Any information on the new Clevo P7x0ZM?

You can't use an early pre-order price to judge what the actual price will be.

 

Well amazingly it has Win 7 - hopefully not a misprint and Clevo will supply drivers. That just leaves the question of cooling. If that's done properly, no throttling or "normal" 90' temps (I can live with noisy fans), I think I've just found my match made in heaven.

 

At the same frequency the power consumption wont be too different to the mobile ones. The desktop CPUs will just turbo harder and longer.

Considering the CPU cooler for the P570WM they do know how to make a decent CPU cooler.

 

Are you expecting price to go higher?

 

Slime 3.5" optical drives are less than 1" in thickness, so unless the really wanted to make a sub 1" notebook that's just a stupid decision, especially considering the desktop CPU will need some extra cooling. The spec sheet below states the laptop is 35.7mm at its thickest, so I don't see why they took the optical drive. UNLESS they used the extra space to beef up the CPU heatsink, but looking at the pictures the vents don't seem to support this.

230W? OK now that's just retarded beyond belief. Yeah sure the 4790K is 88W AT STOCK, but when overclocked I'm sure it'll easily shoot past 150W, if my 4900MQ @ 4.2GHz is anything to go by. That's not even enough to run the 980M full bore. What the hell is with this corner-cutting "it's good enough" BS? If this laptop can't take a 330W adapter I'm done.

But at what thickness though? Going by the listed dimensions it seems this machine is exactly half the thickness of the P570WM at its thickest point.

 

8500 zl, thats barely breaking 2000€, thats a joke i bet u can add several houndred € to that for a similarly specced system here in germany still, it would be about the same price as my p651sg order....hmmmm......so tempting....

dont really care one bit about the optical drive, imho its the perfect decision to sacrifice the ODD in order to use all the precious space for extra cooling! and cooling it has, u can be sure of that! after all, theres a reason this machine is 300 grams heavier than a p150 while being 7mm slimmer at its thickest point

 

230W PSU is concern for me as well. CPU 88W+ 980M 103W + Z97 4.1W =195.1W

Not quite sure about OC head room. I have another problem, Z97 not support vPRO.

 

Wait for mySN. They'll charge extra £200

 

About the optical drive, what I'm saying is if Clevo didn't take advantage of the extra space from removing the optical drive, they might as well put it back in. Weight doesn't mean anything really, especially since the desktop CPU's heatsink will have to larger to begin with to cope with the extra heat. The question is how much over-engineering went into this thing, and it seems like the answer is not much.

I suspect the reason for the 230W adapter is because Clevo left very little thermal headroom for OC, so by the time we max out the 230W PSU we're going to be overheating the 4790K anyway. I hope to be surprised of course, but the released specs do not make me feel good in the least bit.

Anyway, bottom line for me is "thin and light" is the wrong way to go about this machine.

 

Brick options will depend on the connector used.

 

yep, mosdef, but even at 300€ extra it would still be slightly cheaper or equally priced to the p651sg ive ordered, but at the same time providing more performance and the option of cpu/gpu upgradeability....

btw, afaik the 4790k doesnt have much oc headroom left anyways, i mean it already boosts to 4.4 ghz in its stock 88W envelope, so how much more would one want to oc it? 5ghz+ in a laptop?

 

That's 4.4GHz on a single core, 4 cores is still 4GHz. I want a 4790K that will do 4.5GHz on all 4 cores, and then when you throw in an overclocked 980M that 230W PSU is just not going to cut it.

 

This would be my first laptop without an ODD - anyone have any experience running copy protection DVD via USB drive? I'm thinking X-Plane 10, FS9, Dragon Age:Origins etc?

I know cloning iso's etc but even if you only limit yourself to 6 of your favorites that's 30GB on top of the installations... And I'm not using gamecopyworld 'patches' as I mix business and pleasure on the same machine, so need to keep all exe's 'clean'.

Can't wait to see the cooling under the hood.

 

I also thought this, but the P370SM3 machine looked MASSIVE in pictures and wasn't too bad when I got it, so... yeah.

That being said, I don't know how to feel about this machine. If the 980M was 85W like I thought, then I'd be fine... but apparently it's indeed 100W, so that makes it all moot.

