9800M GTX Thread

no problem.
600/900/1500-1550-1600
voltage set to 1.05
core/mem/shader. shader mem varies

 

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did that make sense to you?

 

I think he sent you kisses, so I assume he did

 

Hi there,

Just got my D901C, Has a Q9650 @ 3.00Ghz, and 2 * SLI 9800M GTX.

I've decided to go with 64-Bit Vista on it, now I'm choosing a video driver, any suggestions?

Earlier in the thread someone said 179.28 was the best, is that still valid?
Which drivers are better for synthetic benchmarks and which are better for real performance?

I'm hoping to try my hand at overclocking as well, if that makes a difference.

I'll post some 3Dmark scores after Vista finishes installing.

 

welcome to the 9800m gtx club.

we would be more instested in vanta mark scores if you go that. it's less dependant on cpu speed

hummmm, kisses huh....lol

was wondering what those we're.

 

I'm currently shaped to 64kb/s so I can't download anything of great size, but, I'll post vantage scores tomorrow (GMT+8)

I already had an installer for 3DMark06, and 179.28 drivers, so, decided to give them a whirl, came up with 14483, that sound about right?

I get my full net speed back at midnight tonight, so, I'll play around with different drivers (and post some vantage scores) after that.

 

64kb huh...your faster than lighting there..lol

sounds like a winner to me.
and 14.4 sounds no where near right...but will work on that..

 

Just playing around and seeing how it runs in general, hoping to really start testing the system when my net is un-crippled.

Also, I hope this isn't too off topic, but johnksss, I had a few questions for you (Or anyone else who can answer/has an opinion )

1) I remember reading from you that the 'X' in the QX9650 in your sig isn't a typo, and that you actually have an extreme in your system, but it doesn't do much for performance. Does it perform ANY better than a Q9650 when put in a laptop? Or is it pretty much just the same?

2) If I remember correctly, you were using 32bit Vista for some (All?) of the benchmarks linked in your sig, according to ORB, is there any reason you use 32bit over 64bit?

3) Can you recommend a good cooling pad? I was looking at the NZXT Cryo LX, does something like that make much of a difference? Also, is apply thermal paste worth it in these systems?

Sorry if I'm bugging you, or getting too far off topic.

 

they run exactly the same and yes i have an extreme cpu. since it cost me less than getting a q9650 i went with it. i also have a desktop that it can go in, but my q9550 is in there.

doesn't really matter to me, they both bench pretty dammn close. people said 64 bit was better and others say 32 is. as far as i can tell..has no super baring on benchmarking.

i got the nzxt. works great. tried that nc2000. i returned it the next day.

not bugging at all.

 

LoL i am not omosexual, i only want to thank you XD..

thanx for the tips, i have flash my card whit 600 850 1500 1.05v

you think that whith an ambient temperature of 23C° i can play games in safe?

 

Todey i have play gta4 for 3 hours at 600 850 1500 1.05v without the fn+1. i have played with the vents set at normal/aoutomatic speed. not at max vent speed. and at 15C° of external ambient temperature, after 3 hours of play gta4 the max core temperature was 63°!! i think this is great! when i press fn+1 my 9800mgtx go at 54° XD i am very happy ! my old 8800mgtx at this frequencies go at 79° (without fn+1). do you think that here in sicily, when in the summer the external temperature is about 25-35c°, i can leave my card overclocked and play at 600 850 1500 1.05v ?do you leave your 9800mgtx ever overclocked?

 

nah, i know your not, i was just messing with you..lol

me? nah, i always revert them back to stock since it plays fine without over clocking.

 

! i have played at world of warcraft with these frequencyes and the game show a large amount of artifacts which frequencye i must put down for resolve this artifacts? is better low gpu shader or mem?

 

drop shaders to 1400

 

The artifact in wow are down at 1400. only some time they appears. tomorrow i try tu flash at 1350 and see if the desappears at all. thx for your tips!

 

Use this artifact scanner:

http://www.techpowerup.com/atitool/

For stability testing. Don't mess with the clocks in ATITool though, just use the 3D artifact scanning.

 

After a myriad of compatibility issues today, I didn't get much done, unfortunately, but, I did install vantage, with no OCing, and 179.28 drivers, Vista64, came back with P9595, GPU score of 7865..

A few programs that I use day to day don't support Vista64, so after a day of trying out hacks and inching towards compatibility, I've given up, tomorrow will be trying out x86, and I'll post more scores and stuff then, hopefully

As an aside, what temp should the second GPU be sitting at in relation to the first in an SLI setup? Second GPU seems to sit about 8-11c below the first, is this normal?

 

the 9800 gts dont have s-video out.
how can i connect my laptop to TV
the TV has only s-video component and video input

 

Use a DVI-VGA converter.

