Clevo Bios Mods

hey guys, heres a lil comparison of my turbo boost frequencies before and after flashing the modded BIOS (@Prema: 32s duration works now, thanks again!). I ran Prime95 for 3-4 min each time and jotted down the results (listed are are frequencies the CPU would jump to):

Stock BIOS (45W/56W/12s):
1 thread = 3.4 / 3.5 Ghz
2 threads = 3.4 / 3.5 Ghz
3 threads = 3.2 / 3.3 Ghz
4 threads = 2.9 / 3.0 Ghz
5 threads = 2.5 / 2.9 / 3.0 Ghz
6 threads = 2.5 / 2.9 Ghz
7 threads = 2.5 / 2.8 / 2.9 Ghz
8 threads = 2.5 / 2.8 Ghz
Temp: 64-65 °C

Modded BIOS (60W/70W/32s):
1 thread = 3.4 / 3.5 Ghz (+0)
2 threads = 3.4 / 3.5 Ghz (+0)
3 threads = 3.3 / 3.4 Ghz (+0.1)
4 threads = 3.3 Ghz (+0.3)
5 threads = 2.5 / 3.3 Ghz (+0.3)
6 threads = 2.5 / 3.2 / 3.3 Ghz (+0.4)
7 threads = 2.5 / 3.2 Ghz (+0.3)
8 threads = 2.5 / 3.2 Ghz (+0.4)
Temp: 75-76 °C

So there it is, pretty happy with the result keep up the good work guys!

Cheers

 

I second this, if you don't know what you're doing, you're just might brick your clevo and cause a huge amount of pain (as well as cost) for the resellers.

But just some proof of potential (Keep in mind I've got a ~30 extra heatsinks strapped to my cpu heatsink)

2 Threads - 4.5Ghz
8 Threads - 3.6Ghz @ 99W Short Turbo 120s @ ~85C
8 Threads - 3.2Ghz @ 87W Long Turbo @ ~75C

Wprime 32m - 5.9 Seconds
Wprime 1024m - 225 Seconds (I could do better with a longer 200sec+ Short Turbo so the 200sec 1024m range is definitely possible)

 

I am happy for you guys!

The Turbo Time Limit we alter is not for Short Turbo Power, it`s for the long. We don`t touch short Turbo Time.
Also llynx is the cooling master across all testers with the highest TDP@such low temps.

 

W150HRM unlocked bios confirmed working by LLStarks.

Here is the link to the latest modded one with many options unlocked (ready to use):
https://rapidshare.com/files/735319651/W15HRMmod.zip



This bios can be simply unlocked using AMIBCP version 4.53. Just change the access/use to user for anything you want to unlock.
AMIBCP doesn't corrupt this bios, no special tricks needed.
The reason this bios can be unlocked is because all of the chapters are already unlocked.


While the P series have locked chapters (advanced/chipset and so on). It should be possible to eventually unlock the bios for the P series, but it will take some time to figure out. I have the same problem with my toshiba, can't unlock the good menus yet.

 

sounds promising! lotsa people patiently waiting here

cheers

 

Not that it will work for my laptop obv, but can you OC with the unlocked options for that mobo?
Also GL trying to figure out how Clevo is hiding the options.

 

Would have to check with LLStarks, but from what the guys over at the MSI forum are doing, you should be able to OC the BCLK, ram and turbo limits. But not the multipliers, even with an unlocked CPU.

Lot's of good stuff to play with though (fan control may be possible, needs testing).

For anyone who does use this bios, be careful because a lot of options there could cause the notebook to not boot, needing the CMOS to be reset (take out the bios battery).

The good news is that pretty much every AMI bios can have the CPU microcode updated, including you P series owners. So ivy bridge CPUs may one day work with these SB motherboards.

Don't think getting IB CPUs working would be as easy as a microcode update, but it could be one step required to move forward. The IB 3920xm ES is already available on ebay, so it shouldn't be too long before we find reasonably priced versions as well, then the testing can begin (at least for myself, since I can't afford to drop $1.5K on a CPU).
http://www.ebay.com/itm/INTEL-i7-39...444?pt=CPUs&hash=item256d75761c#ht_4651wt_939

 

I just want the calculator in the box, the cpu is a bonus.