 

You shouldn't see any difference in protection or speeds when running an external USB optical drive. Most notebook DVD drives read at 8x which equals 10.57 MB/s, even USB 2.0 can transfer up to 56 MB/s (480Mb/s).

Unless you were referring to a Flash drive when you said "USB Drive"?

 

Definitely worth waiting for reviews on this one. I need to know if 330W PSU is compatible, and how well the machine handles the CPU heat. I'm not optimistic at this point sad to say.

 

Thank you Hutsady - I was referring to a USB external optical drive, and whether it would be accepted by Starforce, Securom and the other older methods as 'legit'. If I can just pack a USB ODD play game key DVD's this would be a brilliant machine (subject to cooling). If lack of internal ODD would mean compatibility roulette or loads of cloning with a second PC before travel, I'd stick with a P17xSM-A.

 

Damn.

It looks like it might be December-end by the time we get this.

 

I see you were wondering about those games specifically. Maybe someone can chime in, or you could try it with an external USB drive with your current notebook, you'll need one anyway if you get this model.

 

So far no one has heard of this (which is fair, google only produces 8 results, mostly Polish ).

The Sager guy was fuming or maybe that's how Sager customer service is - I see where they get their rep from

RJ Tech guy was totally blanked. I would call Clevo if I could

Prema seems to be the only proper source for this. Either way, I don't think we can expect much before Christmas.

I dunno if I can wait that long. Sheesh.

 

OMG, just give me alot of PROZAC..

I was so tired of looking at every laptop in the world and had finally setteled on the p6xx..

But i guess these where made with Broadwell and Skylake in mind heatwise.
I am seriously suggesting to myself to just get a ps4 and wait for new Cpu's from intel.

And is there any confirmation that these Desktop CPU's are NOT going to be soldered?? Shi*, it would not suprise me..

 

But yet again..

I still do believe i was right in what i said there lol..

 

So, Kaozm, I'm a newbie, so tell me. If this system were available today, would you go for it? What would be your concerns?

I like the screen, and the new look.

But, with the desktop CPUs, aren't there a bunch of cons with heating, battery life etc. ?

 

Newb or not it dosent matter. I never buy anything until i am at the point i almost know what it would feel like in my hands!

My concersns would be heat. But i think the copper in this one will be on par with Asus g751/750..

IPS or PLS panel would be great, i think 1080p for 970, 980m is far enough (Pascal will probably change this tho)

Looks of it are amazing! Most likely aluminium like the p650. (hopefully)

This laptop with any desktop cpu will not be great on battery, 30-120min max. unless it gets a 16cell battery.. (which it won't)

I am just comparing mostly with the Clevo p650, and it looks like clevo had heat and build quality in mind with their new systems.

imo..

Edit: Laptop world is so much harder to live in than the Desktop world..

 

I will probably get the P651(sandblasted) anyway.. I sold my desktop way to early, new apartment.. Half the size Twice the price.. (finally got to use that sentence lol)

I got little over 5000$ for all my used gear, had alot.. And now i just have alot of nerves buying something almost not upgradable..

Again, laptop world is a strange new place..

 

You COULD buy a P370SM from Xotic; it'll come with a 780M, but you can choose a 4930MX and a dual PSU config and then buy 980Ms separately and get the unlocked BIOS from Prema, then buy the P370EM CPU and Slave GPU heatsinks for better CPU cooling & ocing. That could be upgraded, and hold a 120Hz screen if you want. The price for that however, is up to you what you're willing to pay.

 

Considering the laptop uses LGA 1150 CPUs, yeah I can personally guarantee there won't be any soldered crap. Although I suppose my personal guarantee doesn't mean much

For $5000 you could build a ridiculously overkill desktop. Or if you really needed the mobility, why not spend $4000 on a good desktop, then use the $1000 left to buy a "decent" laptop?

 

Oh, it was ridiculously overkill lol 5000 was what i got, i used a *censored* amount of cash when playing with desktop parts... ........ ....

I got tired of sitting in the same chair day in and day out!.. I want to be like you guys, gaming in the grass, outside. Hippie style, smoking a, cigarette..!

I still got spare space for desktop tho. But need a change... (Would not sold EVERYTHING if i could go back in time) That fu*ker got the bargain of his life

 

Thnx, but no. Too big imo. And i want to get away from sli..

