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    Clevo 8800M GTX New BIOS (D901C & M570RU)

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by GanGstaOne, Jun 17, 2008.

  1. skynetwork

    skynetwork Notebook Consultant

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    not sure, i do not have an extreme cpu :(
     
  2. theriko

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    Via the official clevo bios you can only take the x9000's to 3.2GHz, I don't know if the dell bioses will take the mult up to 17 (3.4GHz) or if that was done with fsb
     
  3. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    I've noticed no difference in stability between .34 and .40.. with both the card is not stable @ 625 1600 980... I wait to change thermal compound, because I don't understand why with D901 the card is more overcloccable... the only difference MUST be in the GPU cooler..
     
  4. Neil@Kobalt

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    The GPU cooler is much better in a D901C than a 570/571 so it will affect the max stable OC you can reach, they do also have different MBs so............
     
  5. Deodot

    Deodot Notebook Consultant

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    I have the .18 Vbios

    Max voltage i can set in nbitor is 1.05, perhaps you can tell if there is a way to set it higher.

    On 600-1500-950 I'm getting 14400 points. :) Pretty low clock but great score.. No crashing.

    max temp 65 C after hours of gaming.
     
  6. eleron911

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    Hmm, I don`t know about that. I`ve been debating with Rambo29 and turns out my GPU is cooler than his,even if I have the older style RU and a more power hungry GPU (7950GTX).
     
  7. The_Observer

    The_Observer 9262 is the best:)

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    Hi
    It could be due to many factors like lack of AS5 or something.I am not sure for this massive difference.

     
  8. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    Could you tell me how have you dumped it? Nibitor refuses to open it... however can you tell us just the bios date??
     
  9. GanGstaOne

    GanGstaOne Notebook Evangelist

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    hehehe this is System bios for D901C nibitor can be used only for NVIDIA Video BIOS and this is the lasted bios for D901C
     
  10. Deodot

    Deodot Notebook Consultant

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    Haha Yes it is :)

    I called it "V .17" in my files. And when i looked them thru yesterday night i thought i meant "VBIOS" with the "V" but of course the "V" stod for "Version"

    Sorry about that, i was really tired yesterday.. and a little bit drunk too :)

    I only have the .18 and .08
     
  11. AlanP

    AlanP Notebook Evangelist

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    So GanGstaOne, is it just that the Bios Software cannot be coded past 1.05v OR is it the Video Card that is not capable of adjusting beyond the 1.05v?

    I am assuming that the video card that stall at slightly higher clock seetings ar short on voltage... Heat does not seem to be a problem at all so far...
     
  12. GanGstaOne

    GanGstaOne Notebook Evangelist

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    the bios is locked at the 1,05 the card can be clocked much more you can see how much 8800M GTX have the same core like 8800GT G92
     
  13. emike09

    emike09 Overclocking Champion

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    I've got my .18 Bios running at 1.1v at 650/1625/950 with no issues at all. 3DM6 score of 10k on my NP5793 w/T9300. I'd like to move to a 1.15v BIOS. Heat doesn't seem to be a problem. When I run a game, I set the fans to max and the temps float around 60-65C, which is just fine for me. Theoretically, I should be able to hit up to 725/1800/950. In reality, I'd be happy hitting 700core.

    On a side note, its interesting that with my CPU overclocked to what it is, my temps hover around 50-60C on full load with fans set to low... got to love that new intel technology! If I could only overclock my CPU and GPU together...
     
  14. Arimus

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    Am I going nuts or was there a link earlier in this thread for a v17 bios (the laptop bios not the video card bios)?

    I'm sure I saw one when I was in work but couldn't get download it at the time and now I'm home can't find it...
     
  15. MKang25

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    Is there a program or something to use to change the clocks of the card for the bios flash?
     
  16. theriko

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    load the bios into nibitor and change the clocks/voltages in that, then flash with nvflash
     
  17. Garandhero

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    so i have the .14 bios.... any reason to update to a different one?
     
  18. Deodot

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    Yes i took it away cause i made a misstake..

    Do you want it?

    http://rapidshare.com/files/123998546/XR5_17.WPH.html
     
  19. emike09

    emike09 Overclocking Champion

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    Wow so I made a huge mistake...
    I tried flashing my vBIOS under FreeDOS, and when I attempted to do a backup, it came us with a wierd error message saying it could not be backup up... so i decided to force the new vBIOS on anyways, using -4 -5 -6! Well it got halfway through the BIOS, made a ton of noise from the internal speaker, and shut down. Guess what... it won't boot! No SLi to use for reflashing... guess I screwed up bad this time. Should have stayed with the Windows ME Bootdisk. Was it the 1.15v I tried to volt it to? Perhaps the FreeDos? Maybe another reason... Any ideas?

    theriko, I noticed in your sig that your running 800MHz mem. Did you increase your FSB to hit that, or will our systems take PC6400 ddr2?
     
