Clevo Guide v3.0 - FAQ and Reseller Info ****READ BEFORE POSTING****

Clevo Guide v3.0​

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1. Who is Clevo?


2. Why Clevo?


3. History of Clevo


4. Current Clevo Models


5. Where to Buy?


6. Common Sense Information

Who is Clevo?

A lot of you might be asking “Who is Clevo? I’ve never heard of their brand name before.” Well, simply put, they will provide your next notebook. Well, maybe not, but they create high-end, top-quality niche products and workstations for serious gamers and the average notebook user as well. Clevo is a Taiwanese manufacturer that creates barebones notebook chasses for other OEMs to fill in with the necessary specific hardware components, providing materials for companies like HP and Lenovo/IBM to put their finishing touches upon. A little known fact is that Alienware used to be a Clevo reseller until they became so profitable that they were bought out by Dell. Among their loyal fan base, they are recognized for creating solid, durable and stylish notebooks for everyone. They have service centers all over the world, notably in the United States, China, United Kingdom, Germany and Taiwan.

whyclevo Why should I buy a Clevo product?

There are a number of reasons why a Clevo product might be best suited for your needs. Amongst them are:

1) Pricing: Clevo notebooks are very often competitively priced, which means you get the best price/performance ratio and the most bang for your buck, especially with the high-end systems. Of course, the company has to make a profit in order to keep the production going, and a lot of components have pricing schedules set by the original manufacturers, but the resellers are able to adjust for small differences in cost because of their smaller operations and greater flexibility.

2) Quality: Probably the biggest strength of Clevo notebooks is their build quality, which is, in my humble opinion, top-notch and is right up there with Apple and Lenovo. Furthermore, they are not as flashy and eye-catching as other mainstream products, which may be a good thing if you are trying to prevent theft and maintain a professional look. Other than subjective cosmetic preferences, you will find that they are built like a tank, with minimal flex. (A note: Do not expect them to have the ruggedness of Panasonic Toughbooks, though. These are consumer notebooks.)

3) Software: One of my personal favorite qualities about Clevo notebooks is that there is a fortunate lack of bloatware/crapware that often accompanies other vendors’ products. To me, that indicates the presence of a focus on the customer, and not on fulfilling obligations towards other companies.

4) Upgradeability: This is often the main reason why most people who are interested in this brand end up buying the notebook in the end. Clevos are legendary for their user-accessibility and their upgradeability. You will not find such a wide and open-ended warranty agreement in most other vendors, with prohibitive stickers preventing you from upgrading one component. No, in fact, Clevos are the ultimate brand in longevity because they not only provide support for future products, and even backward-compatibility, but they also sometimes encourage their customers to upgrade their machines somewhere down the line. It is an easy and often educational process for the laptop-savvy.

historyclevo History of Clevo Products

1987 Started Mobile PC(Laptop) Business

1990 Commenced notebook PC production
Launched 386SX notebook in the word

1991 Opened Regional Service Centers in USA & Germany

1994 First Pentium notebook PC producer in Taiwan
ISO 9002 Certification

1996 Rank 4th Best performance company in Taiwan

1997 TSE listed
World's 1st 15.1"notebook

1998 ISO 9001 Certification
Main china operation
Start LCD monitor project

1999 BTO setup
Developed LCD products
IA products introduce

2000 New LCD PC start business

2001 ISO 14001 Certification

2003 Launched Centrino Notebook
World's 1st 17"WXGA notebook
Introduced TabletNote

2004 World's 1st Intel ® Dual-Core notebook

2005 World's 1st AMD X2 Dual-Core notebook

2006 World's 1st 19"notebook with SLI technology

2007 World's 1st Intel® Core 2 Extreme notebook with SLI
technology.

2008 World's Word’s 1st Intel® Core 2 Extreme notebook with SLI
technology

2009 MOFA technology
Semi-rugged NB series

2010 MOFA-2 technology (easy changeable)
World’s 1st 17” desktop notebook with Dual NV 480M
Graphic Card



currentclevoWhat Clevo Products are available now?

