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    Check out the Sager NP8690 (W860CU) - Intel i7 Calpella - It's here!

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by kagey, Sep 23, 2009.

  1. Seranis

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    Why in the world would someone post one of the first in-game videos of such a highly anticipated laptop both
    a) overclocked without mentioning it and
    b) exhibiting overheating artifacts

    ?
     
    Seranis, Oct 12, 2009
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  2. Purlpo

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    Thats a good question, but I guess presentation wasn't a big focus for them :p
     
    Purlpo, Oct 12, 2009
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  3. Angelic

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    Wasn't quite thought through, although I thought the artifacting was just from OC'ing too high, not overheating? :confused:
     
    Angelic, Oct 12, 2009
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  4. Purlpo

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    Theres already a few people with clevo W860CU's; can anyone confirm if it does really have incredibly crappy battery life?
     
    Purlpo, Oct 12, 2009
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    Yeah, I'm still waiting for a real review. If no one beats me to it, I'll post one when I get mine. Ordered Friday 10/9.
     
    jgs9455, Oct 12, 2009
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  6. GenTechPC

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    CPU around 62*C and GPU 69*C while paying Crysis:
     
    GenTechPC, Oct 12, 2009
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  7. shavenrat

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    Isn't that a screenshot of the W870?? I ask because I see 2 HDs... :confused:
     
    shavenrat, Oct 12, 2009
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  8. GenTechPC

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    It is NP8690, the 2nd HD was my external USB hard drive.
     
    GenTechPC, Oct 12, 2009
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  9. ERosov

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    yes, this would be nice to know.
     
    ERosov, Oct 12, 2009
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  10. Cafeine

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    NotebookJournal have already confirmed this.
    Just look at the 3800mAh battery and you don't even need a review for that point...
     
    Cafeine, Oct 12, 2009
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  11. Justin@XoticPC

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    With the brightness down and doing very basic web surfing we get about 2 Hours Battery Life. :)
     
    Justin@XoticPC, Oct 12, 2009
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  12. BrandonSi

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    Sweet.. Happens to be 1 hour and 55 minutes more than I need. Sometimes I need to change rooms.. :D
     
    BrandonSi, Oct 12, 2009
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  13. GenTechPC

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    Sorry I mean it's NP8690/W860CU.
     
    GenTechPC, Oct 12, 2009
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  14. Purlpo

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    That is pretty nice compared to what the notebookjournal.de review unit got... I'm pretty much set on this laptop, I guess I'll be ordering within 2 weeks.
     
    Purlpo, Oct 12, 2009
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  15. Boxcar

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    That would be nice. Are those times with the 55w i7-920xm cpu? I'm happy with anything 1.5hr+. That means I can work outside for a bit every day. :)
     
    Boxcar, Oct 12, 2009
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    Purlpo, Oct 12, 2009
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    Cobra03, Oct 12, 2009
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  18. ERosov

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    so maybe with the entry lvl cpu, and screen at midbrightness with headphones plugged in one could just barely watch a movie all the way thru?
     
    ERosov, Oct 12, 2009
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    Here is another live gameplay video:




    <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/d_O7jRzHVHQ&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width='560' height='340'>

    Batman Arkham Asylum is one of my favorite games right now.

    Fraps is running to show FPS but recording done via camcorder.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: May 6, 2015
    ViciousXUSMC, Oct 13, 2009
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  20. Mandrake

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    That's awesome. He's using a camcorder? looks better than that.
     
    Mandrake, Oct 13, 2009
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  21. bennyg

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    Can someone tell me about CPU overclocking options in BIOS. Are there any?

    And what's the opinions about the thermal solution. Can the CPU/GPU heatsinks/fans handle the heat well?
     
    bennyg, Oct 13, 2009
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  22. electrosoft

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    True, those at Xotic and Gentech, what overclocking options are there in BIOS with the 920xm if any?
     
    electrosoft, Oct 13, 2009
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  23. Angelic

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    The extreme CPU's normally allow you to overclock.
     
    Angelic, Oct 13, 2009
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  24. bennyg

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    of course X's have unlocked multipliers, but I'm talking about those 99.999% of us who dont have a stupid amount of cash to blow on a "xtreme"ly overpriced CPU.
     
    bennyg, Oct 13, 2009
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  25. electrosoft

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    Yes, the chip itself is unlocked, but as has been the bane of many Extreme chip owners in the past, clevo isn't exactly embracing of a BIOS that allows Extreme chips to flex. I'm wondering if the production level units with 920xm chips have BIOS options for real BIOS level overclocking.

