CeBIT 2009 News & Pics - Clevo booth - D900F, M980NU, etc.

kind of why i said this... it's better at doing cpu intensive applications

and im looking at the over all picture. and since i like the best of both worlds...m98 is the better choice. if i we're doing encoding all day and nothing else. i would take the i7.

flip side....

since they have neglected to show the bottom of the d900f and they had it locked down to the table. im wondering why...and just what does the bottom look like. i really can't make a move till those questions are answered. they could be trying to be sneaky and it does in fact run dual cards or that is one mighty big heat sink for that i7. since the gtx280m is the same size as the rest of the nvidia cards.

 

got new pics/info from Clevo clevo stand

 

The M98NU chassis as it is or a 17" alternative version with the i7 would be ideal. Hopefully the M98NU will support overclocking of the Qx9300 over 3.0ghz. Repeatably in their product cycle, Clevo maintains dated chassis' designs for too long--D900F (same as D901c) and M570TU (only 1 hard drive)--The Clevo design team is perpetually snoozing. Clevo needs to do more to step up their offerings including having more overclocking capabilities and adding ATI GPU options to their configurations to remain on top.

 

they did add some ati gpus or so they say...they are in the works.

 

Clevo guys said thay they are testing ATI cards for D900F and 18" one.

 

Xirurg well this is very good news

 

sure hope it aint them wanna be 4870's people are talking about....lol

 

Well... You know, that SLI/CF isn't perfect. It's a tough call using a second grill for just a few apps/games that are actually playable. Can you enjoy a little higher FPS with all the micro-stuttering? It's like playing a good online game when you have a server with a beautiful ping but too laggy to have any fun,... i7+x58+1GPU rocks anyway. It's gonna bench around 20k in 06 and m980 will be 14-15 tops. Choose your fate mortals..

 

there are many ways to just about cut out that stuttering and usually cf/sli is still twice as fast as a single stuttering jumping card at medium settings.

not sure why they just couldn't let us get a chance at the best of both worlds...im still holding the faith...till i see the inside of it...im keeping the faith!

 

Yes me too john i hope both beast to be with two cards but if the d900f is with only one this dosnt mean that this are not the most powerfull laptops now and not just power that is count

 

very true...

 

If the D900F does have a 2nd slot for a GPU available, Crossfire or SLi will work because of the X58 chipset. Can't say the same regarding the M980NU (SLi only).

 

and if that is the case...im buying both. ill get to the bottom of things that way..

 

Any offical release dates/ship dates on both the 17" and 18.4" systems from clevo?

 

hey this is Clevo after all
i just dont know why everywhere the news are that Eurocom equip D900F with Core i7 when they are just simple resellers
the most people really dont know what they are buying

 

they we're first to show it on their website and the rest is history....lol

 

exactly and we have to rely on this people
when they really dont know what they present

 

check this out guys, babyhemi found this information out, apparently, the d900f is sli ready... Now I'm really confused lol

"the new D900F will support Core i7 desktop processors, up to and including the Core i7 965. That means in addition to a quad-core processor -- able to run eight threads courtesy of with Hyper-Threading -- you also get triple-channel DDR3 memory support via three SO-DIMM slots capable of supporting up to 12GB of DDR3-1333 memory. In addition, graphics have been upgraded to support the latest mobile NVIDIA GPUs, including dual GTX 280M cards in SLI."


http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=578
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When are the new nvidia cards available???Is the M280 compatible with the m860tu???

 

Well i will said only this: we are talking about CLEVO after all
they say that it will have 17 and 18.4 inc Display we can choose

 

That may be an assumption on the part of Anandtech. Maybe they saw the D9xxF case and assumed it would be dual card like the previous models?

Could the power requirements for the i7 be keeping it from being able to use 2 video cards?

They clearly advertise the M980NU as dual card capable, why not do the same for the D900F if it truly is?

I wish someone at CeBit would just ask the Sager reps and end this speculation.

 

Does anyone knows it the M260 will be compatible with the current heatsink kit for the 8800m Gtx/9800m Gtx/Gt ????

 

Yeah I know darkeC, I know there is 2 members from nbr going to cbet, maybe they can ask?

 

Bluemercury there is no way to know this until we see the laptop inside

 

D900F will use 130W CPU!!! D901C used "only"95W CPU. This is why they cant use two GPUs... Thats the way is it

The most powerfull notebook will be D900F?
The most powerfull gaming notebook M980NU?

