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    AMD Catalyst Mobility PowerXpress and Enduro Fix Drivers (13.10b)

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by LeeKM, Sep 6, 2013.

  1. balane

    balane Notebook Consultant

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    Just so that's clear, the slow down in WoW is listed as a RESOLVED ISSUE.
     
  2. NeoCzar

    NeoCzar Notebook Evangelist

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    Who runs WoW in DX9 mode? I run it in DX11 mode. The performance varies, sometimes I get 99% most of the time, yet fps is variable (I don't have the 99% bug) indicating poor graphics coding like Meaker said, and sometimes it's fluctuating between 50-80% with good fps in certain areas.

    As far as LeekM is concerned I'm yet to see anyone else benefit from his drivers ever, and his tendency to want to explain what the Enduro issue is (something this forum has discussed to death) rather than help others achieve the results he claims, makes me just want to disregard anything he puts out till someone actually demonstrates it works.
     
  3. Phlawless

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    Well, I compared the Catalyst 13.10 beta with Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3, with LeeKM's fix and it does show obvious improvement. On Diablo 3 for example, I went from 70-80fps to 150fps for example running around Tristram. So, there obviously is something different between the official driver and his. My Starcraft 2 also showed improvements, but not as heavy as diablo 3, just 20-30 fps boost there. His screenshot of the FF14 benchmark, I didn't as high of a benchmark score as he did, only 7200ish, but that was because he has a 50Mhz overclock on his. Otherwise, his screenshots WERE indeed consistent to what I got.

    I have been uninstalling and reinstalling drivers all day just to try to see what the differences were. And the only thing I cant get to match is his League of Legends 238fps at spawn. It would be great if I could figure out what was different, just to get that final game consistent with his.

    If you cant see a difference in the driver, maybe you aren't performing a complete enough uninstall of previous drivers.

    And to be honest, I don't understand how much more he can "help" someone achieve the same results sometimes. He already put the install file links. People just have to clean uninstall the old ones, and install those. Aside from getting a good sweep of the leftover old drivers, I don't know how much more "specific" he can help with that. Wiping old drivers is usually something people do themselves before they have a fresh reinstall of new ones.

    I'm sorry, but especially for D3, that kind of doubling fps is definitely not within a "margin of error" of fluctuating fps difference. And since I am getting such a performance boost, the driver stays. Maybe eventually AMD's official drivers will have an equally good fix.

    So to everyone who keeps asking "is there anyone else who is getting the same performance boost that LeeKM is getting?" The answer is YES, I am. I am getting the exactly same thing in all his games except League of Legends in which I cap out at 175ish. So, I don't know where he is getting the other 60 fps from. But again, the answer is YES.
     
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    Its like that for me too. LeeKM's driver has lower benchmark scores, but the in game FPS is through the roof. Its weird, but the real game performance is what you should be concerned about, not synthetic benchmarks.
     
  6. drieschel

    drieschel Notebook Consultant

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    The first person who claims to have improvements with LeeKM's modded inf from AMD drivers. Korean and new registered. What an amazing coincidence.
     
  7. Phlawless

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    lol, i guess you would think its a big coincidence. First off, new registered means Jun 2011 to you? and Second, I'm not korean. I may be in korea for my work, but that doesnt make me korean. Living in a different country for a bit, you can learn at least some basic phrases you know. And it should be obvious that my english is fluent enough that I'm not some korean dude.

    And furthermore, if you want to just use official drivers that's all on your bro. But, if you feel you wanna squeeze a bit more fps out of your card without overclocking it, then you can try the driver and see that it obviously works. Just load up every game you have now, and then record the fps that you have. Write that down.

    Do a driver wipe and then install the new driver and test the games again in the same places. It should be an obvious fps boost. Write down those numbers and then compare the the differences. If you are satisfied enough to keep it, then fine. If not, whatevers, move on. But, unlike you, i prefer to get +100% fps on D3, and at least +30% on a few other titles.

    I have a feeling you aren't even trying the driver, and you are just randomly saying doesnt just magically give better performance. Don't you remember when the 7970m just came out? One miracle driver was all was needed to go from 5600 3dmark11 to a 6400 score. happens. These days, its more driver issues than the actual fault of the card, and that's exactly what is happening here.

    And just for you, I logged into D3 a few minutes ago to snap this screenshot with Afterburner showing the stock clock speeds and clearly showing D3 doing 150 fps in game and NOT the 70-80 that i WOULD'VE HAD with the "official" drivers. If you still don't believe me, whatevers. I'm sure there are others who get the free improvement. And doubters who dont make an effort to check it out for themselves dont deserve the upgrade anyways.
     

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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Say this was true, what would he have to gain?
     
  9. Phlawless

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    Seriously, just trying to tell people it works, and I doubt people are even trying.
     
