Clevo 2019

Aw, shame Was hoping to a return to the glorious productivity days of 16:10 laptops..

 

From

"Additionally, there will also be a 15.6-inch model with the same CPU and RTX 2060 GPU, plus all the 16.1-inch models will also get versions with 17.3-inch displays (P97 series). The P96 series will come with slim bezel FHD 144 Hz displays, 180 W power supplies, RAM overclocking options, and no Thunderbolt 3 connector."

No

 

Well as much as I hate Apple, have to hand it to them - 10 years since the 16:10 fad in laptops died, and they are still providing this aspect ratio, making them the only laptop manufacturer to my knowledge that does so in 2019.

 

There's some lenovo and xiaomi laptops that have 3:2(touchscreen). I like the aspect ratio too for websites and productivity but I don't know how good they're for gaming compatibility unless you like cinematic black bars lol

 

Asus's new Studio Book S has a 16:10 screen:

https://www.windowscentral.com/asus-studiobook-s-creators-jams-17-inch-display-15-inch-chassis

"The 16:10 display on the StudioBook S (W700) measures at 17 inches, but it comes packed inside a chassis the size of a typical 15-inch laptop. That's largely thanks to ASUS' NanoEdge design, which includes thin bezels measuring 5.3mm. And because this mobile workstation is targeted at creators, the screen is rated at 97 percent coverage of the DCI-P3 color space and is Pantone validated.

On the inside, the StudioBook S comes with Intel Core i7-8750H or Xeon E-2176M processors. Pushing its graphics capabilities is the NVIDIA Quadro P3200, which should prove powerful enough for most creative tasks. That's backed up by up to 64GB of RAM and up to 4TB of SSD storage."

Of course it's got a "high extraction force" "removable" CPU and GPU, for reliable component seating on the go.

I miss my 1920x1200 monitors and laptop displays too, so much more code on the screen, sigh.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ts-video-articles.826767/page-8#post-10843927

 

I grew up in a 4:3 world. A lot of movies would either get cropped or kept in their original cinematic ratio when aired on TV. So, I don't mind the black bars, but I do mind stretching. And this used to be a problem back when I had a 16:10 laptop in 2008. Most games would not support that ratio, so they would stretch to fill the black space, resulting in distortion. Nowadays though, that's no longer a problem as both nvidia and amd have an option in the driver to "preserve aspect ratio" when playing old content.

Anyway, Clevo's strength has always been the ability to fully customize and replace everything as needed. So if anyone would be able to offer different screen ratio panels, I would have bet on Clevo.

That looks intriguing! Guess CES still isn't over, so gonna keep my eyes peeled! Thanks

 

That Asus looks great, wish they had a model with a normal GTX/RTX video card tho, especially with the Xeons higher base/turbo(don't think Xeons ship with anything other than Quadros or FirePros though so, why no 8850H)

Still excited to see what these Clevos will offer

 

There is something I do not really understand since so far I did not really follow AW until now.

The AW laptop has a 510W adapter (330+180) and this is NOT enough (?!) and thus AW allows it to draw power from the battery , but when the battery drops to 20% the laptop will power throttle ?!
Did I just understand this correctly ?
Because If I do then it seems to me AW can't build an energy efficient laptop.

I do not wish to defend Clevo but how the hell can Clevo solve the power issue in a P775 with 9900k+rtx2080 using 1x 330W adapter but AW can't with 510W?!
Or Clevo is/will be a power throttling mess from the start and AW will be only a throttling mess after 1--3 hour of gaming (when battery reaches 20%)?

Just watched xoticpc review of the P775tm from last year and they got 90C with gtx 1080 in Rise of the Tomb Raider...this is really bad considering this card throttles at 88C.
If Clevo did not solve this with a brand new cooling solution then prepare yourself for some hardcore throttling and space invaders gaming.

 

Not all brand support max usage from the psu. In the older days MSI allowed less power from psu while gaming on AC. Once the battery was empty and needed charging after battery boost the psu delivered more than rated psu capacity.

Fully used Delta 330w is 400W from the wall. No problem.

 

I wish clevo would design a DTR 3" thick laptop that look like that^

 

And of course alienware has probably capped the total usage to 510w so adding another 330w psu to replace the 180w won't do anything. Just like the alienware 18 r3 days

 

At least, with a lot of hassle, and ec mods there was a way around it. I believe that the 330w psu can use 400w I have two gtx 1080 in sli running off it with a 8700k. No cut off either in games.

 

Two 1080 on SLI + 8700K on one 330W PSU?

