AMD Catalyst 13.1 (9.012.0 December 19) AMD Official WHQL

Come again? Try replying using the context next time. Updated Intel drivers or stock intel drivers has absolutely nothing to do with switchable graphics showing up or not. And honestly, I haven't tried installing 13.1 after uninstalling the old drivers, it's just what others have said in this and in other threads.

Pull the stick out of your rear next time you post, okay?

Also, can you prove any statistical gains from the latest intel drivers vs the stock ones while running things through the AMD GPU?

 

AMD is seriously pissing me off. Their beta drivers nearly forced me to reinstall Windows and this crap doesn't work either. My intel drivers are up to date. Everytime I try to install the AMD drivers, all it installs is the install manager and some run time evironment I think, no CCC. I tried maybe a dozen times, I didn't leave a single trace of the old drivers on my computer, even cleared the registry. This crap just won't install, no errors, just never even tries to install itself.

 

Alright, I managed to do a clean install of the 13.2 BETA drivers. Minecraft still averages 9-12FPS, frequent drops to 1 FPS. GPU utilization 0-10%.
Will I never be able to play something like MINECRAFT!!!!! at decent FPS? ....

 

I don't think the drivers are your problem. Do you have .net framework installed? And do you even have games set to use the AMD GPU?

 

Not sure why so many people are having problems. I went from 12.11 beta11 to 13.1 with zero issues. 13.1 is much more stable than previous releases, and has been problem-free for days.

 

It seems you have missed this. DON'T INSTALL 13.2, IT IS UNFINISHED. What does unfinished mean? It means don't install it.
- And yes unsurprising, others have found OpenGL doesn't work great with 13.2, because you guessed it, DON'T INSTALL IT, IT'S UNFINISHED.

These are not beta drivers, they were leaked inappropriately. Install 13.1 WHQL and wait for the official release of 13.2 beta like everyone else.



Also here are the latest beta of Java, the horrible horrible, terrible terrible, god awful, ridiculously bad, why won't it just die, Java.

http://jdk8.java.net/download.html

 

After you close Minecraft, go to CCC, then Switchable Graphics Application Settings. Change javaw.exe (there may be two of them) to High Performance.

Even with the 7970M powering Minecraft, the game runs terribly, like it is running in a PS2 emulator. The frame rate will be fine for a few minutes, and then there will be lag spikes down to 1-5 FPS, like you were saying, for 10 seconds. Java is horrible for Minecraft. I can't believe that even now, with all of the money the creators make, that the developers of Minecraft cannot simply recode the game within a manageable engine. What the hell are they doing with that money? Burning it?

 

There's absolutely nothing wrong with Java. The browser plug-in and Oracle's negligent stewardship of Java however... oh, dear lord.

 

Borderlands 2 usage still drops into the 10s at times and my framerate goes down to 10. BF3 works well though.

 

Yes the drivers are my problem. Of course I have .net installed and....no I'm not an idiot, so it has nothing to do with my switchable graphics settings, I never actually managed to install the driver. So all these obvious hints aside, what the hell could the problem be? I did everything possible to get this working. I'll just go back to the old drivers...again.

Yes, I missed that, but 13.1 is impossible to install for me.

And already got that java version, thanks.


As I said, I'm going back to the default drivers again. When I wanna take a break from C++ and calculus, I waste very valuable and limited time fixing drivers instead. Not productive at all.

 

For someone so versed in computers, its impossible to install 13.1..... Ok.

 

And to be the only one with these severe problems as well, lol.

 

Obviously there is something wrong that is preventing the installation of the drivers, my registry might be mesed up somehow, what do I know. But if all you want to do is give generic trivial advice and make fun of people with problems, fine. I guess you never had something that's supposed to be a click-through installation up on you. I got a little further this time, used an unofficial installer, the driver was actually on the list and installation failed. I'll do a clean install of the old working drivers and be done with it. There is obviously something wrong with my system, but not getting the answer here, that's for sure.

 

The thing is, you're blaming the drivers which are not at fault. You messed up somewhere, probably by using a crappy registry cleaner. Your best option is to reinstall windows and start over. Being arrogant about it certainly isn't an attitude to have when you want help.