  20. Arimus

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    Yes please, many thanks :)

    (And thanks as well for confirming I hadn't gone mad - despite rumours to the contrary ;) )

    Now to see if I have the guts to reflash my baby... (I'm happy enough reflashing military grade radios so god knows why I'm hesitating on my own kit.... other than the radios we've got ICE's etc for so I can rebuild them if I balls up)


    oh well:
    You want to download the following file:
    http://rapidshare.com/files/123998546/XR5_17.WPH | 2129 KB

    The download cannot be provided. Please check, if your browser supports Javascript.
     
  21. emike09

    emike09 Overclocking Champion

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    Would somebody be willing to post the key strokes required to set a default BIOS to boot to USB for a blind flash?
     
  22. The_Observer

    The_Observer 9262 is the best:)

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    You have to change the order in BIOS to boot from USB.Then have the nvflash,the rom file and make a bat file and add in
    nvflash -4 -5 -6 xxx.rom
     
  23. emike09

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    Right. I've got everything right from the BIOS on... but my BIOS is now set to default which does not boot to USB. Without the display, I can't change the BIOS boot order. Does anybody have the keystrokes for changing the Boot order, starting with F2?
     
  24. theriko

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    I'd get you the keystrokes but it's 3.30am here and I'm knackered... My ram is actually running at 667MHZ (I can up the fsb to make it run at 790 stable, but then I can't overclock the vid card). So technically, the 5793 can 'take' pc6400 ram, it'll just downclock it to 667MHz - though generally with better timings than native pc53/5400 ram.
     
  25. lndnny

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    F2 + Right + Right + Right + Long Part

    Long Part:
    I have no idea where the default USB key boot device is. Mine has been changed so many times already, so you will have to test it. Press the down button one times and press the plus on the numberpad. Press Escape and then Enter. This should have the computer POST again, make sure your usb key is plugged in. Wait roughly 10 seconds. Type nvflash "enteryourbackupbios.rom" and hit Enter. Then hit " y". If it doesn't beep, restart and try again. This time press down two times and plus two times and continue from there. You may have to repeat this many times adding one to the number of times you have to press down and plus. When you get the sharp BEEEEP, be glad, it's working. Wait roughly 15 -20 seconds to be sure. Then you can restart with Ctl + Alt + Del.

    That should be it, good luck,
    Dan
     
  26. MKang25

    MKang25 NBR Prisoner

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    The default location be changes each time? It doesn't have one specific name? Like say all the 5793's with the same hardware, bios etc.. bought during May 2008, 2 laptops like those would have different names for the USB start up thing you select in the bios?
     
  27. lndnny

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    No, I've changed mine and don't know where it started from.

    Dan
     
  28. psycroptik

    psycroptik Notebook Consultant

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    Ummm, I've hit 16k 3dmarks with my 9262.... :D
     
  29. DawidOku

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    Congratulations man :p

    Now post it on Futuremark website and show them that D901C rules :D :D :D
     
  30. Friar_Tuck

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    holy CRAP! 16k is HUGE! :eek:
     
  31. psycroptik

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    3dmark06 benchmarks really mean nothing for gaming...
    CPU gets me my score, which is really like +1fps in Crysis.
    That is 14.8K to 16k for +1fps ;)
     
  32. Wintersdark

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    It's much more practical for gaming comparisons when you're running 3dmark in the settings you'd be running games in - resolution, AA, etc.

    At the stock settings (where people typically run it) it's highly, highly cpu bound. Even small CPU overclocks give large gains, while graphical overclocks give small ones.

    However, in games, the opposite is found. GPU overclocks typically make a much larger difference than CPU ones. At least, given higher end systems such as these, where the processors are already performing well.

    The differences even out much better at higher settings in 3dmark, however. Nirvana ran some tests demonstrating this not too long ago, though I don't have the link handy.
     