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Clevo W110ER
Specs	Clevo W110ER Specifications
Review	HTWingnut's Review
Key Features	Screen: 11.6" LED (768p resolution) CPU: Intel HM76 Chipset (3rd Generation i-Core Processors) GPU: Optimus-Enabled NVIDIA GTX 650M RAM: Up to 16GB 1600Mhz DDR3 HDD Bay(s): 1 SATA III HDD Bay Extras: Multi-Color Backlit Keyboard m-SATA support Kensington Lock Bluetooth 2.0Mp Webcam And more...
Owner's Lounge	Official Sager W110ER Owner's Lounge

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Clevo P151EM1
Specs	Clevo P151EM1 Specifications
Review	HTWingnut's Review
Key Features	Screen: 15.6" LED (1080p resolution) CPU: Intel HM77 Chipset (3rd Generation i-Core Processors) GPU: Optimus-Enabled NVIDIA GTX 670M (Upgradeable) RAM: Up to 32GB 1600Mhz DDR3 HDD Bay(s): 1 SATA III HDD Bay Extras: Multi-Color Backlit Keyboard m-SATA support Kensington Lock Bluetooth 2.0Mp Webcam Optical Drive (Up to Blu-Ray Burner) And more...
Owner's Lounge	Official Sager P150EM Owner's Lounge

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Clevo P170EM
Specs	Clevo P170EM Specifications
Review	NotebookCheck's Review
Key Features	Screen: 17.3" LED (1080p resolution) CPU: Intel HM77 Chipset (3rd Generation i-Core Processors) GPU: Optimus-Enabled NVIDIA GTX 670M (Upgradeable) RAM: Up to 32GB 1600Mhz DDR3 HDD Bay(s): 2 SATA III HDD Bay Extras: Multi-Color Backlit Keyboard m-SATA support Kensington Lock Bluetooth 2.0Mp Webcam Optical Drive (Up to Blu-Ray Burner) And more...
Owner's Lounge	Official Sager P170EM Owner's Lounge

 

Resellers

Perhaps Clevo’s greatest strength lies in their resellers, renowned for their world-class personalized Customer Service, aggressive pricing schemes and always professional conduct. Once again, they are listed in no particular order.

Forum-Recommended Resellers: These are resellers that have proven themselves in the NBR forums, providing support and gathering a loyal fan base. They have been participating in NBR for at least 6 months and have a proven track record:


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Xotic PC		Location: Lincoln, Nebraska
Description	When you demand high performance, superior build quality, innovative style and one on one personal support turn to XOTIC PC to deliver the definitive solution. At Xotic PC, our goal is to serve our customers; by pampering them with the quality of service they deserve. The owners of Xotic PC have been in the computer business since 1998. Xotic PC has been Sager's Largest Dealer for several years. Our Mission Statement. To provide the latest technology related products to consumers and resellers with the highest level of integrity and quality of service in the computer retail, mail order and distribution industry. Cutting edge products and unmatched customer service, which is not only a commitment but the engine that makes Xotic PC the well oiled machine that the founder envisioned.
Reseller Rating	6-month: 9.82/10	Lifetime: 9.80/10	368 reviews
Better Business Bureau Rating	A+	9 resolved complaints
Price Matching Policy	Will meet or beat any price on identical configuration.
Discounts	Cash, Student, Military, Volume discount (based on model/config). Additional Discounts Available.
Warranty	Sager's 1-Year or Extended 3-year, 1 Year Parts and 3 Year Labor warranty on certain models, Lifetime Toll Free 24/7 DOMESTIC Support
Shipping	U.S. & Worldwide. XOTIC PC provides 24/7 Technical Support to all customers. For additional information on International support please contact us at [email protected], Live Chat or Telephone at 1-877-289-9684
Representative on NBR	Jusin@XOTICPC , Brett@XoticPC, Hutsady@XoticPC, J.P.@XoticPC, Joseph@XoticPC, Jay@XoticPC, [URL='http://forum.not...eview.com/member.php?u=446457'] David@XoticPC

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MALIBAL		Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
Description	MALIBAL is the Home of the World's Fastest Laptops! Headquartered in Las Vegas, this groundbreaking company has transformed the world of mobile computing with its high-performance laptop systems and unrivaled 24-hour USA-Based Support.
[B]Reseller Rating[/B]	6-month:	Lifetime:
Better Business Bureau Rating	A	0 complaints
Price Matching Policy	We no longer offer a price matching or low price guarantee.
Discounts	3% Cash Discount, 2% Military Discount, and Free Shipping.
Warranty	Standard 4 Year Warranty & 24/7 Lifetime Support on all notebooks. Local warranty service available in the US, Canada & European Union. FREE Shipping both ways (US & Canada Only)
Shipping	UPS Ground, UPS Overnight, UPS 2nd Day Air, UPS 3 Day, UPS Worldwide Express, UPS Worldwide Expedited.
Representative on NBR	MALIBAL, , MALIBAL#2, MALIBAL#3.

