Clevo Guide v2.0 - FAQ and Reseller Info

If you read the note I put about Eurocom....

you would know that Eurocom is will to negotiate and price match if you contact them to show them lower prices for the same system configuration from another vendor (say from the US)..... just email/phone them

 

you're a lifesaver, thanks again. Too bad i have to pay taxes cause i'm in Ontario :O

 

I'm sorry to bust your bubble, but Eurocom doesn't price-match (at least for the M860TU). They negociate, but they do NOT price-match. Please correct this in your clevo guide because lots of people will loose time and have false hopes because of this. Right now any config of the M860TU gives about 500-600 hundreds more at eurocom, and they can drop the price by say 200-300, which still leaves a couple of hundreds more. Just to show you guys, right now even if I have 7.5% less taxes and 100$ less shipping with eurocom, it is still more affordable to go with xoticpc or pro-star. But they have good service, John Shore has been very helpful.

 

thank you l4d gr00pie for informing me of this information.

 

I said negotiate... and sometimes price match... depending on system and configuration.

No harm is haggling for more if you can.

 

a good idea, but i think xoticpc has lured me in.. their site looks professional and is mad cheap :O. Btw Gophn kinda unrelated but are the build qualities of Clevo laptops similar to asus's?

Thanks in advance.

 

Clevo high-end systems are built more superior... when you physically examine (exterior and interior) two similar systems, you will see the difference.

Makes sense though, since Clevo does outdate even the largest of notebook manufacturers... they know what they are doing for the enthusiast and professional market.

 

thank you for the info Gophn, you are officially my superstar.

 

what about clevo vs. compal?

 

both are good ODMs overall.

Clevo is best known for their high-end performance systems.

Compal is known best for their mainstream mid-range systems... since they are the second largest ODM (first being Quanta) for all notebooks on the market.

 

Why doesnt Clevo change its look

all the USB port on 1 side for the last 5yrs same design

Wish they really try to change the looks
Fat is fine I understand cos they have a high-end Config

but the layout matters ALOT

 

is any big company like asus or msi... using clevo? is there any clevo powered notebook using EFI bios and MXM modules? i'm gonna buy a laptop this weekend just wanna make sure i make a good choice. i would like a good cpu + good gpu something like a t9550 + 4gb ram (if possible ddr3) and a HD 4850. a nice extra would be a tv tuner

 

I like how Clevo put all the ports category in 1 section/side/place.
For example, in D900C, Clevo puts all audio ports in the front, all USB ports in the right, all other ports in the left, all storage (ODD and Card-Reader) in the left, etc.

 

Avoid clevo with SIS or VIA chipsets.

Comparatively, clevo built quality overall is _inferior_ to Compal, ECS/Elite , Wistron, Asus, msi, etc...

In the order of quality, I would prefer Asus, MSI, Compal as far as ODM goes.

 

the budget 15.4" and 17" Clevo models have SiS / S3 chipsets... no one has complaints about them since they perform the same.

please do not make a post to flame... especially without some facts or sources.

 

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I am curious upon what do you base yours?

 

oh ok, my opinion is considered flame.

I should not have posted what I considered helpful for consumer--at least make people aware of it.

I should have rather treasure (keep it to myself) my mere opinion base on experiences dealing with notebooks of various brands for some time since the day of clevo(aka "kapok") PIII models (PIII Desktop processor + sis crap).

Please post benchmarks proofing that they (all the chipsets available) perform the same.

Consumer should be informed so that they get better product with their hard earned money.

 

Well, perhaps you could explain your experience with more details?

And not just storm in saying "Apple sucks, don't buy iPhone, don't buy Mac, their products are low quality and overprice. Period".... if you know what I'm sayin

If you want your "Warning" post to be useful to other members, you have to give more details with what happened to you.

 

Actually it's been proven on numerous benchmarks that Sager/Clevo Produces some of the most powerful notebooks for the money. The np9262 is still the most powerful notebook currently out (as the new 18.4" hasn't started shipping yet). And their 15.4" and portable 17" are the most powerful single gpu notebooks on the market.

Show me some evidence where they're lacking before you start hating on them. Opinions without facts backing them carry no weight.

 

why would you bag on VIA chipsets.... my D900K is using a VIA chipset and it has been solid for my FX-60 and my hardware RAID setups. (thats right, hardware RAID)

 

Anyone demand further explanation should do the same to back up their own opinion:

Please find me just a benchmark proofing that chipsets "perform the same".