  33. emike09

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    Thanks everyone for your help with getting my vBIOS blind flashed. Ended up having to remove the HDD to boot through into the USB. Up and running and everything is great! :)
     
  34. dazzyd

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    dude what settings did you use to get that score in 3dmark 06... im tryin to maximise and optimise my performance too. :D :D
     
  35. emike09

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    You ought to be getting more than 13k in 3DMark06... I'm hitting 10k with a dual core 2.5ghz and single 8800m gtx. Sounds like you might have a few optimization issues going on.

    I think I'm satisfied with my clock speeds and voltages. Running at the G92 native voltage of 1.15v Extra, with .8v Idle. Clocks of 650/1625/980, and I think I'm going to be content at these speeds. Can't seem to get above them. I took a risk and bumped the voltage to 1.2volts to see if I could squeeze 700core out of it, but I just don't think the PSU can pump enough power into it. 650 seems to be my stable limit. Perhaps with the next BIOS revision and drivers, I'll be able to go a bit higher. We'll see...

    Crysis Very High 1024x768 25-50fps, avg 31fps. Very playable :)
     
  36. dazzyd

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    10K for a single card is what u should be getting.. for the np9262 the scores have been around the 13K -14K mark for vista x64. but 16K is out there hence thats why i want to know what else can i tweak to get that perforrmance
     
  37. oile

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    I don't think that 650 1625 980 is very stable,emike... how long have you tested it? Running 2 3dmark or 3 GPU Crysis tests is not enough... I reccomend testing with Race Driver Grid wich is very OC sensitive for at least 1 hour.. wich are the temperatures?
     
  38. emike09

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    Oile
    My temps usually max at 65C. Not too bad if you ask me. I played Crysis for several hours yesterday with no issues at all. Asassins Creed, Call of Duty 4, and Flight Simulator X all ran flawlessly. Also, ATITOOL for about 3 hours with no artifacting. I am running on NZXT's Cryo notebook cooler, and that drops the temps alot.
    http://www.nzxt.com/products/cryo_lx/
    I don't have a copy of Race Driver Grid, but I don't really play racing games, and the games I'm running now are running perfectly... I don't really see the need to find an app that will crash the system.
     
  39. oile

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    Wow,65° is an awesome temperature, close to 60° of gangstaone.. yeah at this temps your OC could be safe.
     
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    16k is with XP SP3.
    I haven't tested Vista 32 or 64 bit yet...
     
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    hmm, do we have use the custom bios and custom driver to have the optimal performance of the 8800GTX sli?
    i want an optimal performance and quality in gaming,not benchmark but i dont want to increase any heat.
    can i do that?

    thx ^^

    btw, its for NP9262
     
  42. MKang25

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    Hmm so i grabbed my manhood and took the leap of flashing vbios 650/975/1550. Lets see how stable this is. Question whats the difference between the 169.xx drivers and the 175 drivers?
     
  43. dazzyd

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    awesome dude.. if you can try with vista x64 that would be great. maybe i shuld go the extra overclock now too.. :D
     
  44. emike09

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    I'm not sure the exact differences from the 169.xx drivers and the 175, but I'm running 177.39 and have had the best performance and stability of any driver so far. Everything seems so much more fluid in this version compared to the older drivers I had installed. I was hoping that this would include support for the PhysX drivers, that Geforce 8x,9x, and 2xx cards have recieved. So far, looks like only G200 and G92 desktop cards with PhysX support. Were getting close though! :)
     
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    Somewhat smoother - With 169, I had some stuttering in games that otherwise ran at high framerates - and better performance overall. 3dmark gained me about 500pts with the driver change.

    Also, probably better game compatibility, though I've not checked that. It's usually a motivating factor for new drivers.
     
  46. oile

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    After hours of testing... there is nothing to do, my 8800M won't OC stable over 625 1550 950, at least until a new high voltage vbios wiil be avalible..
    It doesn't depend on bios (tried all) or temps (crashes also @ 65°), I don't know..my card isn't good enough
     
  47. Shyster1

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    Try pm'ng dexgo - he's a member who did a lot of OC'ing - GPU and CPU - on a D90xC model; he disappeared for quite a while but just made a few postings earlier today. If there's a way of doing what you want, he may have an idea. Also, I believe Gangstaone is a veritable fount of OC wisdom, so you might trying pm'ng him as well.
     
  48. eleron911

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    Dexgo is gone. He hasn`t been heard of since quite a while now.
     
  49. Nirvana

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    @oile, why don't you use nibitor to change the voltage by yourself?
     
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    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Just went back and checked, and darn it if you aren't correct - got snookered by a necroposter - just goes to show what happens when I try to read forum posts too early in the morning before I've had enough coffee. :eek: :eek: :eek:
     
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