 

I saw mentioned somewhere that this driver needs sp 1 on win 7 installed, dont know if this is the cause of your problem. I dont think that theese drivers are bad actually are the best for 7970m and they well deserve the whql stamp as they are working properly.
About the instalation process, I simply just uninstalled the old driver, driver sweeped old and installed new. Didn't even touched the intel driver. Some say that driver sweeper is bad, so do as you like. I'm using it for years and it didnt do any harm so far.

 

Oh btw, sorry if this was answered before , and I missed it, are the latest CAP included in this drivers or do I need to install them manually.? those that should increase far cry 3 performance??

Thanks

 

I uninstalled all AMD stuff in Control Panel, restarted and installed 13.1 WHQL. All is fine.

 

@mahalsk: previous CAP releases are usually always included in a new revision of drivers

 

Alright, I'll admit, I blamed the drivers wrongfully. It's just that when I tried the beta drivers a while back I kept BSODing, so I got angry when things weren't working again and blatantly blamed the drivers. The obvious suggestions kind of added to the fire, I was angry, for that I apologize.

I cleaned the registry manually and I'm pretty sure I didn't do anything I shouldn't have. Trying to think of what else could be wrong. I really don't want to reinstall windows.

 

Accordingo caveman-jim here they arent, but sitll I wanted to ask, didnt find enywhere else id they are or not 100%.:

13.1 whql nids aplication profile 12.11 cap2? - Rage3D Discussion Area

 

could be something to it, since the AMD download page lists both the WHQL and the CAP2 on the same page

 

just run system restore. then uninstall the drivers restart. install new drivers. might work idk


Anyways.....i dont think they Fixed the DX9 part of drivers. Still only getting like 35% ultilizations and subpar framerates 25-45 and low spikes of 5fps, cud be the game engine at capacity but i didnt make it
-but it did seem a little bit smoother then the enduro performance drivers

 

Nah, tried that, something must've been messed up for a while I guess. The thing is that I was an idiot and got Microsoft Office, Mathematica 8 and a whole bunch of other expensive software installed in my windows partition. I have no installation discs and getting the licenses deactivated and reactivated smells like trouble too. That's why I'm reluctant to reinstall windows.

 

I have realized GTA IV is affected by the latency issue. With vsync, the game is smooth but performance is limited. But, without vsync, there is still tearing well under 60FPS. It isn't really even normal tearing in which the screen gets "cut in half," but a tearing that affects all moving objects on screen and makes the game look jittery. Definitely a type of micro stuttering, and it happens at all frame rates, below and above 60FPS. It isn't quite as bad as the Skyrim micro stuttering, which is unbelievably terrible, but still very annoying. It makes even 60+ frame rates look choppy.

I do hope that the memory management fix AMD is developing will apply to all games. Half-Life Blue Shift (2001, DirectX 7 or 8) also suffers from terrible frame latency issues, with and without vsync enabled.

 

Just found a small note in the release, just to confirm that you need to install the CAP 2 to get that far cry 3 boost :

That's from the release notes of the driver suite, just in case someone didn't notice:
AMD Catalyst Software Suite Version 13.1 Release Notes

 

Alright,I give up. And now I fail to see how the problem could be on my side. I formatted the disc, reinstalled windows, tried to install the 13.1 driver from AMD's website and:

AMD Catalyst cannot be downloaded due to incompatible hardware/software on your computer. The version of your graphics adapter is not supported, Please contact your manufacturer for a graphics driver update.

When I use the .exe from the link at the beginning of this topic same thing as before happens. It only lets me select the install manager and not CCC and the driver to install. All older drivers seem to install fine, 13.1 just refuses to install. Almost starting to look like a problem with the GPU itself, but then why would the old drivers install without problems?

And now excuse me, as I'll have to get over the fact, that I just lost a lot of licensed software for completely no reason. It's going to be a hassle to get it back.

 

Install intel first. Also make sure you're using the mobility drivers. If those don't work, you can always try the desktop ones. They're mostly the same.

 

Already had the newest intel drivers installed prior, along with some basic drivers from the original driver CD. I'll try the desktop drivers, it's the last thing I can do.

 

Try this:
AMD Catalyst 13.2 BETA download

 

Thanks for bringing that up again. Desktop drivers did the same thing upon install, this works perfectly. I'm probably going to get yelled at again for using these unfinished drivers, but hey...they work
So will be running on this until proper 13.2 Beta comes out. 13.11 will stay a mystery forever I suppose, no idea why even a full format and reinstallation didn't fix the issue, makes no sense.