  10. drieschel

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    You won!

    But if you read the whole thread, you would know that I've tested the "drivers" exactly one time. I won't give them another try until a lot of people can proof that the card perform better. I'm very happy for you that you get such big speed improvements. But one thing is still not clear for me: LeeKM wrote somewhere that his "fix" only affect Dx9 games. Aren't Diablo3 and Starcraft2 Dx11 games?
     
  11. drieschel

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    I revoke my statement: Sorry Phlawless!
     
  12. Phlawless

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    I have no idea, but to me I dont even care about the specifics. If it really is dx11 and i got double the fps, then heck, maybe the fix works on dx11 games too. I know for WoW you could switch between dx9 and dx11 when I used to play it. But, I'm not exactly going to just reactivate my account and download like 20GB just to test that. And I really doubt I am the only one who got a performance boost, someone else who got it working should post and confirm it also.

    In the meantime, I'm going to test that 13.9 official driver just to see also. It's not like I got anything else to do now.
     
  13. janne907

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    Yes iknow. This 13.10b fix wasn't for me, because the previous one 13.12Fix gave me a much better performance in games that i play(Cs:Go, bf3). It would be nice to see what LeeKM creates from this new driver(13.9). I'm gonna try Lol with amd 13.9 driver and see what kind of results it gives.
     
  14. drieschel

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    Checked the required Dx versions for D3 and Sc2: Both are Dx9 games. So, that matches more with that what LeeKM claims about his "fix".
     
  15. Phlawless

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    What the....D3 came out well after WoW got the dx11 upgrade? And its still stuck on dx9? weird.
     
  16. balane

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    13.9 is superior for my games (Mostly DX11 MMO's.) than any other driver yet. I'm definitely sticking with it for the time being.
     
  17. Slovedon

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    Because it seems that the utilization issues are caused by all GPU function having to be processed through the integrated graphics / CPU bottleneck, in muxless graphics systems like ours. Thus, a more powerful CPU/iGPU may allow for better utilization of the dGPU.
     
  18. janne907

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    With amd13.9 and Machaters endurofix i get ~220fps at the beginning of Lol, also 3dmark11 raised above 6900pts. Only problem is that gpu usage doesn't reach even 75%.. It's strange that only the msi kombustor is able to achieve constant 99% gpu usage..
     
  19. drieschel

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    I'm not a hardware geek but I would really wonder when the iGPU influences the utilization of the dGPU. If I understand it right, then is the iGPU only used to forward the signal (sent by dGPU) to the output. It doesn't support the dGPU with processing.

    Besides, the iGPU is integrated in the CPU but it doesn't have to do something with the CPU power that a application/game needs. Wanna say, if you buy a better cpu and you have a cpu intensive game, of course this can increase the framerate.
     
  20. Phlawless

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    Omg really? I'm gonna try it out right now. That seems to be the closest to 238 I have seen so far.

    Edit: I just installed 13.9. After applying Machaters enduro fix, I didn't see the new section in the catalyst control center. Is it the case for you too? In any case, my fps was still the same at the start of LoL. It seems to be at 170-180.
     
  21. janne907

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    Yes, i don't see the new section either.
     
  22. Phlawless

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    In any case, when I tried the 13.9 with the machater patch, I'm not sure if the patch applied properly or not. I couldn't tell any difference in games. For benchmarks I scored a little bit higher, but that was it. In LoL, I definitely wasnt getting the 200+ fps you were getting. I assume all your game settings were also on very high and the fps set on benchmark also? Did you do anything else special after you driver sweeped and installed the 13.9 driver?
     
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    No longer available on mega, can anyone send me a link?

    Just trying to play dragon age origins...25 fps with settings on low :(
     
  24. LeeKM

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    The intel 3304 Driver seems to cause windows media player to play only 1/4 the video. The top left side of the video shows fine. But the other 3/4 of the video will be a solid green color. Can anyone else confirm that this happens to their media player too?

    EDIT: I found out the cause of the 1/4 video bug. If you change the noise reduction settings in the intel HD Graphics control panel to "application settings" instead of Driver automatic settings, it will cause only 1/4 the video to be rendered, and the rest will be glitchy.
     
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    What's up with these hosting sites? So slow!!!
     
  27. m3n00b

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    Okay these drivers are awesome! 100 usage is bs though
     
  28. dertester1

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    Please make a download mirror.
    Mega = very slow
     
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    Hey Guys, Just wondering what you thought about using this for the GX60's 7970m, the GX's are the only laptops with that graphics card and an APU I believe so was the APU version made specifically for us? If so has anyone tried it out and report their results.

    Thanks in advance

    p.s. I want a confirmation before trying cause last time I tried Driver sweeper ended up BSOD and doing a recovery...
     
  30. addom

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    Could you give me a working link? Thanks!
     
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