...and be fair with same generation chipset(i.e.: sis m652mx vs i945?m, m672 vs i965?m for socket-p)

And you will see that in the memory bandwidth arena alone (not to mention integrated graphics performance arena, ATA interface, etc), alternative chipsets such as sis, via still need to do their homework

...and most importantly on mobile system: power consumption , a clevo sis m652mx dissipate a ~29500mw vs ~16000mw on a typical i945gm ) on idle.

...not to mention the overall subpar build quality of clevo in terms of material used.

 

Why don't you use some actual benchmarks. My notebook will tear any other notebook you throw at it apart.

This guy's obviously a troll.

 

he is mainly pointing out the difference with Clevo's budget line of notebooks using budget chipset to other mainstream budget systems using Intel chipsets (which are valid)... not comparing high-end... which would be counter productive [for his cause] since most of the high-end notebooks on the market would have trouble to compared with Clevo's high-end rigs.

 

well as far as high end goes, nothing can compare to the 8662, 5797, or the 9262, for 15.4" and 17".

There are more powerful 17" than the 5797, but not as portable, and those that are, aren't nearly as powerful as the 9262.

And no other 15.4" can touch the 8662.

 

Anyone can brag about their "mobile" rigs that are latest and greatest, but my original points is are only these two:

1. Avoid Clevo with sis / via chipsets
2. Clevo overall built quality is inferior to other major ODM


Speaking of chipsets, i945?M generation chipset was once a highend before, same as i96xgm/pm

No. I don't work for intel. In fact, fierce competition among intel/sis/via/nvid are needed to keep intel's pricing in check.

 

Agreed.

 

Hi, I just found this forum whilst looking for a new gaming laptop.

I have my eyes set on the M860TU Clevo, but I just wanted to know what people thought was a good site to order from in North America.

Cause i have lived with problems on my desktops and laptops, and i really want this one to be clean, but i guess thats what crippling me a bit.

Can anyone suggest a Reliable site, with cheap prices, where i can also customize the laptops, such as the OS and the Graphic card?

Cause i was looking to get the Nividia G9800gm GT card, with 320 GB 5400 rpm hard drive, with a 2.66 GHZ processor.

I know it might be crazy, but im trying to get one for about 2200 $ USD

What do you guys think?

P.S. Does anyone know how much better the GTX 260M is compared to the G9800gm GT, also what the compatiblity rate of those two compared to new games out, cause i got fallout 3 and the GTX 260M wasn't exactly on the list of supported cards so i was sorta worried...

Thank you for any replies to my query

 

Hi seongjun and welcome to NBR
the 260 will be faster than the 9800GT but not by a massive amount.
fallout 3 was out before the cards were released so thats why it most prob wasnt on the list. you will have no problem playing near enough all games out at the moment with either cards.

have a look HERE at Gophn's great clevo guide which will answer a lot of your questions.

 

Welcome to the NBR forums.

there are many great vendors in the US... the best prices are here as well.

I recommend to start with:
- www.powernotebooks.com
- www.xoticpc.com
- www.pctorque.com
- www.rjtech.com
- www.avadirect.com
.... etc ....

as for pricing, you will find that most vendors are competitive in their prices... also you will find that most will price-match another vendor's price.

so please do not just make the decision over a $100 difference...

the 9800M GT (same as previous 8800M GTX) is still quite fast and one of the top mobile videocards.

the GTX 260M will outperform the 9800M GT by around 15-20%.

most vendors that are selling the Clevo M860TU/ETU only have the GTX 260M option now... since its become the standard for that model.

 

The Sager 5797 sounds like it'd be a great match for you. You could spec it all out maxed with the 280m (superior to the 260m and the 9800m gt) and still come out to less than $2000.

 

You probably won't be able to find the GeForce 9800M GT anymore because they were sold out months ago, but as Gophn says the GTX 260M will substantially outperform it.

The only reason the GTX 260M is not on the Fallout 3 list is because it is a new video card, and that is an old list. There is nothing to worry about though, it will be supported and it will play Fallout 3 beautifully

 

Awesome! Thank you all so much, been a great help! : D

Now all i gotta do is buy it, i hope they dun run out of stock before august though XD

Since thats when ill be getting back to the US.

Still again thanks so much for all the help.