EDIT: Yap, didn't take long to get yelled at.
Some games scream at me that my GPU has 0mb vram with 13.2, but they still start and run at 60FPS with vsync, and that's what I'm here for. Switchable graphics work fine too. Still looking forward to proper beta.
All games like Skyrim, Far Cry3 and Battlefield 3 aside though, Minecraft still runs like s h i t. It probably even runs better on the integrated chip tbh.

 

Don't install that.

 

If it works for you, go with it. I myself have been running the beta since shortly after arrival and have had no problems.

 

I have runned 13.2Beta and had no issues but saw improvements in some game in terms of latency.
I geuss if you really wanna try go for it, if you dont like it uninstall and revert to 13.1

 

I went back to 13.1 from 13.2. Sniper V2 Elite was BSODing. Fixed once I went back to 13.1

 

Thracks only says that so people don't blame AMD for the drivers' bugs (i.e. as a disclaimer, to prevent potential publicity and legal issues). But it is a leaked test build that people can choose to install or not on their own. Seems to work well for most people that have installed it. Worst comes to worst, they can just uninstall it and go back to 13.1 WHQL / 12.11 beta (like the gentleman with the 7970M CF system before).

 

That's odd, Borderlands 2 is one game I play frequently with no drops into the 10s, even on the stock drivers. I do get a little stuttering for about 3 seconds after loading a map, but then it's smooth. Is that what you're talking about? note: I'm at 1080P, max settings except AA and physics. What settings do you play at?

 

Max everything 1080p. Maybe I should drop physx?

 

Yes you should drop PhysX. Your CPU is handling it!

 

Just installed 13.1, no problems so far, but i have a question. In Crysis 1, with maxed settings, 8x msaa and no v-sync, im getting 25fps im some places, during fights. Is that normal? Its weird because in Crysis 2 very few times i get to 25 fps :S
Also, my 3dmark11 score went from 6579 to 6545
Oh, and gpu utilization isnt fixed, at least not on Crysis 2, still getting 75-80% in some parts.

 

slight changes in benchmark scores are normal when changing drivers. going down 34 points in 3dmark11 is nothing to worry about. think about it: thats barely 0.5%, totally acceptable and inside the usual range of error

gpu utilization cant possibly stay at 99-100% in all games at all times. especially in not so graphic-demanding scenes when not a lot is happening it can be quite usual for the gpu utilization to drop off. doesnt mean that theres a driver problem, but rather that the rendered scene just isnt so demanding as for the gpu to be used to its full potential

 

Now with 13.1 I have finished Max Payne 3 with no crashes. What an awsome game.
Also, my score went up Not a big difference anyway.

AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3720QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P6554 3DMarks

No problems so far, so ill definitely stay with this driver. Until AMD releases something even better.

 

I have everything installed and everything seems to work but the fan of my gpu never stops runnings. It stays at 20% as per msi afterburner. Ive started and closed multiple programs and nothing changes. Anyone have any idea why??

 

This is happening to me too. The fan also spools up randomly, but the dGPU never actually turns on. Rather annoying.

 

Exactly! I wasn't getting this with the previous drivers. Any solutions out there??

Cheers

 

So are these drivers better than 12.11 beta 11 and by how much more fps at 1920x1080 are they better? Is it a few fps?

 

That information is in this thread already. >_>

 

13.1 whql is only slightly faster but apparently way more stable, especially on EM machines (less bsods, microstuttering etc.)

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Turning physx to low in BL2 solved my issue.

 

I was getting a lot of crashes in Max Payne 3 and Crysis 2, but now with 13.1 they are gone. Also, i noticed that crysis is more smoother now.
Oh yeah, and no bsods.

 

Meh, another driver that does little to improve the performance of enduro machines. I'm glad that it's helped improved the stability in games and BSOD's when installing drivers for some people but it still leaves alot of 7970m users with a card that is only marginally quicker in a 6990m in alot of games, with exception of a handful of games the performance of this driver isn't any quicker than the 12.11 beta driver 3, it seems that AMD may never release a driver that fully eliminates the under utilization issues that people are having. Oh well back to the 12.11p driver for me