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    Clevo Bios Mods

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by jigglywigglyx, Feb 29, 2012.

  1. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    double post
     
  2. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    The VR (voltage regulator) is incompatible according to Intel itself...
     
  3. Ianas

    Ianas Notebook Guru

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    Question mostly for Prema, but if anyone else can authoritatively answer as well then that's good...
    I've got a W370ET barebones arriving tomorrow. What should I look for to see if BIOS mods are possible on this unit? I couldn't find where anyone had addressed this specific unit yet. Is it the Aptio BIOS that we can't mod at this point? I'll find out tomorrow when I fire it up if it's got an Aptio BIOS or something else.
    Thank you.
     
  4. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    They are essentially all Aptios, but some like the P-series got the extra "Clevo touch". ;)

    Just dump your BIOS with this one and PM me (standard settings, just hit save):

    afuwin64.rar
     
  5. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    @moral hazard: yeah they mentioned what components on the mobo would have to be different in order to make IB run properly... dont remember which tho :confused: :eek:
    edit: k, im still not awake as it seems, didnt see premas post :p

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  6. knightfal

    knightfal Newbie

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    Hi guys,

    any help would be appreciated. Would love to run the Prema firmware on my laptop.

    Thx

     
  7. RGSPro

    RGSPro Notebook Enthusiast

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    I just found out that even though there is RAID support on the p150em that you can't raid 0 (stripe) with a drive in the optical bay. Is there another version of a bios that I can flash to enable this (even if it is just SATA II) because I am just going to raid 2x750gb 7200rpm drives together.

    I have seen that Mythlogic banded p150em's can do this, and another forum member being able to do this through AMIBCP, but I was unable to change anything worthwhile with AMIBCP with my dumped BIOS.
     
  8. csoren

    csoren Notebook Consultant

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    That was probably me. I'll put up my modded BIOS later.
     
  9. RGSPro

    RGSPro Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yeah it was! Is it a modded Clevo bios and not a Sager one? Would the difference be that big if I were to flash my Sager branded laptop with your Clevo one, or would I lose any functionality so to speak (having a 680m installed). Would it be possible to modify my current Sager bios the same way you did yours? (Sorry about all the questions, I have just been trying to figure this out all day lol)
     
  10. csoren

    csoren Notebook Consultant

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    Mine's a Clevo. I'm really not that knowledgeable when it comes to this stuff, so I don't know if it just works on the Sager. If you have a BIOS file to modify, doing it with AMIBCP is very easy, the option is just hidden in the Save and Exit menu. See the attached screenshot.
     

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  11. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    I'll just set his own dump to raid. Please people don't upload any modded P-EM series BIOS here...there are too many EC/BIOS/VENDOR combinations that brick boards...Clevo created a big mess this generation. ;)
     
  12. RGSPro

    RGSPro Notebook Enthusiast

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    I flashed my BIOS with the one you sent me but I cannot create a RAID array. It still only offer's a Recovery mode in the BIOS menu (Meaning the Intel RAID Menu) for RAID? Am I doing something wrong?
     
  13. csoren

    csoren Notebook Consultant

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    Try entering the BIOS, restore optimal defaults and then save and exit.
     
  14. RGSPro

    RGSPro Notebook Enthusiast

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    Like a BOSS!!!
     
  15. RGSPro

    RGSPro Notebook Enthusiast

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    Would you be able to unlock the other RAID modes for me as well?
     
  16. katsas

    katsas Notebook Enthusiast

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    hello, i have been a leecher quite a while, this mainly goes to prema but i cant send him pm so i guess ill post it here, i have a w170hrm - i5 / gt555m / 17inch screen
    and im using the overvolt bios from eskaryo, yesterday night i left the pc botting in some game and wanted to check the tempratures, althought when im botting im not using OC values at gpu the proccesor runs at 80-88 celcius is that normal?
     
  17. kevindd992002

    kevindd992002 Notebook Virtuoso

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    I just tried benching my Sager NP8130 with i7-2670QM and I noticed that it starts at idle goes to 28x multiplier and then when my temps reaches to around 85~90C (I have hot ambient temps, usually 30~33C), it starts throttling back to 26x multiplier.

    What can we do with this?
     