I don't know what things will be like after i have had a new laptop for 6 months though..
I am currently using an old Lenovo 13" i got for 50$! IT IS HORRIBLE!
With Ubuntu

But have to lower my expectations (or what you call it) before trying something new u know And i just upgraded it to 4gb and found an old ssd in my basement. Works ok..

 

It says on the spec list that this model has a rubberised finish so I would not bet on aluminium, plastic I would think.

 

Welp, a P157SM-A would be your best bet. A 4810MQ or 4910MQ and a 980M and you're set, as far as I can see.

 

@ Kaozm

You do know you can edit posts or reply to two people in one message, no need to write several messages in a row, it is sort of forum etiquette not to spam multiple messages when no one has written after you, some people actually consider that rude, don't mean to be an @sshole, just giving you a friendly heads up because you have been doing this in every thread I have seen you in ,

 

Hopefully alu But yes, this is a replacement for the 150/70 and the lid looks like plastic, so it would probably be plastic.. And from what i understand the p650's is all new in it's own kind, and slim, so probably needed that aluminium for sturdiness.

 

lol gaming in the grass. The only time I did that was back in college, and only because we had a nice lawn in the dorm quad.

 

Yes. Been in the music thread for too long

Never tried that!

 

It's a rubberized finish all over by the looks of things.

 

I just hope that it'll accept a 330W and Clevo is only offering a 230W PSU because they're cheap. Otherwise this machine is pointless.

But I guess 330W is moot too if the heatsink is not up to par for an overclocked 4790K. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

 

theres always gonna be tuning options besides, even at stock speed the 4790K is a beast and even mops the floor with a 4940mx, thus is gonna be veeery future-proof

 

This came in now

 

Never mind.

 

didnt we have that specs sheet already?

anyways, it popping up means that preordering shouldnt be that far away anymore, need some pricing on this baby!

 

Found some intresting pics on this facebook site. Look at the difference in thickness :O

https://www.facebook.com/bluemobility.clevo

Btw do u guys have any idea how thick it is vs P6**SG?

 

Isn't it about 11 mm thicker? 25mm vs 36 mm.

 

Intel Desktop Core i7-4790S
32GB RAM
GTX 980M 8GB
1TB Samsung PRO SSD

puts it at $3361 after converting from Zlotys

 

Pic of rumored heatsink

5 heatpipes for the CPU, 2 shared with GPU. Not sure how I feel about this design tbh. With 970M it might be OK, 980M both might run toasty.

 

Only 3 heat pipes going to the radiator modules. One of the heat pipe shared by both CPU/GPU. Fifith heat pipe is shared but not connected to radiator

 

ha, i knew this was the reason why the ZM was heavier than the p150 even tho its thinner! concentrated copper, baby! loving this heatsink, makes me very optimistic as to the cooling capacity of this awesome machine

i was actually talking about german pricing thx for the config but u can bet theyre gonna add several houndred euro to that here in germany (based on comparing pricing of already available clevo models at bluemobility and schenker for example)

SE with 970m is 25mm, whereas SG with 980m is 29mm, thus the ZM is only 7mm thicker than the SG and 7mm THINNER than the p150 at 43mm

 

I'm expecting around £1950 (+/- £50)for the following configuration,

I7 4790S
GF 980M
16GB RAM
512GB M2 SSD

P65X high end configuration cost around £1850 with 2yr warranty.

 

if its really just 100-200€ more than the SG ill totally go for it. ill provide my own ram and ssd anyways and probably just go for the base cpu model and get the 4790K as an aftermarket upgrade myself

 

Germany and the UK have the least expensive Clevo resellers in europe, Schenker being the exception to that, since it is a proper rebrand (like Sager, Eurocom, or Origin) with a logo and everything (XMG) and they offer 2 years base warranty vs 1 year base warranty that other EU resellers have .
XMX.de is the cheapest Clevo reseller in Europe, and Scan.co.uk arriving second, Pcspecialist.co.uk is somewhere between them and Schenker, french resellers like Clevo.fr are a joke, selling on website at outrageous prices, though they will come close to matching prices with XMX.de if you haggle with them extensively .
All this to say the prices on Bluemobility are far from being the cheapest in Europe .