probably because you didn't remove all ati drivers , and some of them functioned with new driver files which they carry the under-utlilization problem . Here is how to un-install driver properly:

1. install driver fusion (google it)
2. un-install ati driver, make sure its express
3. now boot in safe mode, launch driver fusion > select amd , inttel > click clean.
4 . if some files didn't clean at first try, restart and do step 3 again. if they are still some file didn't clean leave them this time .
5. now on safe mode follow these instruction from this website:
how to properly uninstall ATI/AMD Software Drivers for Graphics Cards.

6. restart windows normally.
7. install newest in driver from here ( follow instruction):
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/693523-intel-hd-graphics-9-17-10-2867-a.html

8. reboot

9. go to amd site intall the latest 12.11 beta 4 (note: when cat 12.11 it had some bugs so amd pulled from their site temporarily to fix them and they posted again , so you might have the bugged driver) + install 12.10 cap 1.

10. you might experiences bsod 2-3 times just like me after installation. I noticed that in problem might be from catalyst power selection application profile , its trying too assign programs power include explorer + antivirus so it bsod. I restarted 3 times and worked flawlessly after that

 

Then don't know. BF3 is the game that this 12.11 seems to have most affect on. There are desktop users who are getting 90 FPS on Ultra on a single card with this driver, people are seeing 40% increase in performance. It's incredible. I also played a few rounds myself and didn't have issue.

 

i dunno what you people are smoking but bf3 still run like crap for sure , im still getting 20fs at high ground in Sharqi Peninsula map , 7970m is officially a pos

 

some maps still run poorly in terms of utilization, but there is a significant improvement in fps on most areas. This is still a beta so lets hope a proper fix is on the way.

 

lol your computer is officially broken or you officially don't know how to install a driver. fail.

 

Yes the performance is much better, just it takes sometimes 10 tryes to start a game and not crash, so im trying to find out if somebody else is having this problem. But yeah, maybe its only my system and origin screwed.

@chuckles87

While performance is much better than before, and more consistant-close quarters maxed 60 fps all the time, also maps like caspian and vanila maps, but sharqi and gulf of oman still suffer from underutilization with dips down to 25-ish fps. However Im much more calm now that I see that its fixable and its getting better.
Keep up the good work AMD:thumbsup:

 

no need to be an arrse if what he says is in fact true. If what he says is not true then call him out on it and prove him wrong by doing a youtube vid where your fps does not drop to sub 30 levels on that same map / scene...

 

Haha, you remind me of someone. HellScream with his G73JH. He complained and whined about it everyday for months and kept saying how superior a Clevo was. Far as I know, he just kept on using his G73JH and kept on complaining. Have you sourced a 680M yet? Or better yet, an Alienware? You really shouldn't keep a machine that angers you so much, doesn't make sense to do so.

 

i thought you put me on ignore? or is that just something you say when start losing an argument... also, where in the post you quoted did i complain about anything?

 

lol I'm not wasting my time making a video when a bunch of other people here have confirmed it runs at 60 fps for them on 12.11.

 

Hey man, i was having your problem too, the enduro fix was not working... After thousands of installations, i did what king601 posted, and now its working... Try it

 

I have the same problem with bf3 as you. I have to satrt it few times to finally be able to play. I rolled back to 12.8. I think ill wait for stabe drivers.

 

You should not be getting 60FPS in BF3 at Ultra+4xMSAA+Max AA and AF. The 7970m is naturally not that powerful. Turn down MSAA (and especially MSAA, as that can really hinder performance), AA and AF to off/low levels and FPS should be pretty decent and an improvement over stock drivers. I didn't notice much of a visual difference, so I stay with those selections at low levels.

 

I run at 50-60 fps with everything maxed aside from aa. I only run 2x MSAA. Unless it's a really heavy firefight, framerates stay stuck at 60 with v-sync on.

 

When I have 12.11 going, everything ultra/maxed except for blur turned down but now off - I average 50-60 fps. In intense situations the lowest fps I saw was 39!!!!! And thats from going back to my log - not just from me catching it out of the corner of my eye!

 

you probably didn't un-install driver properly . Look at my post which is above your post and see the instruction on how to un-install.

 

Good logging utility by AMD!:
AMD System Monitor
Why didn't we see this before? Thanks to king-dubs at rage3d for posting a screenshot revealing this. Yes, it is properly recording GPU usage!

I might start using this monitor more. It records CPU and GPU together, some thing I can't get to happen with HWiNFO64 since it doesn't display GPU usage for me.
The AMD System Monitor records CPU usage and speed per thread (8 threads), GPU usage, GPU memory/core clocks, and GPU temperatures. It appears to record a new value every second or two.

 

Dayam, this looks like a handy tool. Now it can be proven to all the non-believers that the card is still not being utilised properly. To clarify: I previously owned a 580m which I gave to my brother. I am seeing the same sort of framerates as him on most maps in BF3. Obviously, performance has been improved with this driver but there is still a way to go yet before it is optimal. Have to wait and see what AMD comes out with next in the WHQL release but my suspicions are that we will continue to see the card not performing at its peak for a while yet...

Also, do you know if we're able to get an overlay with this tool? Doesn't seem to be an option for it.

 

I don't believe there is an overlay, but I am sure Afterburner will be updated soon.

Also, check this out:
AMD Never Settle 12.11 Beta Driver Performance Testing | 3DMark11
The HD 7870 increased to P7600. What the hell! The HD 7870 was scoring 6600 to 6800 pre-12.11, and when the 7970m got bumped to 6600 with 12.11 I was all yay, HD 7870 performance! Nope, I guess the 7970m really isn't as close to the HD 7870 as I thought! I am guessing that the HD 7850 got bumped up as well.

 

this latest driver increased performance across current gen AMD cards - mobile or desktop. my friends m17x with 7970m is seriously fast now... my one is still a bit behind.

 

Did you run the benchmark with the same clock? Overclock your 7970M to 1000 core. Also everything on mobile I think run at lower voltage, including the GDDR5.

I don't see why NBR keep thinking these mobile cards exactly the same when their desktop counterpart consume so much more power.

 

I don't know if any of you guys play Minecraft, but the utilization issue in Minecraft and java is still the same. At best I only get around 30% utilization, with all settings to high, I get around 100fps, but then utilization falls below that and it becomes slow sometimes, falling under 20fps. Anybody solved this?

 

This driver only affects DX11 applications. DX9 driver coming in the future.

 

Getting really bad utilization in guild wars 2, the new 12.11 drivers fixed BF3 for me but guild wars lags like a snail , max usage is like 60% for me ...

Low settings dropped to 20% usage...

 

+1 to strange white artifacts in Skyrim. They aren't that annoying though, just a little interesting.