 

Does anyone know Cube in singapore ? Are they one of the official reseller of sager ? Customer service good or bad ?? I'm going to buy a 8662 and really don't want the trouble of importing from USA =.='

 

I they are Sager official reseller for Singapore.

 

Hey, back again xD with a few more questions

I've been looking at the vendors and i was thinking either XOTIC PC or RK Computers

has anyone bought their laptops from either of these vendors and can someone please help point out which has the better quality control?

Cause i dun want the machine breaking down anytime soon, hopefully it might go 2 -4 years without any problems. well thats me being very hopeful xD

so anyone know which one is more reliable?

 

xoticpc.com has a bigger business and should serve better but RK computers is still high quality. But in the end i would pick the larger of the 2 and go with xoticpc.com

 

If RK has good reseller rating, go with RK instead.
We need to keep the competition healthy... LOL

 

er, Hello

 

or powernotebooks ...... they are pretty awsome

 

Red Alert, men left behind!!! LOL

Or RJ Tech if you need barebones...
**pre-emptive strike before someone from RJ Tech post here too

 

BTW, I don't know if this info was reported already...

All SERVICE MANUALS are here:

[link removed]

That info is "top-secret" and only available to resellers, so be fast and download all before they notice.

 

that stuff is already known... in fact, theriko is hosting them (look at his sig)

I am removing it because I was asked to by some OEMs.

 

your no fun Gophn

 

it happens when you become a mod and get PM's from whiners....

 

Hi

I need some help with my M860ETU (Sager 8662) purchase. What company is the best to buy from in Europe, to get the best setup for the money?

Allso look at my thread
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=397825

Thanks for the help!

 

Hello!

I am from Brazil and here the Clevo line is represented by Positivo Informática ( www.positivo.com.br). I have a Clevo M720R (in fact a R34 from Positivo) and I have made a lot of upgrades on it:

1. CPU - Changed the original T3400 for a T9300
2. HD - Changed the original 160 Gb/5400 RPM for a 500 Gb/7200 RPM
3. Memory - Changed the original 3 Gb DDR2 667 for 4 Gb DDR2 800

I realized it has became much cooler since I installed the new processor, but today I opened it and turned it on on top of a Notepal Infinete and the CPU temp decreased from about 51 ºC to less than 39 º, but... The chipset was so terribly hot! More than 60 ºC. It's amazing... The "cooler" of the chipset is just a "leave" of cooper with no contact with the heat-pipe!!

Did anyone try to build a mod for better cooling?

Thanks and sorry if I made any errors. My english is a bit "rusty".

:-

 

clevo
Pro-Star Location: City of Industry, CA
Description ... awaiting reply for description from vendor ...
Reseller Rating
6-month: na/10

Lifetime: 6.15/10

13 reviews
Better Business Bureau Rating
Satisfactory

8 complaints, all resolved
Pricing
Average to Benchmark Configurations
Price Matching
No
Discounts
Volume discount (based on model/config)
Warranty
ProStar's 1-Year or Extended 3-year
Warranty (Origin) of Barebones
Direct Clevo distributor / importer OEM
Shipping
U.S. & Worldwide
Clevo Notebooks Available

* Clevo D901C = ProStar 9194
* Clevo M570RU-U = ProStar 5729
* Clevo M670SRU = ProStar 6720
* Clevo M665SRU = ProStar 6626
* Clevo M665SR = ProStar 6625
* Clevo M72SR = ProStar 7220
* Clevo TN120R = ProStar 1220

Representative(s) on NBR n/a ...for now

About that warranty, does that mean I'd be dealing with ProStar or will they have me call/ship it elsewhere?

 

If you buy directly from Pro-Star you will look directly to them for support and warranty service. Should you need to ship it in for repairs it would go directly to Pro-Star.

 

Ahh, thanks.

 

Hello Gophn!

Sorry for replying on this threat but you can delete this reply after you read it.

I was going to privately message you on here but I don't see an option for it.
Anyway, I have a problem with my Alienware aurora m7700 and it's the problem where the bios will not detect any hard drive even though they are connected to the laptop. I have tried installing raid and also non raid drivers but did not help. Only thing left I can think of is upgrading the bios to a newer version as I have v1.00.04. I am personally asking you this because I have read over several of your posts before on here and you seem like you know this laptop more than anyone else around and I value your information.

If you can, please reply to me privately or post a thread about this issue and we can discuss it on there and I can give you any information needed? The motherboard is a D900T.

Thank you very much in advance I look forward to hearing from you soon.
-Danny