    Since Xotic and Gentech have units they are testing/using, I am wondering exactly what options are available via BIOS for overclocking extreme chips or tweaking memory?
     
    electrosoft, Oct 13, 2009
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  26. alexnvidia

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    based on notebookjournal's review, it W860CU does allow OC in the 920XM. but i would prefer to see an actual screenshot that shows the OC potential in BIOS rather than taking them for their word. they have made some mistakes in their review of the W860CU before, so im a bit more cautious now.
     
    alexnvidia, Oct 13, 2009
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  27. Justin@XoticPC

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    Unfortunately there are no OC options with the 920XM in the 8690 bios at this time. :(
     
    Justin@XoticPC, Oct 13, 2009
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    Speaking of the BIOS, anyone tell me what kind this is, Phoenix, Award, etc..?
     
    BrandonSi, Oct 13, 2009
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  29. Justin@XoticPC

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    ^^ Phoenix Bios
     
    Justin@XoticPC, Oct 13, 2009
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  30. BrandonSi

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    Thank you sir!
     
    BrandonSi, Oct 13, 2009
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  31. Angelic

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    Sweet. I'm very surprised you can't overclock though, that kind of sucks. If I was gonna pay over 800 bucks for the top end extreme CPU, I would want overclocking to help justify that cost. :(

    Do you think Sager will change this in the future? I know these are new CPU's and it's early, so I don't expect you to know. I suppose what I'm asking is, does Sager normally frown on overclocking?
     
    Angelic, Oct 13, 2009
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  32. Donald@Paladin44

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    Overclocking is not frowned upon, but once overclocked the entire system has to stay within the thermal budget.

    Sager is still testing, so at this time we just don't know whether OC will be an option in the future.
     
    Donald@Paladin44, Oct 13, 2009
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  33. Boxcar

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    Please make it so. :) This system is already over kill for me but I never shy away from trying to make things better / faster.
     
    Boxcar, Oct 13, 2009
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  34. Donald@Paladin44

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    Only the i7-920XM will be overclockable IF they decide to unlock the BIOS
     
    Donald@Paladin44, Oct 13, 2009
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  35. Boxcar

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    Those guys! ;) It would still be cool to see. Makes me wish I had a grand to throw around.
     
    Boxcar, Oct 13, 2009
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  36. alexnvidia

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    that's the unique part of extreme processors. the multiplier is unlocked. this is the biggest premium that u have to pay for (among other things like a speed bump, and extreme memory profile).

    now i wonder how did the folks at notebookjournal peform OC on the 920XM if the W860CU's BIOS has no OC options.. or this is OC limitation only applies to sager systems?

    anyone who has received systems from other companies, any feedback will be much appreciated.
     
    alexnvidia, Oct 13, 2009
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  37. bennyg

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    As thermal budget of 720/820qm is 45W and 920 is 55W, if any CPUs should be allowed to be overclocked it's not the Extreme one that doesn't have the heat headroom!

    But of course marketing and logic are often diametrically opposed ...
     
    bennyg, Oct 13, 2009
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  38. anothergeek

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    I always thought the same.
     
    anothergeek, Oct 13, 2009
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  39. dalingrin

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    I always assumed the quoted 55w TDP was because of the of the unlocked multiplier. I find it hard to believe the measly increase in default clock rate would make the CPU jump 10w TDP. I though of it as Intel's way of ensuring OEMs only allow the 920QM in a chassis with proper thermal headroom.
     
    dalingrin, Oct 13, 2009
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  40. spybenj

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    Bout to order it from eurocom, any reseller's on nbr that I can talk to?
     
    spybenj, Oct 13, 2009
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  41. Neil McRae

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    powernotebooks and xoticpc.com have to be on the list!
     
    Neil McRae, Oct 13, 2009
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  42. -V-

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    You know that Eurocom is a lot lot more expensive (even factoring in shipping, taxes, brokerage fees) than just about any US Clevo reseller, right?
     
    -V-, Oct 13, 2009
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    And this is exactly why it rocks to have these fine gents on the boards, btw.

    Thanks. :)
     
    electrosoft, Oct 13, 2009
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  44. spybenj

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    Yea, they pricematch though. Im getting the same price I would with xotic, but its a canadian company with faster shipping and a cheaper 2 year warranty
     
    spybenj, Oct 13, 2009
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  45. -V-

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    Hmmm... last time I tried to price match, they said they couldn't anymore because of the differences in the US/Canadian dollar. What sort of pricematch were you able to get?
     
    -V-, Oct 13, 2009
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  46. spybenj

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    Theyre matching it without the cash discount, because the usd/cad is so close now they'll do it, though they are charging $50 for the shipping which is usually free. Yea I tried before also, with the 5797 and they said no, but I guess because its a new model and the economy is so poor now they will :(/ :)
     
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  47. -V-

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    Wow... if that's the case, I'm all over that like white on rice.
     
    -V-, Oct 13, 2009
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  48. spybenj

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    You just have to try a few times, I emailed them 3 quotes, pctorque xotic and power-notebook :)
     
    spybenj, Oct 13, 2009
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  49. kevindd992002

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    So did Eurocom price match?
     
    kevindd992002, Oct 17, 2009
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    For him they supposedly did... I emailed them on Wednesday, and have yet to hear a response.
     
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