Clevo 2019

Sure but the 750 is thin - thick - thin on the core itself while the 770 is thick - thick - thick.

The number is less important so yes while you are correct it does not mean much.

 

It is significant because the 3rd GPU heatpipe on the P775 runs over the CPU as well, so the CPU is dumping its heat onto the GPU core and fin stack. The P750 heatsink is less unified and doesn’t suffer from sigificant heat bleed under combined load as a result. The new P775 heatsink reminds me of my original P750 heatsink, which had issues with heat bleed, and the joint heatpipe didn’t even run over the GPU core on that one.

 

The fact it did not run over the core is your answer.

 

If it had run over the GPU core, the heat bleed would’ve been even worse.

 

Your ignoring the impact the GPU temperature has on the flow of the vapor in the heatpipe.

Where you had the CPU dumping the heat straight to the heatsink now, should the GPU reach the same temperature the flow between the CPU and GPU will stop and instead each will have its own flow to the heatsink with very little movement between the two.

The situation you describe is what will happen to the GPU when it is idle and the CPU is at full load and it will be warmed yes but the thermal flow from the heatsink is much bigger.

 

Not certain if this is a variant of the new PB5, Hasee doesn't use Clevo model names.

 

Another alleged Terrans Force marketing material. This time it's about RTX 2070 in X599 model which I believe is P750.

 

I like that design, I hope it's a Clevo model. I need to upgrade bad from my P170HM and I really like all the ports in the back. I like the layout of the 775 and the 870 but those are a little out of my price range and all the current BGA models have all the ports on the side. Maybe I'm one of the few that actually use a laptop on my lap instead of a desk but I cant have all the wires coming out of the sides. I mostly use mine while I sit on the left side of the couch so I didn't like all the ports on the sides for pretty much most current models. One more day for the NDA amirite?

 

I believe it is a TongFan, not a Clevo

Enviado do meu SM-N950F através do Tapatalk

 

this should be a Clevo PB50
https://www.notebookcheck.pl/Clevo-PB50ED-i-PB50EF.392401.0.html

 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/GeFor...t-up-to-50-percent-underclocked.401111.0.html

"The Alienware Area-51m, for example, will run the full-power RTX 2080 mobile GPU at 180 W in order provide a performance level closer to the desktop RTX 2080 reference."

I posted this in the NVIDIA thread as well, but has anyone seen confirmation that this is realistic? I've seen references to 180W GPU headroom, but not a source showing that OEMs were actually running the mobile 2080 at 180W. A P750/775 with that much room makes a ton more sense.

That would be fantastic news come tomorrow's announcements.

 

Looks like it may be a viable upgrade over the gtx 1080 after all.

 

Except thats talking about the AW 51M, which uses DGFF and not MXM

 

If the 2080 mxm is 150w with a tdp mod I don't see why it can't hit higher base and memory clocks at 180w.

 

Yes, I should specify that I meant 180W GPU headroom reported for the 51m. Which is different than saying that the mobile 2080 would run at 180W. It's the first time I'm seeing reporting on someone able/planning to do that, so I'd obviously hope to see some flexibility on the Clevo MXM version if this isn't just misreporting.

 

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compa...e-vs-Nvidia-GeForce-RTX-2080/m165564vsm700275

This benchmark is from the ACER Predator Triton 500 PT515-51-72G3, which has a max q edition of the rtx 2080 compared to a gtx 1080 laptop. As you can see from the benchmark above it is roughly 6% faster, it could be more or less (can't depend on just one benchmark but its all we have lol).
If we take into account what @The Underdog has linked and previous percentage differences between max q and normal gpu variants then the Rtx 2080 mobile mxm could be anywhere from 20 to 30% faster than a gtx 1080 mobile mxm.

Finally, with a tdp mod to 180w this could become 40% faster than a 1080 mxm and roughly equivalent to the alienware 51m rtx 2080...

 

The difference between the 1080 and 2080 has been known for quite some time to be fair.

 

None know what voltage Nvidia will give the Mobile chips.

 

C'mon, nVidia, give us a candy.

 

I hope so but I don't think that's the case. The PB50 has the power button in the middle, while the Hasee has the power button on the right. The top bezel in the render you posted looks much thicker too. Too bad, I really liked the port placement on the Hasee...

