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    970M to 1070?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Godfather Ezio, Aug 22, 2016.

  1. Meaker@Sager

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    MXM was originally envisioned to allow manufacturers to create many SKUs with a single motherboard and reduce the costs of repair in the event of a failure. Note that people have always been able to upgrade within a series so 1060 owners this time round will be able to move up.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Aug 27, 2016
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  2. Brent R.

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    Well by the looks of your name you work for Sager so you have to say that, I don't except you to agree with me at least in a professional manor maybe in a personal one tho lol
     
    Brent R., Aug 27, 2016
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    I guess you have never or will never run a business.

    I happen to have worked on Wall Street for a investment bank and run my own ebay business. A business can not just satisfy a small portion of any market or group if they want to survive and Nvidia is trying to survive. Things are going into small and smaller everything, the only way to get smaller and smaller is by integrating everything into a single motherboard.

    And dont think they can afford it all because you say so.
     
    yotano21, Aug 27, 2016
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    that has nothing to do with whats going on now....all the new 1060 1070 1080's are MXM format and removeable they just don't fit the standard MXM 3.0b and have extra power...so I don't really see what your point was...
     
    Brent R., Aug 27, 2016
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    If I right they all is standard mxm 3.0 and only 1070 & 1080 request extra powersupply

    Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
     
    Doctor JO, Jan 15, 2017
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    Worth noting, nobody has really contributed to the MXM spec/SIG for a LONG time. It was only updated (in name only honestly) to acknowledge the existence of PCIE3. It wouldn't surprise me if PCIE 4.0 causes MXM to be dropped entirely in favour of completely custom designs. Then we'll be in the wild west!

    Right now, the only thing partners stick to is the mounting holes and pin-outs (and even then, ASUS broke the GPIO spec a while back...).

    The reason you see all the current modified MXM cards is because the official spec is only rated to 10A. On a 12V feed that gives you 120W (which was broken by both NV and AMD at the height of their competition to 1-up eachother). Technically you can feed up to 20V through the MXM lines but there'd be some serious voltage drop and you'd need much beefier VRMs for voltage step-down. It'd also complicate board design further as most GPUs and their power delivery are designed around 12V supply (as in desktops).

    Fact is, it's a thoroughly out-dated spec now and since AMD have basically given up the mobile market (their perf/watt is just too far behind) Nvidia and their partners will do whatever they need to make things happen. It's the lesser evil when compared to being hamstrung to the original 120W spec....
     
    Stooj, Jan 15, 2017
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    Are there any other options for upgrading the 970M or 980M in, say, a Clevo p750dm laptop? If not Nvidia, maybe AMD? Or is 980M far as one can go at this point?
     
    Raulk, Jun 24, 2017
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    sicily428 Donuts!! :)

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    sicily428, Jun 24, 2017
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    the zotac and gecube 1070s are missing a bunch of VRMs at the top....not good IMO.
     
    thegh0sts, Jun 24, 2017
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    Has anyone tried either the zotac 1070 or gecube 1070 in a clevo model that wasn't designed for Pascal?
     
    MKazmer, Jul 14, 2017
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    gecube is busted as f**k so don't even bother with that.
     
    thegh0sts, Jul 15, 2017
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  12. Meaker@Sager

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    More half populated phases have plus points and minus points.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jul 18, 2017
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