  18. aatind

    aatind Newbie

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    Dear Prema :)

    You seems to have the required knowledge about the following question:

    "On the Clevo P150EM, I have seen someone mention that it's possible to unlock the XTU future on this machine" is that something you can confirm for being true?

    Since my machine are running with the Intel 3610QM CPU, would I even benefit from the XTU future (improved turbo duration or anything similar)?

    Thanks in advance!

    Oh, and the last thing - Have someone found a solution, about how to flash the 7970M gpu on the P150EM/170 systems? Seems like the atiflash tool is outdated, and therefore don't see the gpu?

    Sincerely
    Anders Tind - Happy MMVision (Danish reseller) (P150EM) Owner
     
  19. jaug1337

    jaug1337 de_dust2

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    Hej aatind/ Anders Tind, godt at møde dig :)

    I am not Prema though (sadly :( he does awesome BIOS mods)

    But what I can tell is THIS.

    The P150EM has unlocked XTU feautures because of the P170EM BIOS flash (severly dangerous and not worthy unless you actually know what you are doing) so not XTU support for your laptop. Ever :p

    Now if there was XTU support, one would require the 3720QM, 3820QM and 3920XM to actually use the XTU functions, since Intel has made disabled the ability to do ANYTHING with the 3610QM besides running ThrottleStop.. fairly sad if you ask me

    Meaker did it, although he used another laptop for the cause to flash another vBIOS onto the 7970M and then put it inside his P150EM.. but no it wouldn't be possible on your P150EM system (as far as I know :))

    Sincerely
    Java - A Russian Danish Clevo Owner
     
  20. hackness

    hackness Notebook Virtuoso

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    I was comparing P150EM BIOS 05 with P170EM BIOS 07 and I found this in the P170EM BIOS. Looks like this is what the P150EM BIOS is missing for XTU:

    [​IMG]

    However, in other modules I found out the 2 models' handling ID for some features are a bit different...



    Edit: with MMTool I noticed the File index are different between both BIOS too:

    [​IMG]

    There's another one at Volume index:03 File index: 00 named PerfTunePei which is also missing from the P150EM BIOS.

    @Prema,

    Extracting PerfTuneDxe PerfTunePei PerfTuneSmm from P170EM BIOS and inserting them into P150EM will likely break the BIOS right?
     
  21. kevindd992002

    kevindd992002 Notebook Virtuoso

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    BUMP! on my question above.
     
  22. knightfal

    knightfal Newbie

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  23. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Please dump your bios with afuwin and PM me (standard settings, just hit save):

    afuwin64.rar


    YES, we bricked a machine by just putting the XTU modules into non XTU BIOS. (same happens even on same model BIOS: XTU modules into non XTU BIOS = FULL BRICK)

    IT DID NOT BOOT AT ALL AFTERWARDS BECAUSE CLEVO LEFT THE REFERENCE IN REGULAR BIOS, SO IT ACTUALLY LOOKS FOR THE MODULES, FINDS THEM, BUT DOESN'T HAVE REQUIRED CODE TO READ ALTER AND WRITE PROPER NVRAM VALUES TO EXECUTE AND IN RETURN REFUSES TOO BOOT !!!

    Also different model XTU modules cause different voltages etc = motherboard crash...LOL (EM XTU in HM) :rolleyes:

    Already done:

    Unlock Clevo W150HRM

    It's a very rough hack and exposes all kind on non working settings, so be careful and be prepared to pull the cmos battery in case you change something that doesn't work and the system refuses to boot. But it works and won't brik your baby. ;)
     
  24. hackness

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    I see, so the only way to achieve XTU on the P150EM really is by flashing p170EM BIOS onto P150EM unless Clevo decides to rebuild the BIOS.
     
  25. jaug1337

    jaug1337 de_dust2

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    Yep.

    The P1xxEM BIOS' are hard locked... :( Clevo is teasing us
     
  26. knightfal

    knightfal Newbie

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    Thx a million.
    Can I use the AfuWin64 to flash it, if not can you give me the correct commands to do? :)

    Already done:

    Unlock Clevo W150HRM

    It's a very rough hack and exposes all kind on non working settings, so be careful and be prepared to pull the cmos battery in case you change something that doesn't work and the system refuses to boot. But it works and won't brik your baby. ;)[/QUOTE]
     
  27. Tyranids

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    I thought Mythlogic said they do this and they bricked the P150EM?
     