Eurocom is not just a reseller, as you know, thes used to offer extra solutions like Extreme QX9300 CPUs in M860TU, higher clocked CPUs like Q9650 (not every reseller does so, they offer 8GB ram, they can upgrade GPUs (9800M series are available, its not very usual) etc etc. They have everything first because Eurocom is NOT ONLY reseller. They have their R&D department working on 15O% it seems they just buy chasis for Clevo, than customize system from inside. This is also one of the reasons why Eurocom keeps prices little higher. He is leader in dekstop replacement industry between the resellers.

That is the only way how to explain why Eurocom so often mentioned in media. We in europe have never heart about Sager, but eurocom...

 

Well you would need to see the graphic card itself. Trust ive reached the point where i would only need to take a good look to check that myself.....are there any pics of the m260????

 

I thought you needed a new board for the qx9300 in the m860tu???

 

AndrewKW D901C use 130W CPU QX9650

 

Well, I thought its 95W, hmmm.

FOR QX9300 you need more than only new MB, atleast different heatsink.

I have a question. Do you guys know about any user with M860TU with Quad core?

 

If lucky i will get a new MB for QC next week.

 

he was talking with some journalists,and i accidentally overheard them

BTW,couple of pics-





also,screen is edge-to-edge glass and very glossy!

 

yeah, that's not a d90xf. that picture shows a vga port on the left side. while the d90xf doesn't have that.
but then that can still be up for scrutinizing as well since these pictures dont show the complete left side either!
(talking about the ones from cebit)

 

Thanks for the pics of the M98 and especially this one that includes the D900f to the left of the M98. Looks like there is no webcam for the M98?

 

Wait... Doesn't the D900F look like it has a 16:10 screen?

 

That's because it does. The M980NU has the 16:9 screen

 

Really?A new heatsink for the m860tu??So it also means that the m260 might need a different heatsink from the 9800/8800 series?

 

Just a thought guys... 90xF's gpu model is not confirmed, right? Could it be a desktop 280? I know, it's unrealistic to assume they could squeeze it inside, but...then it would be ok to have only 1 card , since it's already SLI-ed. Dreams....

 

If you have followed mobile cards.... there is a designation for Nvida mobile cards with an 'M'

Example:
desktop will be Nvidia 9800 GTX
mobile will be Nvidia 9800 M GTX

Same goes for the GTX200 cards:
desktop is GTX 280
mobile is GTX 280 M

no notebook uses desktop videocards internally.

only desktop CPUs have a chance of being used in notebooks... and Clevo is known to be the best to design a notebook to do just that.

 

That's what I thought, but I had also gotten the impression that screen manufacturers had already switched to 16:9 production. Does that mean we could still have some 16:10 models coming out?

 

They probably opted to put one graphics card in the i7 laptop due to the heat that is already created in it.

Nevertheless, what's wrong with gaming on only one card?

 

+1. i7 chips run VERY HOT.

The second card would help with a WUXGA screen, but it isn't essential.

 

I have been gaming on my single 7800GTX with WUXGA screen for three years now.... fine by me.

The D900F will just feel like my D900K (single GPU, great CPU, muliple HDDs), but updated.

Clevo seems to know what they are doing with their thermal designs.

My D900K uses a 90nm CPU that has a TDP of 110w .... and the temp does not exceed 65C ever.

 

And the new 45nm i7's have a TDP of 130W... not that big of a deal compared to your 90nm processor but a heck of a lot higher than the Core 2 Quad's at 95W or 65W for the 's' type and 45W for the mobile C2Q's.

 

... to someone not use to running dual cards..maybe...lol

i don't think it was the heat, but more like the thermal budget... clevo loves to follow the thermal budget

my qx runs anywhere between 40 watts up to about 130 watts, but then it's not over clocked either. i have seen my power adapter go as high as 309 watts when measured with over clocked gpu's(on a standard 220 watt adapter) so im gonna say more on the over all system power usage.

 

A non-overclocked QX9650 will have the same TDP as a Q9650.

 

Will Clevo give more info or make an announcement by the end of Cebit?

 

i am surprised clevo is going back to the 130w cpu's again when they had such a bad reputation with the p4 /ht in the d900t.,

 

QX9650 is also 130W TDP, like the i7 processors, which makes it all the more so odd, since the QX9650s are perfectly usable in the D901C.

 

It's actually 90w seeing as the D90xC chassis can't overclock a QX9650. The 130w TDP refers to the max thermal capacity when overclocked.

 

Fair enough. Isn't Intel supposed to be working on lower TDP i7 CPUs though?