 

I tried the new Nvidia beta driver and it failed to install again. Sad really, I know there is a work around, but some of the posts indicate that it is merely a different bios. Is that all? Could I reflash my card and stop this silliness or is there a hardware concern? My hardware id is below.

PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0608&SUBSYS_04811558&REV_A2

 

PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0608&SUBSYS_04811558&REV_A2

10DE&DEV_0608 0481 1558<--- is this your whole device id string?

can you please post those vantage scores to orb, thanks.

 

The first line is my hardware id from the display adapter properties in the control panel. It was the longest and apparently most detailed string, all other strings dropped off more information, like the next string dropped "&REV_A2". Is there another place I should look?

 

PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0608&SUBSYS_04811558 <----I cant find this one in an 0608. i found it in a 060B though. but i only looked through a few inf's though.

but these i could find.
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0608&SUBSYS_05771558
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0608&SUBSYS_207A161F

 

I did some searching as well in the install files, and I have seen similar things. The things is that this is what I copied out of the display adapter properties box (as in crtl-c then crtl-v). Maybe I need to take the back cover off sometime and give a look.

I appreciate the help. By the way, what is the subsys number for or does it signify?

 

has your card ever been flashed?

 

Hi, I have the same subsystem 0481. Guyupnorth, can you please put on somewhere for download the originial BIOS of your video card? I would be really greatful, thank you.

 

If someone have pictures of 9800M GTX with ID 0608 please post the here

 

What program allows you to monitor cpu and gpu temps? Also how do I test if one of my gpu's is bad?

 

you can use Everest Ultimate Edition but it has to be registered version to monitor all CPU GPU HDD Mobo and ...
better way is to remove second card test first and same with second remove first test second

 

Can someone help to solve this problem?
Bus Interface @ x1 not @x16......

Already solved...

 

dammn!!!!!!!!! how you do that???

i been trying to do that since i got this laptop
just run some graphic program at the same time you reopen that program...it should jump back up to 16x (speculation)

 

but why r u trying to get that limited speed?

 

because it cuts the power usage. and longer time on battery. not much, but every little bit counts...

 

Will there be any effect on performance @x1 ?

 

yes...quite a bit...

trying to recreate what you got...running xp now.

 

With Powermizer on it will get in idle x1 and if off then always x16.

 

hummmm...mine wont budge past x16...and i got it running on battery under xp with one card.

 

First of all, I'm glad I found a forum full of other Sager Owners, good stuff. Second of all I'm loving my new rig. Heres the Specs...

1xSAGER NP9262 Ultimate Custom Laptop (Built on Clevo D900C / D901C)
- Warranty: 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warra
- Software Bundle (Not Installed): None Standard
- "Medialess" Microsoft Office Sof: None Standard
- Operating System: Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit
- Notebook Cooler: None Standard
- Mouse / Keyboard Accessories: None Standard
- Fingerprint Reader: None Standard
- Port Replicator / Dock / Hub's: None Standard
- Spare AC Adapter: None Standard
- Battery: Smart Li-ion Battery (12 Cell)
- Case: Basic Black Business Case - Incl
- Sound Card: Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audi
- TV Tuner: None Standard
- Camera: Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- Wireless Network Accessories: None Standard
- Wireless Network: Built-in Intel® PRO/Wireless 530
- Bluetooth: Internal Bluetooth + EDR
- Memory Card Reader: Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/
- Floppy Drive: None Standard
- External Hard Drive (Back Up): None Standard
- Raid: HDD Raid Settings - OFF
- Third Hard Drive: None Standard -
- Secondary Hard Drive: ~ 500GB 5400RPM (Serial-ATA II
- Primary Hard Drive: ~ 320GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 3
- Optical Drive: ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +
- Exterior Finish: Standard Finish
- Ram: ~ 4,096MB DDR2 800 (2 SODIMMS) D
- External Monitor Video Adapter: None Standard
- Video Card: nVidia 9800m GTX 1,024MB PC
- Processor: ~Intel Core 2 QUAD Q9650 3.0GHz
- Dead Pixel Policy: Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- Arctic Silver: Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
- Display: 17" WUXGA "Glare Type" Super Clear


All in all, FRIGGIN AMAZING. Blazing speeds. I have already decided I am going to buy a second 9800m GTX card to make it SLI, but even without, I can run SupCom on highest settings @ 1920x1200 without too much slowdown. I mean come on, when you have a 60x60 map with thousands of units on the map at one time, what do you expect? I'm interested to see how much has been accomplished with the overclocking department. I saw a screenshot somewhere, but thought I would ask, What software are you using to accomplish the overclock? thanks for the info in advance.

 

Noone has managed to overclock anything except the graphics cards in the D901C.

gfx cards can be overclocked by bios flash, or by nvidia system tools with certain drivers

 

Any guides who show how to overclock with nvidia system tools ?