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  29. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Never flash in windows! For example it doesn't delete and rewrite NVRAM/CMOS values...

    Use the Afudos that comes with your latest original bios and then:

    For Clevo BIOS: Afudos BIOSFILENAME.ROM /P /B /N
    For Sager BIOS: Afudos BIOSFILENAME.ROM /P /B /N /K

    ;)
     
  30. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    @Prema, I would like to thank you again for the modded bios you gave me for my np8150.

    Can I ask if you ever had any further success when trying to enable XTU on a non XTU bios?
     
  31. jigglywigglyx

    jigglywigglyx Notebook Evangelist

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    I am actually curious about that, anyone try that or is the community p151hm1/p150hm retired?
     
  32. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    ah well theres always crossflashing the p170hm bios onto the P15xhm machines :)
     
  33. jigglywigglyx

    jigglywigglyx Notebook Evangelist

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    Have you done that? If so, how's it working for you?

    If anyone's done it, that sounds really tempting.
    Throw in a 2920xm and overclock to ~4.2ghz, throw in a gtx680m, and you won't need a new laptop for a long time.

    My 2720ES is struggling a bit in BF3.
    FPS drops to 70 here and there. (I play at 1024x768), gpu usage is not maxed on the 560m at that res. CPU bound.
     
  34. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    i havent done it yet but im keeping it as an option for future upgrades ;) ive seen other hm users do it tho, works as well as on the EM machines surprisingly. with the crossflash u can enable xtu and OC cpu and ram, thus no need to buy a whole new system right away :p only thing is to be patient and find a good offer for a 2960xm somewhere ;)

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  35. jigglywigglyx

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    I really want to someday see XTU support on the P150EM. I think it's rather ridiculous that the extreme edition CPUs are offered on Clevo machines but no support for their (main) features is included. Of course they blame it on the heat dissipation, but then again go look at the heat/thermals thread on here to see that they didn't exactly do the best job they could have. Ugh.

    But yeah, XTU on P150EM. I would pay for that.
     
  37. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    the bios crossflashing goes for the EM machines as well, so no need to pay for XTU support on ur P150EM ;)
     
  38. Tyranids

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    I'm pretty sure Mythlogic did that and it broke their machine. I'd rather get the real P150EM BIOS unlocked than potentially burn out my mobo
     
  39. jigglywigglyx

    jigglywigglyx Notebook Evangelist

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    Well there is a jtag port on the motherboard
    http://www.pcw.fr/pdf/P150HM.pdf

    I am not sure what it's exactly for though.

    I wonder if you can hookup a blackcat usb or any usb jtag to reflash a bios.
     
  40. kevindd992002

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    Is it not recommended to activate turbo boost?
     
  41. Tornator

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    Read your CPU temps very carefully after doing this (activating turbo clocks). I have used ThrottleStop (and turbo clocks) just for gaming, especially for MMOs, Metro 2033, Witcher 2, BF3, MP3...
     
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    Question: Since the 170EM bios kicks in the highest GPU fan profiles somewhere around 91 and 94 degrees C, and the 680m cards down throttle at 90C, it would be nice to drop the Clevo GPU fan profiles so that the highest speed is at 89C. Is that achievable somehow in the EC? Or rather, has it been done or can someone shed some light on modding the fan profiles in the EM EC?
     
  43. jaug1337

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    Turbo boost gives a very nice boost, if you don't feel like it don't use it. (some people might say it increases the temperature of the CPU, but its so minimal that its doesnt matter)

    Just enable it ;)
     
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  45. kevindd992002

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    Yeah, but what did you mean by "and (if you wish) activating turbo boost for the lolz" in your previous post?
     
  46. hackness

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    My i7-3740QM always reaches as high as 88C in BF3/Hawken with Turbo Boost enabled, but I see it through and not bothered by this temperature, since the danger zone of ivy bridge mobile cpu starts at 105C :D.
     
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    Is it possible to enable HDD password on boot so that we can take advantage of the built-in encryption inside the SSD?
     
  48. Ingvarr

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    HDD password is supported by BIOS, there is just no option in BIOS setup to set it on/off.

    But you can use hdparm utility to set hdd password.
     
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