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LPC Digital		Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
Description	We Don't Just Price Match...We Price Beat the others!” “We GUARANTEE the lowest prices on ANY Clevo or Sager Product!” - LPC-Digital has provided thousands of business and retail consumers’ excellent service and support for Desktop and Notebook Computer systems since 1998! We are committed to continue this service with the fine quality products listed on our site. We strive to provide some of the latest technology at competitive pricing. In our helping our customers we found that quality, performance, reliability, were of great concern, this is why we are providing these products.
Reseller Rating	6-month: 10	Lifetime: 10	53
Better Business Bureau Rating	A-	0 complaints
Price Matching Policy	Because we are a service company, not just in sales, we can offer the ultimate in cash and other discounts as well as what we feel is the best deal out there.Our slogan is "We don't just Price Match...We PRICE BEAT any Authorized Sager Dealer!"
Discounts	We give what we call our MAX discount to forum members as well as to Students and the Military. Just send us your exact configuration to get your price!
Warranty	We offer Lifetime 7 days a week, total US based support and warranty! We offer the minimum of a 3 Year Labor and 1 Year Parts on up to 3 Year Labor and 3 Year Parts. Plus we give our Premium Parts warranty too! This means as long as you own your computer from us you get dealer prices on parts and upgrades saving you even more over time!
Shipping	We have a VERY SPECIAL shipping deal to those in the CONUS! Please contact us for this deal! Also, for shipping to other countries, to many other parts of the world, we give discounted shipping!
Representative on NBR	Larry@LPC Digital (babyhemi)

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Power Notebooks		Location: Genoa, Nevada
Description	In business Satisfying Customers for over 35 years, Donald and Charlotte Stratton launched PowerNotebooks.com in 1999 to bring the Best in Quality Laptop Computers and the Best in Customer Service to the laptop computer industry. Their staff brings forth a refreshing "Old Fashioned CARING Attitude" to each Customer!
Reseller Rating	6-month: 9.81/10	Lifetime: 9.94/10	1839 reviews
Better Business Bureau Rating	A+	7 Resolved Complaints
Price Matching Policy	Yes, but everything including support and warranty has to match.
Discounts	3% Cash Discount on all models plus student and military discount on some models. Call 1-877-711-1777 for details.
Warranty	1, 2 or 3 Year Sager Warranty plus years 2 & 3 labor paid by PowerNotebooks.com if you get the 1 Year Sager Warranty.
Shipping	See Shopping Cart for shipping methods and costs.
Representative on NBR	paladin44

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Reflex Notebook		Location: Canada
Description	Sager, Asus, MSI Reseller.
[B]Reseller Rating[/B]	6-month: ?/10	Lifetime: ?/10	0 reviews
Better Business Bureau Rating	?	? complaints
Price Matching Policy	Yes, we Price Match on Final Total.
Discounts	Student/Military/Cash Payment discounts are available.
Warranty	Sager Warranty Standard + Reflex Hassle-Free Warranty optimized for Canada.
Shipping	Any Carrier(Mainly UPS). Free Ground or $50.00 off on Expedited methods for orders over $1500.00
Representative on NBR	NovaH

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Fortnax Notebooks		Location: Calgary, Canada
Description	Fortnax Extreme Notebooks Inc. is a System Integrator, Solution Provider and Notebook Retailer focusing primarily on Extreme Performance, Extreme Customization and Extreme Support. Our list of business partners includes but is not limited to Sager, AMD, HP, DELL, Lenovo. We offer a wide range of power and gaming systems as well as specialized systems such as mobile servers and workstations, rugged laptops for extreme conditions and more. Our clients range from gamers and enthusiasts to engineers and IT professionals, from end users to large corporations. We offer World-wide customer service and support.
Reseller Rating	6-month: 10/10	Lifetime: 10/10	1 review
Better Business Bureau Rating	?	? complaints
Price Matching Policy	Yes.
Discounts	Student and Cash Discounts Available.
Warranty	Lifetime Labor + Limited Parts.
Shipping	Free Shipping (US & Canada), Worldwide Shipping Available.
Representative on NBR	Aikimox