 

Reble_45: make the overclock with bios flash - much more stable

 

I second that. A guide for novice users on how to overclock the GPU's with system tools and BIOS flash would be very very useful..

 

I am replying here to johnkss post on http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=4672309&postcount=367
as this is a discussion about 9800M GTX and not GT.

I did a bit of research today by looking in the nvcv.inf from Clevo's website and from my official CD with Clevo drivers.

Here are the Device IDs and subsystems that I have found out, they are all reported as 9800M GTX:

174.90 - NB8E-GTX
NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0608.1 PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0608&SUBSYS_04811558


Driver 176.02 - 9800mgt
NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0608.2 PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0608&SUBSYS_04811558


Driver: 176.25 - 9egt

NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0617.1 PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0617&SUBSYS_09021558
NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0617.2 PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0617&SUBSYS_04811558
NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0617.3 PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0617&SUBSYS_05771558

176.75 - 9800m gs

NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0617.1 PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0617&SUBSYS_09021558
NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0617.2 PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0617&SUBSYS_04811558
NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0617.3 PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0617&SUBSYS_05771558

179.48 - official Nvidia

NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0617.1 PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0617&SUBSYS_09021558
NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0617.2 PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0617&SUBSYS_04811558



Other versions of 9800M GTX reported in 179.48

NVDM.INF
DEV_0617&SUBSYS_02A21028 "NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GTX UPDATE: = nv_G9x, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0617&SUBSYS_02A210288

NVAM.INF
DEV_0617&SUBSYS_20031043 "NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GTX" = nv_G8x, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0617&SUBSYS_20031043
DEV_0617&SUBSYS_19821043 "NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GTX" = nv_G8x_Adp, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0617&SUBSYS_19821043

NVQU.INF
DEV_0617&SUBSYS_0770152D "NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GTX" = nv_G8x_MX3, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0617&SUBSYS_0770152D

NVCO.INF
DEV_0608&SUBSYS_FF011179 "NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GTX" = nv_G8x_HD, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0608&SUBSYS_FF011179
DEV_0617&SUBSYS_FF011179 "NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GTX " = nv_G8x_HD, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0617&SUBSYS_FF011179

NVAR.INF
DEV_0608&SUBSYS_207A161F "NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GTX" = nv_G9x, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0608&SUBSYS_207A161F
DEV_0617&SUBSYS_207A161F "NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GTX " = nv_G9x, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0617&SUBSYS_207A161F

I wonder who the other manufacturers are.
AR is probably Alienware but the rest... ?

Looks like my 9800M GTX is probably this one: DEV_0608.2 PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0608&SUBSYS_04811558 because I know it's revision 2.

 

for you to get to dev_0608.2
you would have to chose the second gtx like this
NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GTX
NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GTX

when you do have disk method.

this will choose the correct one.

 

Ah I see, so it's not 0608.2 then cause I never had to use the have disk method .

What I wanted to say is that there are many other devices and subsystems. But I guess they've upgraded all 0608 to 0617 and I will do the same and keep the 0617 BIOS.

 

well...in our case, it's really only 2 or 3
0608
0617
SUBSYS_09021558
SUBSYS_04811558
SUBSYS_05771558


when trying to make drivers work, you can change that subsys string to the matching one on your unit. this is how you get the driver to install on your system when it wouldn't work before.

this is the bios string for the 9800m gtx produced around October 2009
NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0617.1 PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0617&SUBSYS_09021558

 

Ah, I see.

Right now I am using 0617 BIOS and with my subsystem 04811558 it makes the card supported with the latest drivers. But now I at least know exactly what card I have in my laptop.

I've also figured out who the other manufacturers are from this website:
http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=918

So other manufactures have been testing the 9800M GTX:
DM is DELL Mobile
AM is Asus Mobile
QU is QUANTA (ODM): sold by ACER, BenQ, vprMatrix, SABIO, AHTEC
AR is Arima (Alienware)
CO is COMPAL (TOSHiBA only) - probably the Qosimo

 

I got my laptop in October 2008 as well but my original bios string is PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0608&SUBSYS_04811558&REV_A2

I probably got a card from the first batches, which might as well explain why I have issues with the memories.
By the way, my memories work fine at 900 Mhz but only with the official drivers like the 179.48 as soon as I revert to something else, things get nasty.

 

yes, but mine has sli and yours is a single card...probably why you have the 0608.
flip side:
someone who got their laptop around then also as a 0617 bios like mine and it's not sli either.



(speculation) i haven't done this because i don't have to.
now. if you change the 0902 to a 0481. you could flash the 0617 bios to your card without all the fancy nvflash string codes:
example:
nvflash 9800mgtx.rom
for sli hit Y twice

if you leave the subsys id as it is, then you have to flash with the nvflash -4 -5 -6 yada yada