However, nothing is written on stone until tomorrow, so they may just be different renders of the same product at different pre-production stages. Come on, PB50, please be good

 

There are probably slight cosmetic diffferecnes due to PB50 vs. PB51 as well.

 

You're right, that's absolutely possible. Well, let's hope for the best, I'd like a replacement for my 980m

 

According to a chinese taobqo sellor, the rtx2080/2070 mxm has powerlimit due of connector, limited to 70% of full power.
Only 2060 is 100%
hope is not true

 

At 160w the 2060 would then be too high of a power draw, hardly allowing for much differentiation between that and a 2070 Max-Q or non-Max-Q, I'd expect the 2060 power to be dropped proportionally as well.

 

Even if it was, there are ways to push more power through that connector.

 

From taobao

 

Since no more sli, at least then the second gpu power connector can be uselfull with some mod

 

Slot and power connector have handled more with the 10 series.

 

Allegedly P775 with 9900k and rtx2080



when stressed, cpu is limited by thermal, gpu is limited by power

 

Surely the power limit can be removed? Like with prema mod vbios on the old gpus.

 

Hope so, don't see hardware obstacles to this, the 2080 mxm has total 11 power phases, not going boom easily.

I think the 9900k was running at around 120w average with peaks to 145w under stress, the 330w power brick could be problematic in the end.

 

Can you upload a picture with HWInfo64, want to see after a firestrike bm, what max watt is for your 9900k and 2080rtx. Maybe you right 330W is not enaugh

 

In all honesty do we really need a 9900k in a gaming laptop. A 8700k is more than enough, that will lower the heat and tdp considerably.
A 330w charger will just about keep up with the rtx 2080 + 8700k combo, I think anyways...

 

For gaming my pick would be the 9700k with 8 real cores.

 

If I had the option to choose any cpu I would really want a ryzen 7 2700x in a clevo with an rtx GPU. That would make a solid gaming + streaming + rendering laptop.

 

I heard there was an embargo being lifted today, any news on changes to P775 or P870?

I've heard that the P870 wont support RTXs, and from what I've seen people like Obsidian and Eurocom are not doing P870 on their site.

 

9900k is better in that instance.

 

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060, RTX 2070 & RTX 2080 Laptop GPUs Performance Review

https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDI...-Laptop-GPUs-Performance-Review.401266.0.html

 

Some early data up featuring the Schenker XMG Ultra 15. Helpful for the sake of comparison between RTX models and Pascal. At least this offers a sense of how the MXM is holding up.

What's also interesting is the resolution comparisons since the RTX 2080 really pulls ahead at 4k. So tough choice for someone in the market like me. Of the RTX 2080/2070 and GTX 1080, the 2070 is the cheapest (eurocom) and all perform well at 1080p ultra. If I buy a P750, I guess the 2080 would only be worthwhile if I'm planning to use an external 4k monitor. Not sure I'd be interested in a 4k/60hz laptop panel.

 

I've already got a 4k 60hz panel, it would be perfect for me if this works in a p870km.

 

Dell's new flagship Alienware Area-51m with Rtx 2080+9900K vs. the small Schenker 15 inch with same Gpu but 9700K
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...1m-owners-lounge.826831/page-54#post-10855277

 

I guess this confirms Area-15m cannot deal with 9900k heat.

 

As if any laptop can

 

With some love it can be done but stock is tricky.

 

It's really pushing the boundaries for even the Vapor chamber

 

It will need delidding, the crappy solder they put on it doesn't cut it along with the thick adhesive applied to the ihs. Even liquid metal would perform better with all this cleaned up.

Constant heat from a heat gun with a metal delidding tool should do it, that indium should come off without an issue!

When I get my hands on one I'll try it, won't be for a couple of months though. Need that rtx 2080 first!

 

Did you watch the video from actually hardcore overclocking regarding the idea that the solder is rubbish?

 

Poetry.

 

How's amds stock lol, have they made any profit from this 'situation'

 

Hi guys i have published my review of Clevo P775TM-1 with RTX 2060. I don't see relevant lounge for this model so i'm posting it here (review is in Polish).

https://pclab.pl/art79718.html