9800M GTX Thread

Hey guys. I used the stock drivers on my 9800M GTX and got 9700+ in 3dmark06. When i used latest driver from laptopvideo2go and ran 3dmark again I got 6700!? I am not sure what happened. I am surprised that a driver would make such a large difference. I got 4k+ on my CPU so that isnt the problem.

What driver is the best for gaming since that is what I will use it for? Any info would be helpful.

 

Use the new official Nvidia laptop driver, 179.28. It's made specifically for all 8M and 9M series graphics cards, and it allows software overclocking (finally!) via nTune system tools.

Note 64-bit driver linked above. General page with all flavors here.

 

I got the new driver and it is amazing! Thanks Kevin Jack! I almost got 11k on 3dmark06. I would add a pick of my results but it isnt workin. Can you guys tell me how to put one in?
Anyway I got 10948.

 

now that score sounds more like right! and you will break 11k before the end of the night.

 

I gave up on 3dmark06 for benching. The scores varied wildly from 10020 to 10200. I have settled for Vantage which seems to me to be optimum for benching, at least for now. With my P8600 the systems scores about 6356 with little variation from 6340 to 6380 (just for the record).

Edit: 180.84 drivers OC: 600/870/1600

 

yeah, ill be over for that record in an hour...
nice score by they way!!

 

Found increased stability by running the 0617 @ a core:shader ratio of 1:2.5 and the 0608 at 1:2.75. Been able to clock higher holding to that ratio

 

yes, glad to know my skill sets are rubbing off on others. well done!

 

what settings/resolution are you guys playing Crysis on smoothly?

 

i dont even over clock to play crysis.. just run 1920x1200 high and that's about it.

 

i keep trying to tell you guys.... it's not always about how high you can over clock, but what you can get out of your over clock. and your dual card over clocks are not the same as your single cards. and that goes for vista as well. they each have their limits and one high over clock does not fit all.... im running at around 16.6k for windows xp right now and 16k on vista. trying to figure out what drops the 2.0 and cpu score in vista. also, did you look at my dual core score lordirfall?

do you have any other runs other than your single card run? vista @ 1920/1280 and any updated xp runs. also all these runs under 3dvantagemark.

i keep telling people we haven't seen what these cards can really do. for that 1100 dollar price tag, they can do quite a bit, but we are limited at the cpu right now. since we cant over clock cpu, we can only go so far. with cpu over clocking, we could easily clear 18k....but that is of course...another can of worms...lol

 

nah, got mine from rjtech.com and i built most of it myself. i too had a bad card in the beginning that hinderd my whole scoring process. and they will still run 10 degrees different from time to time. that part is more along the lines of choosing the right sli mode for the job. and you can switch the cards from daughter to master slot to see if it is in fact the card or the slot itself. i did all these things before sending mine in, but it also flickered when running sli mode.

 

i do have an extreme cpu. and for the sake of this laptop. they are pretty much the same chip, but when put in my desktop.. it becomes the full extreme chip it was meant to be. it cost me the same price as getting a q9650 so i got the extreme instead. and it's not confusing 3dmark. because i have your chip as well in my desktop at the moment. and it gets a lower cpu score without over clocking. but over clock it and the score goes up. as for the temps... usually idle sits around 31/31/41/41 during usage and no usage 31/31/32/32

 

nope, just my nzxt setup is all. and that really isn't needed unless im tring to run the system through the ringer.

these things have a humongous heat sink if you open it up and look. it's in two parts so to speak.

 

yep, with added rear fans for exhaust extraction.
my setup is running about 11 fans total. this includes the four in the computer itself.

 

i think they average around 50 to 60, but ill check it out in a few and maybe 60 to 70 without a cooler. under serious stress

 

that's a big negative. there was some guy running around here saying he got it to work and all this and that, but never posted anything. never showed anyone that it really worked. had no benchmarks to back or prove anything. many people have tried, but none have succeeded except for this one guy that never proved anything. so im going to say. no it cant be done. and i talked to clevo by way of sager and the answer is still no. they are not modifying the bios. and the original bios maker isn't modding it either.
i have been checking wattage and this thing jumps around 220 + watts while running serious benchmarks, so i can see why they wont do it. even though the temps are pretty low under load on these extremes...

 

hey guys, can I ask how GTA IV performs with the 9800M GTX?

I know it's a CPU heavy game, but still I want to know about the 9800M GTX.

 

exactly! we have way more room to climb. this is basically a mini desktop. so the cpu could be over clocked to the specs of a real desktop....now staying up and running or under low heat conditions is something else all together..lol

 

Hi guys,

Does anyone have a 0617 stock BIOS? I can't find one anywhere.

 

pin mod wont work. already tried it. reason why... we are capped at 1333 mhz. now if it we're opened up to 1600 mhz then we could pin mod up.

 

Many Many Thanks!

EDIT: You guys should try the new 185.20 drivers from Nvidia. They boosted my Vantage score by more than a 100.

 

185.20?
100 points huh?
edit: dammn, im only 400 points behind that i7/gtx280 in the gpu score for vantage.

 

Hahaha, you rock johnksss, you keep squeezing your notebook for every bit of performance.

Alright, it looks to me that using the stock 0617 bios without the modified timmings is much much better. Before that the memory frequency could not go beyond 870 Mhz, Vista would start acting funny, sometimes the desktop would go blank, etc. Now I can go beyond that.

Note:
I am trying to overclock for gaming so I need a stable overclock that doesn't overheat my notebook. Just to give you an example: running COD WaW for 4 hours got the GPU as high as 86 C altough it usually stayed at 81C.

Does anyone know what should I use if I do not heavily overclock: the 0608 or the 0617 BIOS? I have a M570 .

