Clevo 2019

What notebook are apple putting the radeon vii in?

 

Not the Radeon VII specifically, but they're using AMD cards in their current lineup, arent'they? And I see no sign of them switching back to NVIDIA anytime soon...

 

A 300w chip is unusable given the market conditions, the smaller ones not so much.

Also I can understand why they do it too.

 

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Just wondering how come the Clevo 775TM-G with i9 9900K and RTX2080 only needs 1x 330w power supply? I would of though it wouldn't be enough to power the beast? I currently have an MSI GT75 and replaced the 2x 230w with the Eurocom 780w (which I know will work with the Clevo which I plan to buy

 

Because stock and even with a tweak it's enough.

 

I actually don't. Without CUDA, they lost the scientific computation train. Nowadays you see much less Macs in a computer science department than it used to be.

 

Applications that only do CUDA, and not supporting OpenCL are poorly supported, esp since AMD cards are compute beasts.

 

The hassle with nvidia was just not worth it.

 

Erm, what? Probably we're talking about different things, because I don't know any decent machine learning/deep learning library that's OpenCL based. Tensorflow, Theano, caffee, etc., they all require CUDA, and the portings to OpenCL are experimental at best. AMD cards may be compute beasts, but if you go and buy cloud GPU instances on AWS or Azure you'll find only NVIDIA GPUs available. Why? No CUDA, no game, boy.

Don't get me wrong, I would absolutely love an AMD-based competition in the deep learning field, and I would, even more, love an open source library like OpenCL beating the crap out of CUDA. But (and I speak for my field) I think they're both years behind both in terms of performance and of library support.

(we're going off topic by the way)

 

What kind of hassle? Serious question, I'm not trolling.

 

They got on the wrong side of each other in terms of drivers, the package issues causing failures and other issues in the background too. Notice all consoles are AMD? Similar stories there.

 

Enduro driver woes and high failure rate on 7970M MXM boards.

 

Ironically after the big 680m > 7970m due to optimus being better than enduro push in 2012, AMD greatly improved Enduro with Enduro offering better performance than optimus in later years.

Yes the 7970m had a higher failure rate. This was strange because AMD used a much higher quality pcb than Nvidia.

 

...Apple falling out with NVIDIA due to faulty AMD MXM boards? What? I think I'm missing something here

 

Sorry, thought we were talking about Clevo in a Clevo thread.

 

Yes, we went a little off topic I guess.

 

A co-worker of mine just got the Eluktronics Mech 17 a couple days ago. He got it w/16Gb ram, 512Gb nvme pci ssd and the RTX2070. When we compared it my P670RS-G it"s lighter, a bit thinner. Graphics are great.

Sam

 

That’s cool. Let me know if he got the Nvidia drivers working. Some people are having issues with the 2070 card not being recognized and Control Center issues. Hope he gets a great fire strike score. I want either the Clevo P960 series or the Mech 17 or if Clevo has something else coming down the pipe with full RTX cards I’m game.

 

I couldn’t get my drivers to work and sent the system back thinking about getting the Clevo 16.1” with 2080mq any one see one yet ?

 

clevo n960TF(8700/9700K UV + RTX2070 ) is what i am waiting for reviews.
and the link with many new models from clevo on it(with euro price) ,if someone's new, here

 

I like the idea of getting a i7-8700 or greater CPU. My only concern is looking at the photos of the rear panel. Only one side has exhaust vents. Does it then have a small pop out panel for ram and battery compartment on the bottom? I worry about the thermals but otherwise I am intrigue.

 

Do we know if any of the EU resellers will offer an upgrade program from pascal to RTX2070/2080?

 

With an h chipset they wont ship with k processors or overclock.

 

We know. This looks like a standard 8700.

 

It will be and the cooling is likely designed for 65w CPUs.

 

Look here for updates. He saw one in person before ordering.

 

it's basically n950TP6 and NB review...but with 16.1" display(&probably or not,an upgraded heatsink/heatpipes) but as it's desktop cpu,there is more ways to cool it down.

 

Hasee Z8-CR7P1 (PB50ED)


clevo, seriously wtf...

 

Yeah, it does not look very good... Definitely *looks like* there was space for additional heatpipes.

But as usual, let's wait for the reviews.

 

That does not look good ..


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And I thought they would get rid of the tripod assembly...

 

The PBx0EF (2070) model uses the 5 pipe design and the PBx0ED (2060) model the 3.5 pipes design.
The referenced graphics are from very old material that was not for public consumption and taken out of context.

 

That's effing good news! I really want that PB50EF now. Waiting impatiently for the reviews. And possibly for the 8C/16T 9th gen i7

 

So they photo is not what the 2080mq will have


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The PB series doesn’t come with Max-Q GPUs.

 

A bit heavier than what I’m looking for but improved thermals looks ideal for full power everything. Any word on price? Seems so far out for release dates.

 

Got the 2070 in the mail. Power is the main limiting factor. 60c and 100% load is 1620 boost at stock. If adding a 100mhz overclock, it actually beats the desktop GPU.

If I could increase the Power limit, it would probably push it to compete with the 1080ti.

 

I think in Europe it's sold only by XMG right now. You will need at least 2200-2300 € though.

 

I thought PB series is positioned above P9, is that not the case?
Since both are from P family I assumed the thicker chassis meant all PB models will have this and thus equal or better cooling (especially CPU) than P9 with like for like CPU+GPU.


P9 cooling



Or perhaps they aren't too concerned because PB will get the same 8750h Tau~=18s treatment P9 received?

 

Yep, yet they only have the 15" not the 17 " PB71XX (XMG Pro17) model. They said they would be having it soon. Hopefully with QHD or 4K panels. Bring it home @XMG

 

The rumours are that PB7 model mass production is due to start after CNY holiday.

 

The PB cooling is a lot thicker than P9. PB model cooling capacity has been increased by 25% over the P6 model it succeeds.

 

Maybe it's me, but at this point it's just not worth buying the pb5/7 series with an 8th gen processor. If we wait one more month, then Coffee Lake Refresh mobile CPUs should hit the shelves...

 

In that case, would the Clevo need to provide a newer version of PB5XX/PB7XX series to accommodate the 9th gen 8-core cpus? That would be my ultimate laptop, a 9th gen cpu with 3K/4K panel and Rtx2070

 

I would buy that to replace my P650SG in a heartbeat. But hey I can dream about getting a 4K Panel right?

 

Are you guys referring to a model like this?

https://www.hidevolution.com/evoc-pb71ef-g-rtx-2070.html

 

Full 2070 or 2080mq? What would be your choice?

 

There are too many variables to give a valid answer. The 2080mq is the 80w model or the 90w one? What cooling are we using? How thick is the laptop? What PSU? At what price?

It's better to answer "which laptop". For me, having a thicker laptop with a 2070 is better then a thin one with a 2080 max-q, which may have an underclocked card, suffer from throttling, have less slots for RAM or storage, less overclocking potential, etc

 

thanks @redbytes
probably waiting for PB71 (XMG Pro 17)

 

That puts it in range of a P750TM1-G w/2070 $1600 (no cpu) at RjTech. I was pricing this out barebones and adding components for fun. I thought maybe using a i7-8700 if supported for a low 65w and upgrade cpu later. Isn’t an i9-9900k just overkill? It seems a i7-8700k / i7-9700k is plenty for work and play. The value add for me in going thicker is doing better than any newer BGA e.g. i9-8950HK. I imagine the PB5XX weighs less with potentially more panel choices?