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Mythlogic		Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
Description	We are a true system builder, NOT a reseller. We use our own parts, we do our own industry leading testing, and our own warranty work. We stand by our machines 100% because no one but us has built and loved your machine.
Reseller Rating	6-month: 10/10	Lifetime: 10/10	17 reviews
Better Business Bureau Rating	?	? complaints
Price Matching Policy	We don't match the price of the resellers, as we are not resellers.
Discounts	Contact Us.
Warranty	All PC's come with a 4 year labor and 1 year parts warranty, parts warranty also includes 2-way shipping. Additional parts warranties are available.
Shipping	UPS For US + CAN, USPS for APO, Also service internationally.
Representative on NBR	mythlogic

New guys: These resellers have just arrived on the scene and are making a name for themselves. Whether they are good or bad remains to be seen.

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ILLEGEAR		Location: Malaysia
Description	The faith we have in our machines is our commitment to you in the enduring value of every computer we sell. In ILLEGEAR, customer satisfaction means a lot to us. Our dedication to after-sales service has developed into customer's total peace of mind. Nobody knows your machine better than us. And we use only genuine and quality parts for your orders and repairs. You can’t find a better team to keep your machine in top condition!
[B]Reseller Rating[/B]	6-month: ?/10	Lifetime: ?/10	? reviews
Better Business Bureau Rating	?	? complaints
Price Matching Policy	We do not match the prices of resellers and distributors from other countries.
Discounts	No fixed discount policy.
Warranty	Up to 3 Year Limited Parts and Labor Warranty, Singapore On-Site Service & Pickup and Malaysia Pickup Service.
Shipping	We are shipping worldwide via DHL Express.
Representative on NBR	illeGear

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Affordable Laptops		Location: Australia
Description	In business since 2004 selling major brands as well as Metabox laptops notebooks by Clevo
[B]Reseller Rating[/B]	6-month: ?/10	Lifetime: ?/10	? reviews
Better Business Bureau Rating	?	? complaints
Price Matching Policy	Depending on model will need quotation.
Discounts	Quantity discounts only.
Warranty	Manufacturers warranty. Metabox warranty is onsite pick up and return with extended warranty 1. RTB. 2. 2nd year Onsite pick up and return. 3. 2nd and 3rd year Onsite pick up and return.
Shipping	Australia wide
Representative on NBR	Jeff-Y@AL

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Logical Blue One		Location: Australia
Description	HORIZE brand of Clevo Notebooks. A true system builder, stands by our own product, performs all warranty work, has high levels of testing and stability assurance. Also resells customised ASUS and MSI.
[B]Reseller Rating[/B]	6-month: ?/10	Lifetime: ?/10	? reviews
Better Business Bureau Rating	?	? complaints
Price Matching Policy	Will match any FINAL price (inclusive of surcharges)
Discounts	Offers Military discounts, Reseller/Corporate/Government pricing.
Warranty	Typically 3 Years Full Parts and Labour. However some discounted models are 1 Year Full Parts + Labour. Warranty repairs are done by the same technician that built your laptop as they know your machine best.
Shipping	Flat rate of $49.95 in Australia. $129.95 Internationally. Free shipping on orders over $3000.
Representative on NBR	jack-lbo

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Schenker Notebooks		Location: Germany - Europe
Description	Highly customizable Notebooks – XMG, XIRIOS, XESIA. We support eSports and are one of the largest gaming brands in Europe.
Reseller Rating	6-month:	Lifetime:
Better Business Bureau Rating	?	0 complaints
Price Matching Policy	No Price Matching Policy.
Discounts	Quantity and Educational Discounts.
Warranty	2 year standard warranty, 3 and 4 years extended warranty. Free RMA shipping in most european countries. Single part replacement. Dedicated technical support via telephone and e-mail.
Shipping	Standard shipping inside the European Union, free shipping in Germany.
Representative on NBR	Schenker (mysn.de)

