ATI HD 6990m

Thanks , that worked! but is there a way to disable OSD only for that particular game/exe file?

 

Yup, use the game profiles:

Screen on the right:


Best Regards to all

 

Thank you kind sir! I have one more problem tho.. AtiTraytools Keeps causing bsods if I turn on the switch profiles/clocks on battery / AC modes . Anyway to fix that ? It seems that if I enable it and pull out the AC plug atikmdg.sys crashes , everything will still work until I repeat the process once again of back to AC power then to battery ( or when Its on battery mode for the second time it bsods )

Cheers

 

Hi,
I never had that issue, do you have the latest version 1.7.9.1573 Beta?
Also consider to exclude the Instalation Folder of ATT, on Anti-virus or HIPS you may have. Not doing this may cause BSOD, examples: Zemana Antilogger, Comodo (CIS), and much more.

Best Regards to all

 

Hey I tried the newer ATItraytools, It didnt help, BTW what drivers are you running?

 

At the moment the latest (11.11)

 

Do you know where I could buy clevo/sager 6990m video card?

 

RJ Tech.

Laptop Video Cards :: ATI HD 6990M 2GB Video Card for P170HM - R&J Technology, Clevo Barebone Notebook kits, Laptop and desktop system builder

Make sure you get the right heatsink for your model with it.

 

Hello!
I an currently in Brasil, and my room temperature is about 30ºC. But my 6990m temperatures on p150hm are around 70-73ºC on normal internet surfing. This is not right is it? I have to put the card myself, and i´m not sure if i put the termal paste right, so anyone can help me with that?
Thank you

 

This may help: How To Correctly Apply Thermal Grease | Hardware Secrets

 

has anyone tried Catalyst 11.11 yet? I remember when I updated to 11.10, the sharpness of my screen dropped a bit. I notice there are settings in the Catalyst control center but i kept them on default. Anyway to crank up the sharpness/brightness back?

 

is it possible to overvolt the 6990m if so. how

 

It is not. Well, it is not via any software means. I suppose you could mod the card if you wanted to overvolt bad enough.

 

Hi, sorry noob question

whats a widely used benchmark program for a nub to use?

is this one ok
Futuremark 3DMark Vantage v1.1.0 | Download | GameConnect

 

That will work fine. A 6990M should get around 14k at stock clocks.

 

Hi ppl,
More tests I made:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...ing-ocing-anyone-else-done-2.html#post8145491

Best Regards to All

 

New preview drives for skyrim performance boosts. AMD Catalyst 12.1 Preview Driver 32-64-bit driver download from Guru3D.com

 

+ rep given. thanks 10% boost sounds good for skyrim will try when i get home.

 

yeah, it's fine. but tbh what's more n00bish than your was the way you put it, using n00b everywhere. just ask it and let it at that. sorry but that just really annoys me.

 

Guys, new Driver: 11.12
ATI Catalyst? Mobility Display Driver


Can you try it with Skyrim?

 

Sorry to dig up a buried thread, but it came up when I did a search for '580M vs 6990M'. I'm basically researching which card to have installed in an AW m17x I'l be ordering soon. Unfortunately, the price is the same for both through Dell/AW, which is basically making my decision come down to a pissing contest on performance based on current drivers. Also, which one runs cooler/overclocks better?

 

For a single card I would probably go with the 580m. They can be overvolted and overclocked to 560ti speeds which is much faster than a 6990m can get to. They draw more amperage but generally run the same temps or lower than the 6990m.

 

For the same price you have absolutely no reason to pick the 6990M over 580M. It was like a month back when the 580M was $300 more that people were wary of picking it.

 

I can still bench my 6990M to an overclocked/overvolted 580M or higher and im running stock voltage. In the UK it is still the best bang for buck because the 580M is still $250 more that the 6990M and there is no difference in active performance I have compared them side by side to my mates and if anything with my high bandwidth I see higher FPS in open space scenes.

6990M all the way you only need Nvidia if you love Nvidia or hate ATI.

 

It's still $350 difference in Europe.
260Eur~$350.

 

on rjtech (US) it's 320$. So I'm not sure why you don't see still the same big difference in the price.