1500$ is a good profit, for free cpus. Though it kind of makes me mad since there is no technical reason ivy bridge can't work with our motherboards.

 

Until intel finds you

 

the bios mod works, but i imagine setting the switchable graphics to muxed would be fatal

lots of settings i'm terrified to touch

 

lots of settings id probably LOVE to touch if given the chance in my BIOS

 

just be grateful your cpu lets you change the tdp ;p

 

That`s good news!

Well done

 

Great news indeed.

So, anyone with very large testicles want to try running the old 1.06 clevo/sager bios with a 560m gpu? I'd run if it I had a way to recover it incase it does not work. I sent sager and Clevo an email, but I highly doubt they would know.

 

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They have done some tests.

6990M with 1.06 bios--> The card will be wrongly recognized as 6970M in bios setup (But still 1120sp)

560M with 1.06 bios-->The card can't be recognized in bios setup but you can still boot into OS.
[ EDIT:How misleading! They didn't mention no display on the built-in screen!]


So, you need a sager version 1.06 bios for NP8150.

 

Can you change the RAM timings with this BIOS?

 

Oh that's fantastic news. To be specific, I have a np8130, but yeah same BIOS. I will go ask sager for it.

Can't wait for sager to give it to me... then Prema can work his magic and super fastness ;D

 

I am ready when you are!

 

Ready when xotic/sager is actually ;p
sager said they don't have it which is mind boggling
I asked xotic but it's pretty unlikely they have it, so I might just flash a Clevo BIOS

So in the meantime could you work your magic on the Clevo BIOS? ( P15HM10604.zip)
Danke

 

i can confirm that it works on W170HR with EC03

 

Can you change the RAM timings with this BIOS?

 

The option is enabled from what i can see with a bios editor, but can`t test it without W150HRM,

 

Is there a modded bios for the NP8130 though?

 

not yet, theyre apparently still working on it

 

So just a lil update, Prema made a BIOS with the old 1.06, and i tried stock.

On moddded tdp limits 48/60 on unmodded 45/56.
There seems to be a max at 48/60, however even though this tdp is lower than the new BIOS 60/60 I got 1000 more pts in pass mark and my cpu throttles less. (Prema set the TDP to 75/85 or something similar but it does seem to get maxed)

Anyone have any ideas? Still I am very happy to get more performance from before.

EDIT: I should clarify these limits are just for ES cpus.

 

nope but you can change the tdp for powerboost values, as I am sure you already have realized.

 

where we can find the modded np8130 bios??

 

ummm....have u read the last few posts? ^^

 

yes but not all my engilsh is not too good...

 

ooh ok then a modded bios for np8130/8150 is not available yet, theyre still trying to unlock all the hidden features. so we have to wait i guess

cheers

 

do u know what features they try to unlock and what are the benefits???thx!

 

well if you want increased TDP, so your cpu does not unturbo as much or at all, you can send someone like Prema a PM, although I do have a modded BIOS from him that is 75watt long, 85 watt short.

I do not know if he wants me to redistribute it though. It's based on the latest sager BIOS for the np8130.

For other options it's all locked as has been said.

 

Just PM me with your untouched bios and let me know your CPU type and the TDP values that you would like to have

 

Wait, I got some news.

One guy who bought a new GTX560M can't boot on his P150HM with 1.01.06TBP Bios and 1.00.04 EC.

EDIT: He can boot into OS but no display on the built-in screen.

 

Mind sharing the source and what does the TBP in the bios name?
My guess is the ES throttle is caused by an additional microcode in the later bios. I updated the Microcode successfully on my P170HM3, so maybe we could just free the latest bios from the "ES BUG"...

 

The source is in Chinese and need to register.
http://www.zxtjd.com/thread-33659-1-1.html


TBP version bios is provided by a Chinese Clevo reseller named TerransForce.

 

For some reason 06 bios works perfectly for jigglywigglyx except for the lower ES TDP limits. I think he has 560m...

Oh thx, no problem, have a login there...