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Aftershock PC		Location: Singapore
Description	We are a team of hardware junkies, avid gamers and IT professionals with the sole goal of providing custom gaming notebooks with the highest performance. As a system builder, we aim to be there from assembling to testing your own machine, and we want to be there by your side to ensure that you get the system you love. Based in Singapore.
[B]Reseller Rating[/B]	6-month: ?/10	Lifetime: ?/10	? reviews
Better Business Bureau Rating	?	? complaints
Price Matching Policy	None at the moment.
Discounts	Quantity discount policy - to be judged on case-by-case basis.
Warranty	All systems come with 3 years labour warranty and 1 year parts warranty, upgradable on purchase.
Shipping	Pick up, Shipping to Singapore. Upcoming shipping to South-East Asia region.
Representative on NBR	Aftershock PC

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ProStar		Location: City of Industry, California
Description	For the past 20 years, ProStar has been committed to provide the latest mobile technology and superior service at an affordable price. Since our establishment in 1992, ProStar has been meeting and exceeding consumer and reseller expectations. We specialize in world best gaming laptops and focus on the development of innovative technologies, configurations and features. Our graphics laptops rival and often surpass its desktop PC counterpart in speed, flexibility and versatility.
Reseller Rating	6-month: 9.90/10	Lifetime: 8.72/10	49 reviews
Better Business Bureau Rating	A	5 resolved complaints
Price Matching Policy	We will price match on all Prostar/Clevo models (Asus and MSI laptops are not included).
Discounts	We have 3% cash discount.
Warranty	We have 1 year part and 3 year labor warranty standard. Customer can purchase 2nd or 3rd year extended warranty.
Shipping	We have Free UPS Ground shipping in Contiguous US.
Representative on NBR	Prostar Computers

For a list of resellers in the European Union, see: http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/652403-clevo-resellers-european-union-v1.html

For a more extensive list of resellers, you may visit Gophn's guide here (Note: I am not responsible for any of the content found on his guide).

 

Common Sense Information:

You’d be surprised how little of common sense some people have. That is why I feel compelled to add this information from The Clevo Guide v2.0, authored by Gophn, who receives my heartiest and most appreciated thanks for providing the very efficient and organized framework for The Clevo Guide v3.0 as well as some of the information below:

Temperatures Information:

So, a lot of people lately have been worrying about temperatures. Here is my take on it:

Idle: For most of the computers out there, including Sagers, a good idle temperature would be, in my opinion, under 45C. It's not bad if it's above it, and it most likely won't affect your components, but if you have anything higher than 45C on idle, perhaps one of your components are overheating. In my definition, idle means your computer is on for at least 5 minutes after startup, and you are literally doing nothing.

Normal usage: Now, this varies from person to person what "normal" constitutes. For one person, it might be chatting/im, which barely requires even an atom processor to utilize. For another, it could be heavy multitasking, with 20 tabs open in a browser, playing a game, chatting, running VMs; you know what I mean. Depending on what you do, you have to decide whether a temperature is too high, if it's too high for your preferences. For the multitasker, keeping temperatures under 65-70C is a good sign.

Heavy Gaming: This is where most people trip up. Because of the variety of products (components) out there, all with different architecture, cooling efficiencies, heat envelop, power requirements, etc....it's nearly impossible to pinpoint an exact "dangerous" temperature that would damage your laptop, either now or in the long run. That being said, a few (more knowledgeable than I) people have said this: Any temperature for any component above 95C is dangerous. That includes CPU, GPU, RAM, or whatever you can think of. 95C is the upper limit, and if you ever hit above that, you are risking your laptop. I do not condone overclocking precisely because of this reason. But some people like to play with fire (almost literally) with their brand new $3000 investment.

Do not forget that Sagers have a built in backup (or at least the 51xx and 81xx do): Press fn + 1, and you can activate "turbo fan". It's a big help when your temperatures are getting too high.

Battery Info:

Thanks to Malibal for this:

Review Index:

Thanks to Vedya for taking the time and providing this extremely useful post:

Sager and Clevo Review Index

Cleaning:

I hope this has helped everyone!