EDIT: Looks like I was wrong after half an hour of stressing the video card with absolutely now issues I just went browsing and the system just crashed.

 

Remember scores with PhysX don't count!

 

Alright, thanx a lot for the tip, I will stick to the 0617.

Here is my issue now, maybe someone can help.

When I clock the memories to 870 everything is fine, above that things go wild.
But what I find it wierd is that if I clock them to 875 benching and gaming work fine is in 2d desktop mode that they crash. I have tried them with either 0617 or 0608 BIOS and it's the same story: at some point the desktop starts to artifact and than the system either freezes or crashes. Any ideas?

EDIT:

After 2 days of GPU torture I came up to withthe final GPU clocks and BIOS for my 9800M. Here are the results: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=339589

I've settled for the 0617 BIOS with Voltage set to 1.0 Clocks: 610/1550/865 - got 6450 in Vantage with Physics turned on. I think that should be pretty good for gaming.

 

for future reference...before you go claiming records...you'll need to do them in vista and not xp. nothing personal...that's like me running at 800x600 in windows 98 claiming i did something. *LOL*

|3DMark06 15,888 | NOOC 15,154 | Single Card 13,566| 14,864 @ 1920x1280 - record
| NP9262 | Q9550 | 9800M GTX/SLI | 4GB DDR3 | Raid0 2x250GB + 250GB | XP Pro x86/Vista Bus x86
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ps...you don't have that record either...

also, i didn't see any vantage runs by you yet?? come on man, help fill up the scoring before the new clevos hit the market. i see your a "pro user"

neither do xp...

 

I will edit the memory timings of my 9800M GTX to get higher memoryclock. But which timingset is the active used? (1 to 7) ... i edited timingset 7, but no chances. At 950 MHz all runs fine... 50 MHz more and it crashes after a few seconds in 3Dmark. I will get 1000 MHz!!!

I use bios 0617 with modified timings from emike09

 

your going to need to start with your own stock settings first.
the new 9800m gtx with newer bios is something like timingset 7 for stock or at least it is on a d901c
the fastest stock timingset is timingset 4
the temp of your room and starting temps of your card play a heavy role in your performance as well.
and your marks for 3dmark06 are far better using the drivers 176.09 or 176.25 than any new driver can offer. it's a proven fact. the newer drivers are far better for gaming.

 

Any idea what driver would be best for 3DMark Vantage? I'm trying to beat my record and hit 7k, but have not been successful.

 

which ones have you tried so far mike?
these are the ones i have used for vantagemark.
180.43
180.44
185.20

also try running even
650/950/1600
655/955/1600

 

I've tested 179.32, 179.28, 185.20, 180.84, but am in the process of reverting to my original record with 180.43, to see what that will do.

 

also 177.35 177.39 are extremely good drivers...they just suck for sli. i grabbed a bunch of records using them.

 

You probably already know this site but in case you don't:

http://www.co2-solid.ro/cel-mai-bun-driver-nvidia-pentru-notebook-ul-tau/3/

However, probably the best drivers for the card used in the test won't be the best for 9800M, but might give you some idea.

 

Well my new video card is already giving me grief. Anytime it hits 68C, the video starts corrupting and doing funny stuff. Even all stock, it still does this. 179.28 drivers. Bad video card maybe? Its never performed well from the get go.

 

not good mike....make the call and get that new card shipped out to you

 

I'd make the call... but they want to either hold $900 for the card's return, or make me ship it back in. Neither are good options to me.

 

if you have the room. do a quick fresh install on another partition or drive. then just install the video driver and see what happens....

 

Ya I've got the room. New 500GB 7200rpm drive I put a partition for an 'alternative os' which I have not installed yet. I'll give that a try here at work today.

 

k, cool. this should give you the answer your looking for....
try stock driver first as well....

 

Well still having issues with Vista x64 and stock drivers. Crap.

 

check the gpu connector and make sure there is no as5 or any other compound touching it for that matter. means pulling out the card and inspecting it with a flashlight or bright table lamp.

 

Did you try the video memory test ?

 

Hello, i have a 9800m gtx with device id 0617, i wont to overclok it, i save the rom image with cpuz, but when i try to open this image in nibitor version 4.8, the program do not recognize the device. i am able to hardware overclock a vga, i have done more times with my old 8800mgtx, but with 8800gtx nibitor works fine. how can i edit my 0617 image rom? thx for all ^^ and please forgive me for my bad english but i am italian XD

 

driver 179.28 from nvidia website.

 

john thanks you so much for the fast answer, but i already done the software overclock. i desire to overclok by nibitor, flashing the vga bios. i wont a permanent and more stable overclock.

with ntune i cant overclock fine, i must set the cloks at 570 and 850 for memory. if i rise mmore the clocks at 600, 900, my d901c become instable and freeze in the 3d mark run. i think i must rise the voltage by flashing the bios. any idea for making a flash with nibitor and 9800mgtx id 0617?

 

well....yeah...lol...i thought that part was mentioned a few times before we got here. you flash for the voltage increase then you software over clock.

 

jhon you don't have understod me, i want flash my card, but my problem is that i have a 9800mgtx with id 0617, this model (0617) is not compatible with the last version of nibitor 4,8. if i open my bios in nibitor, the program tell me that this bios is not recognized and it can't find the cloks rate. how can i edit my bios (0617) using nibitor?

 

no...i completely understand you..
and i have the same id 0617
and earlier in this thread it is explained in detail how to get around that error you speak of.
i was one of the first batch of users to get the 0617 9800m gtx's. and already been past the flashing. just read through this thread for the walk through.

 

great! thank you! i have found your little guide and it work! can you suggest me a stable and fresh overclok? can you tell me frequencies and voltagies? your vga at which frequency run?