 

Yep, somehow no issues up till now. OK I did change the 8700k to a 8700t now. That has dramatically reduced tdp from an average of 90w to 30w and no need to delid. You wouldn't believe it, no metal paste just normal artic mx5 and max temps are 65c!

So two gtx 1080s have a tdp of 300w. And the cpu had a tdp of 45w. System must use another 20 to 30w which means the PSU is near maxing out at 360w to 380w.

Edit: I need to change my sig. I sourced the cards from a gt83vr which I bought from taobao. Will keep the barebone, its a neat machine!

 

Sorry but I think this is impossible. My single 1080 + [email protected] draws at max load (CPU+GPU 3dmark Firestrike Combine test) about ~310W from wall. No offense but I think you did not test your laptop well.
My sample (last test is combined test):
Look that GPU hold its stock core clock ~1850Mhz

I think your config should draw from the wall at least 450W if not ~500W. Rmember, you do not just have gpu and cpu in your laptop (HDDs, SSDs, Ram, LCD and motherboard all need power)

 

I guess this is probably true as I have not done a 3dmark benchmark on it yet.

Maybe games are utilizing one card only? I don't know. I'll do a benchmark and let you know.

 

don't need your benchmarks. I just wanted you to not waste your machine's potential . You have 2 gpu and maybe for example, only 10% more performance than one GPU, and for a small cash you can have, for example, + 50% or more? Who knows.

 

I got the gt83vr for $800 believe it or not. So technically I got 2 gtx 1080s for the price of one gtx 1070 with sli connector.

Also my psu shut off straight away when the bechmark loaded. The PSU doesn't seem to be turning on now lol.

Always have suppliers if you want to get into laptop upgrading/repairing/selling, everything will be much cheaper.

 

Why go from a k to a t? You can just adjust the clocks yourself.

 

I put the 8700k in my desktop and sold it to maximise profit.

I had a 8700t es edition. Overclocked blck to increase 8700t turbo clocks. No throttling and no cpu fan noise.

 

One GPU will be fine but two will overload the brick if the system is fully loaded.

 

I thought you were talking about a P870 with two 1080?

 

He salvaged the cards from that machine according to him.

 

16.1"? That's new. Definitely interesting. Hopefully we get some coverage of these from some youtubers.

 

have you delid+repaste 8700T plus UV+OC+powerlimit boost? ? if yes,what is your cinebench 15 multicore score? and see how much clockspeed you can push 8700t it on all cores(or most cores especially 1st one) as for @ stock,it performs aroung 8600K
I want to see If 8700T can go high with these tweaks up to 8700 performance,cinebench score ~1350 cb and stays cooler or not

I have hyper-linked each 8700T mentioned to different benchmarks from various sources if anybody is interested.
thanks in advance

 

any idea on release date for these laptops? for example from aftershock or other resellers?

 

Do not know about Asia but most EU (DreamMachines, Obisidian) and Us resellers (HID) mention that they would have them in stock by 29. Jan

 

Isn't the 8700T the same core as the 8700K , just undervolted and underclocked?

 

Let's hope we have 4K panel options.

 

It's not really even undervolted, it's just the voltage/frequency curve is cut short so it wont go faster.

 

Alleged cooling changes

p775


pb50

 

Here is current P775TM heatsink for comparison. Looks like they re-unified it and share one of the GPU heatpipes with the CPU now, which I guess makes sense since GPU TDP went down but CPU TDP went up.

 

Nice! Got any more pics of the P775 cooling?

 

First Order must be Confirmed ! heh

 

4K Display is the same like before.

 

coming soon!

 

Will the form factor of a rtx 2080 mxm be the same as the gtx 1080 mxm from clevo. If so will it fit in a p870tmg??

 

Seems Clevo still can't design a better cooling...would it be so hard to drive the heatpipes inside the radiators for better heat dissipation instead of gluing them on top of them ?

 

Yes

 

I'm buying one right now then

 

Would I be able to put a RTX 2070 into my P775DM3-G?

 

Why not wait? Jan 29th you can order with RTX 2080 P870TM-R

 

Fair point, I'll wait.

 

I would not be 100% sure about that.
For starters the BIOS needs to support it.

Also the old MXM board the GPU core was mostly in the middle of the board but on the new one it looks to me if it shifted some to the left side, so the cooling is probably not compatible.

 

So maybe I'll need BIOS update, new cooling system plus the savage value of the RTX2070. Maybe it doesn't worth the costs.

 

No SLI?

I'd take my chances with the p870tmg instead (if there is sli support on the gpu)...

 

There is no SLI period on mobile RTX.

 

Well, I guess I'll stick to my setup for a while longer.

 

That setup is designed to skip a generation before you think seriously about upgrading...

 

depends on the severity of your upgrade itch