Cheers,
Mr. Mysterious

 

darn you got me exicted

 

Lmao! I'm struggling with HTML here! I've never used it before >_<

Mr. Mysterious

 

I'll help out, check your PMs.

 

I'm willing to help as well, feel free to send me stuff. PM me for my email address.

 

I sent him a PM, I think I got it working.

 

OMG

I feel like screaming. Seriously.

7+ hours wasted because of ONE really stupid "mistake". Apparently, I had spaces in between all of the commands because I was able to read it properly then...it turns out that all that "extra space" messed up the formatting!

Once I removed the spaces, everything looked fine! I didn't even need the CSS!

Stupid, stupid, stupid...

Mr. Mysterious

 

I know what you feel, I was struggling for these codes before.

 

I'll do the tables for the computers tomorrow...I consider this thread about 80% finished. If the html and CSS programming hadn't given me issues, I would have been done yesterday only

Mr. Mysterious

 

I think GenTechPC also Clevo Reseller

Their resellerrating is pretty good

They also have representative in this forum , though mostly he likes to hang out at MSI and Asus subforum

 

I'll see if I can add him onto here. What's his profile name?

Mr. Mysterious

 

Great job so far! Please let us know if you need any more help.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/member.php?u=34663

 

I spent the last 48 hours learning php so that I could code my new website in drupal...you have no idea how much I sympathize with you.

 

You need to add Mythlogic to the resellers portion, too.

 

I would like to request that Logical Blue One ( Logical Blue One - Buy Cheap Laptops & Notebooks Online. HP, Toshiba & ASUS Laptop Computer Sale | Logical Blue One) ( http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/user/80230) and Affordable Laptops ( Affordable Laptops - laptops, notebooks for sale online Australia) ( http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/user/102707) be added to the list of re-sellers of Clevo for Australia. Both vendors are very active on whirlpool.net.au and have lots of positive user feedback.

Thanks

 

Well Done mrmysterious66! Let me know if I can help with anything! +1

 

Thanks! I'll ask him for info.

Lol yeah...I was trying to learn everything (ok, not really, but the basics) in 11 hours when people learn stuff like this in a class over the course of a week....so yeah, frustration was mounting...especially since I did all of this after a long, physical day at work.

Yes, I know. But I have sent mythlogic emails (2, actually) asking them for information that is needed in the tables that hold the resellers' information...they haven't responded

Sure, I'll go ahead and check them out...since this is a thread for NBR, I would prefer them to have profiles on NBR, but I guess I could move out of my comfort zone a bit. But only because I've heard good things about LBO and AL.

Thanks Justin Perhaps you could give me some extra discounts? Jk.

Mr. Mysterious

 

Great Job! Thank you for your great contibution of time here on the forum! +1

 

awesome just took a look. perhaps when you make the section about all of the current notebooks you could put which re-sellers carry which models. also include the differences between the models like between the 8130 8150 and 8170. make sure to include which graphics cards will work with each model i.e. 8130 with 580m, but you need to up the psu. good job so far, and hope you take my considerations.

 

Already on that...if you read the 2nd page of posts, you'd see that I said last night I'm already working on the tables for each of the individual laptops

Mr. Mysterious

 

I did see that, which is why i posted the suggestions

 

I don't think people will be too lazy to click a link and find out which resellers are selling which product Let them do some work!

I've posted what I've been working on, what do you think?

Update: Finished with the notebooks...now onto Mythologic and a couple of others (GenTech PC, LogicalBlueOne, AffordableLaptops....and....I think that's it).

Mr. Mysterious

 

Thank you for the great work! +1 rep

 

You're welcome, Aikimox

I'm pretty much done now. I might have to add three more resellers, but I'm waiting for the information to come in. Otherwise I'm done.

Thank you Malibal for the help with the code, and to everyone else that contributed to this new guide

Mr. Mysterious

 

great stuff indeed! +1 rep from me as well

just one little side note: the P150HM can take up to 16GB of RAM

cheers

 

Great job here, +1) Very precise and understandable updated quide!

 

I'd like to vouch for LogicalBlueOne as well. They are pretty much top notch, comparable to the other worldwide resellers. And they in fact, do have a representative on NBR (user: jack-lbo). Just PM him and I think he'll get back to your inquiries.