 

I guess that may be an EC problem then.

BTW: Can he achieve 5000+ CPU score in 3dmark06 using Q154(2720 D0 ES) and 1.01.06 bios?

 

I think that guy may have bought a non Clevo 560m...the seller only said it works on MSI & Clevo, but from what system did he pull it?
The buyer may have to flash the card to Clevo video bios then...

 

OK I will add 06 bios ES microcode to 14 bios. Should give the best of both worlds. PM me if you want to test.

 

If you add or replace microcodes, better keep the length of whole microcodes module(which is 0x7000).

BCZ when I added ivy microcode to 14 bios weeks ago, I bricked one's P150HM.
I checked it and found MMTool changed the length to 0x4C00 (0x2400 old 206a7_1B + 0x2800 new 306a8_0A).

Then I remade the bios keeping its microcodes module as 0x7000 and flashed successfully to another P150HM.

BTW: No luck for ivy CPU though, which may need an ME firmware update as well.

 

Hmm...I went from a single patch code size of 0x2000 to 0x2400 on my own system without a problem.
Saw combined size in the P150 bios ranging from 0x2400 to 0x6400, while single patches never exceeded 0x2400...so you say the max is 0x7000. (THX, GOOD TO KNOW !!!)
So that`s OK then the 14 bios with ES patch has 0x6800. Let me know if someone wants to run some tests.

Did you replace the old microcode patch with the IB or did you add it?

All these SB Clevos share the 0126A628 as base. It contains the basics and makes sure the system boots.
The top level one is the latest update, which is 0126A71B on the P series.
Some bios have an extra patch or more between, wich in the example of P150 06 enabled the proper use of the ES, but was removed in later revisions.

BTW: moral hazards Toshiba Aptio bios has a combined code size of over 0x12000...so how did you figure maximum microcode module size is 0x7000 on P150?

EDIT: YES even on Desktop IB requires ME update...

 

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I removed 206A6_28 and inserted 306A9_0A.
Is it the removal of 206A6_28 which caused the laptop bricked?

I checked the bios with HEX editor.
0x23005D and 0x23005E are the size marks which tells 0x70,00.
And the module is from 0x230060 to 0x237059 including 206a7_1B, 206a6_28 microcodes and quite a few FF.

EDIT: Well, considering MH's example,I think it possible to enlarge the module size.

 

If I have an OEM CPU, do I still need to change my TDP?

 

id guess so, although u wouldnt actually "need" to do that ^^ u can check with prime95 if ur cpu can live up to the advertised turbo boost speeds at the specific number of threads / cores used. if it doesnt, then there would be a reason to raise the TDP ceilings in the BIOS. if it does, be happy

 

Oh ok. So if I understand it correctly, you are only raising the TDP for the constraints of ES CPUs? And if my CPU temps are too high?

How do I know if my CPU "can live up to the advertised turbo boost speeds at the specific number of threads/cores used" ???

 

well thats the thing, ull have to keep a watchful eye on ur temps with the raised TDP ceilings, so as not to fry ur cpu.
which cpu model do u have? mine for example sports a 2.5 Ghz base clock and turbo boost clocks of 3.6 Ghz (1 core) / 3.5 Ghz (2 cores) / 3.4 Ghz (3 cores) and 3.3 Ghz (4 cores). i wasnt able to reach these specs with the stock BIOS but the modded one with raised TDP values brought me pretty close to those clocks

 

I have the 2670QM which I think reaches its specs but I still have to double check. So your CPU is an ES one that's why it doesn't reach those specs as rated?

 

ohno i have an OEM model. afaik most notebook CPU´s wouldnt reach their specified turbo boost frequencies due to the limited cooling involved and the pretty strict turbo boost conditions laid down by Intel. check this link for more info:

Praxis - Intel Processors / Turbo Boost - Sandy Bridge Notebooks with Turbo lag auf notebookjournal.de

it only includes the first gen SB CPUs but these findings also apply to the second gen as well.

cheers

 

One thing is to bring CPUs up to specs, the other is to keep them in Turbo for longer or even forever.

@jaybee according to your temps we could push it a little further if you like.