 

I can tell that my 580m overvolted and overclocked is from 10 to 15% more powerful than your 6990m @ 850/1125 according to your benchmark scores. In addition, I lately owned both cards (upgraded from 460m to 6990m and then 580m) and there's a difference in game (BF3) as the fps displayed seem about the same but it's more smooth to play with 580m.

Also, there's nothing to compare with temps, my 580m o/v o/c temps runs up to 7 degrees lower than my 6990m @ 830/1150.

But still the price difference is major and I would go for 6990m if I was a bit cost limited, otherwise gtx580m is the way to go.

 

Stock clocks - a close tie.

Overclocked on stock voltage - a close tie.

Overclocked + overvolted - ~10% to Nvidia (This could easily change if there was an overvolting option for the 6990M)

Temps - you can't compare those as both Nvidia and AMD have different calibration of their sensors. Also, Nvidia made "thermal protection" against several apps like Furmark and the cards will throttle down to show low temps.

 

Please show your benchmark results are better than just saying they are I could easily say my 6990M is better than a desktop 7970 if that was the case. At stock there is no difference so unless you intend to overvolt which most dont as it can lead to problems down the line along with additional heat the difference is not worth the cost.

Would love to know what you mean by this as well.

Comedy quote?

 

BF3 is the one game that isn't biased toward either side. In fact, it fully proves the notion of the 6970 being as fast as a GTX 480.

And Yiddo, let him have his fun. If he thinks what he thinks, by all means, let him think this. The 580M had to be undervolted to .825v and underclocked to meet the acceptable 100w threshold for a mobile flagship. The 6990M could remain at the same stock voltage as the 6870 and just underclock it to meet these requirements. However they overvolted the GPU and underclocked it for the allowance of overclocking.

The 580M has 32 ROPs and 56TMUs whereas the 6990M has 32 ROPs and 48 TMUs. In theory, the 580M at the same clock speed as the 6990M should be the faster of the two. It's been proven in several cases actually. However, in order to attain this, you have to manually overvolt the 580M. Overclocking it to this level makes it pull around 140w alone. The 6990M pulls around 115w at the same level, however due to the different architecture design, cooling is better on the former Nvidia card.

The only real proof of the 580M being faster than the 6990M at that point is from some crazy alienware person.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/8120322-post1721.html

GPU score is around 2k higher, but that's not that impressive since you need a significantly more powerful CPU by this point to make any difference, if any.

Congrats, you spent another $300 to get a 2K higher GPU score after overvolting and overclocking your GTX 580M.

 

he is getting a M17x R3 in the US, in which if you guys have noticed a bit more would realize that the 580M and 6990M are at the same price for quite a while now. (yeah i know sager/clevo still have to pay $250 more to upgrade to a 580M)

 

Yes, I know this, however the 580M throttles once it reaches 74*C. The BIOS for the entire machine has to be modded to keep this from happening, and then you need to overvolt it to further push it up, AND THEN you can match a 6990M for performance... I personally don't think it's worth the hassle.

 

Don't take a **** budy haha your laptop is fine, I am just saying that you're wrong saying that your 6990M is as powerful as a 580M overvolted/overclocked.
Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-2720QM Processor,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16F2 score: P4679 3DMarks
Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-2720QM Processor,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16F2 score: P18235 3DMarks
Check GPU score and you will see..so the 6990M is a beast, but doesnt have the overvolting capability which make it less powerful than the 580M overvolted.

Then I wouldnt pay the additional $$ to get a 580M over a 6990M, just if it was the same price, definitely go for 580M as 10-15% more powerful.

 

It is as powerful as an overclocked 580M though so I am not wrong. + you are still paying 100's of $ more just to be able to overvolt.

Even so I am still chuckling away at your comment that even though the FPS are similiar you are able to feel that your 580M perform better than a 6990M. Brilliant.

 

I'm definitely not an expert but from what I've gathered after lurking around for a while, if you're picking up any of the single card Sagers (P150HM/P170HM), just go with the 6990m and buy an SSD or something with the additional cash. If you're budgeted way above, pick accessories or a chip upgrade if you want to toy around with overclocking. Don't get any choice but the 580m with the MSI whitebook models and pick whichever brand you're a fan of if you're going with the Alienware models as they are priced closely.