And nice guide by the way

 

Like i posted before the p151hm and p150hm can only support 2 sticks of 4gb ram at 1600mhz, no more, but it can support 16bg at 1333mhz. however the p170hm can support 16gb at 1600mhz.

I find it kind of offensive that resellers would even put the option to do 16gb of 1600 Mhz ram on their website, seeing as it will just downclock to 1333 Mhz, so basically when you pick that option you are wasting your money. on a side note you can use pnp ram of any frequency, but it will be more expensive.

If what I'm saying is wrong someone please tell me, otherwise it needs to be put into the guide thanks.

btw looks really good and perhaps you could put the clevo name and then the sager name in the title for each section like the this Clevo P150HM/ Sager NP8130.

 

First, the laptops DO run just fine with 16GB of 1600MHz, or for that Fact 16GB of 1866MHz we wouldn't put it up there if it didn't that would be bad business.

Ok,

So here is WHY the Clevo manuals state that only two sticks "support" 1600MHz, and why they "have" to be the bottom two.

So JEDEC has standards for signal and noise on the traces on the motherboard. JEDEC standard for 1600MHz basically makes the DIMM slots on the front of the board "too far" away from the CPU to allow them to be certified for higher speed. Now, NOTE this is a standard based on length and insulation etc, its not a hard and fast rule. So simply while the Clevo motherboards are not within JEDEC standard for 1600MHz they have designed the boards with enough insulation and tolerance to allow for the speeds anyway, but because they are not within the standard they don't advertise such a thing. Thats all, so after extensive testing we and other companies have proved it works just fine and we offer it to our customers. We would not be trying to pull a fast one on anyone =)

 

ok thanks, just was kind of confused because of things ive seen on intel's website and other reseller's sites.

 

thats great news on the RAM! upgradeability up to DDR3-1866, nice! heres to future proof laptops, just hope that the prices for 8GB DDR3-1866 modules will decline fast enough in the next 1-2 years

 

you could do that with pnp already, do you mean normal ram will be supported?

 

I don't understand your policy towards listing resellers ... is this to be US based only? Or only resellers that you ehm ... like? If that's not the case, surely you are missing dozens. 3 or 4 I can think of in Germany, 2 in France, 2 in the UK, 1 in Sweden, 1 in Norway .... and so on.

 

"Forum-Recommended Resellers: These are resellers that have proven themselves in the NBR forums, providing support and gathering a loyal fan base. They have been participating in NBR for at least 6 months and have a proven track record:"

 

Hi Mr Mysterious.

I am here on NBR and pop in from time to time to see if i can lend any assistance.

Thanks

 

How about some European resellers? Great effort by the way!

 

Digital Storm x15 Laptop

Is this a Clevo Reseller? Looks like a Sager to me, just wanted to double check. Sorry if wrong thread!

 

yes you can tell by the keyboard and looks the same as the one in the add on the top of this thread, and they look cheaper if you just want the 560m on the p150 platform

 

Great seeing this finally rewritten and updated!

 

Heads-up: Under "Resellers", Malibal's image needs to be re-uploaded. All I am currently getting is a notice of removal by imageshack. Cheers for the topic.

 

Thanks for this! This will be helpful!

 

Thanks a ton for the awesome (updated) thread! Helped me get my new lappy ...repped

 

Thanks! I didn't know most of the "Common Sense Information" listed.

 

RJTECH.COM not listed? I bought P150HM from the in April.

 

quick question: the only difference between the chassis of the 8130 and 8150 is the rubber coating surrounding the keyboard, and the lcd top. so couldn't you just swap those panels out?

 

Well, I was just PM'd by Malibal that they would be offering warranty that has Canada-based support with free 2-way shipping "soon"... and by that they mean it is being offered now So far, the only two resellers in the USA that I have seen with this kind of warranty are Mythlogic and now Malibal.

Straight from Malibal's configuration:

"3 Year Ltd. Labor and 1 Year Parts Warranty with 24/7 Support (Canada)
Lifetime Support, FREE Shipping Both Ways & Serviced In Canada"

Maybe the reseller information should be updated to reflect this?

 

This is great. Thanks for the revision!