 

haha so now you agree your 6990m is behind, fine. Read your initial post, you said overvolted too And nop I am not paying additional 100bucks or whatever, just got them for same price otherwise I have already told, I would have gone for the cheaper 6990m.

And true I got both card installed in my barebone so why would I lie about the fps ?
Have to mention the temps difference again even though I know the different sensors on the AMD gpus, the bottom line is that the sensor on the die (memiO, shader) were way hotter than my 580m @ 825/1900 under BF3, as well as all the other sensors.

Now everything has been said I suppose

 

It is still talking You gotta admit that its a bit strange that your the only person in Europe or even the world to have got your 580M at the same price as a 6990M.

I could have left it at you gotta admit that its a bit strange.

Sillyness aside the 6990M remains several 100 $ cheaper for everyone else that is not you and so is the better deal unless you intend to overvolt to gain that extra special smoothness with no extra FPS. You live in the UK, it is currently -3 oC and rarely goes above 15oC all year round so your temps are not really that suprising.

Better?

 

Yiddo,

Got a mate who had spare Dell 580m that's why I got it cheap. The Dell 6990m came from Table21 from the forum though. You're prob right regarding temps, its cold out there and that prob helps lowering my temps a bit !

I definitely agree when the 580m is not overvolted, the 6990m is on par with it ! Got them both, can't blame anything about 6990m. Just had the opportunity to get the 580m and finally kept it because was slightly better than the beast 6990m.
Also your 6990m is one among many I have seen to hold 850 on score while gaming, usually it's around 825-830 and lower memory too (as Clevo use different mem than Dell).

Anyway we are not going to argue about these GPUs I just gave my point of view about both cards since I owned them and tested them.

And "I'm not arguing with you, I'm just explaining why I'm right"

Cheers

 

Stealing from someone else. Oh wait your from Bristol

Glad we got to the bottom of it you got a cheapo 580M off a mate so it has nothing to do with the difference in price which still remains, pretty smooth deal to go with your FPS

 

I lol'd

Get the very best 6990M Vantage GPU score, the 580M will get 2000 points more. Since the 580M can be overvolted, it is a better card.. it does better on BF3 even on stock clocks for crying out loud.

And we are talking about couple hundred pounds/dollars more when we have spent over a thousand on our laptops? :s

 

shhhh hush you! they need every excuses they can get =)

 

any1 know where to buy cheap 6990m for my np8170>?

 

You could check with Mythlogic or maybe other resellers. You contact them thru their websties/email or PM them once you have made 5 posts here on the boards.

 

can u suggest any plsss.....

 

I think Malibal either did not repaste the the thermal compound properly on my GPU or they did not repaste it with IC diamond. Before I had any problem with the GPU, it was running around 44-47 degrees for normal web surfing and during idle mode. After I got my laptop back from GPU replacement, the temps are around 57 celcius. And I am very unhappy with that.

 

I am sorry guys, I think it was due to one of the browser tab running youtube that raised the temps up to 57. If nothing is running the temps are around 46.

By the way, I did see one of the previous page displaying temperatures at 41 with stock thermal compound and peaks around 74 using 3Dmark vantage. That's so impressive. It is also one of the reasons leading me to think that Malibal did not use IC diamond on my GPU.

My 3D mark vantage peaks around 78 even with IC diamond(assuming Malibal used the correct paste). The difference gap is huge.

 

Guys, do we go to this link to update our driver?
AMD Catalyst? Mobility Display Driver

Or can we update through AMD catalyst control centre found in tray icon. I do see a software update button. Image provided below. Why is it saying AMD catalyst not available?

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/262/17858488.png
I am still a newbie. Thank you very much for your help.

 

You could go either route, but I would use the Check Updates button within the Catalyst Control Center. I haven't had any issues using it.

 

CCC said it is up to date. But few hours ago when I ran 3dMarkVantage, it suggested me to update into latest driver which is version 8.95. I am currently having 8.85. What about you?

 

My np8170 with 6990m at stock clocks/voltage was getting mid to high 80s running crysis1 earlier and 99 running furmark 15 minute 1080p test (no extreme burning mode). I have icd7 factory applied paste, should I be concerned or is this normal without a notebook cooler?

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