Clevo Guide v3.0 - FAQ and Reseller Info ****READ BEFORE POSTING****

Welcome to NBR. Unfortunately we do not accept international cards through our website, but you can PM me as we do have a solution that may work for you.

 

Well, I do international, and if someone likes, I can also send from my personal address and send as a gift and use a lower declared value. I've never had anything go wrong yet, maybe 75% of all my orders are internationally oversea's.

Why Pay more locally when someone like me can send it INTERNATIONALLY and its STILL cheaper, and higher quality, and guaranteed.

 

Logical Blue One has gone out of business couple of years ago here in Australia. There is now only one Clevo reseller which is Metabox. Affordable Laptops only resells certain systems built and customised from Metabox directly.

 

You might want to send a message to a moderator to let them know of that change, to have the list fixed. Thanks for letting us know!

 

Still able to sell internationally if anyone needs, if there are no other resellers in your area.

 

Howdy folks. I'm speccing out a laptop for work and trying to figure out the difference between:

• the P870 and the P775 chassis
  • it seems to mainly be size and I guess the 870 is geared more towards SLI.
  • I'm considering a single 1070 or 1080 (no-SLI). Obviously the saved kg and $ on the P775 is attractive but given the no-free-lunch adage I'm wondering if the P870 offers better thermal design. I will be crunching numbers on this (engineering/scientific computing) so thermal throttling is a bit of a concern.
• DM2 vs DM3 sub models
  • very little idea on this. Again related to power and/or SLI?

Also looking to buy in Australia. At the moment probably leaning towards Metabox or AffordableLaptops (which seems oddly cheaper) but if anybody here has ordered from overseas and had a good experience I'm not against re-considering.

 

Please let me know. I am considering the same thing right now.

 

P870 has a better cooling system and the internal layout is quite different. The chassis is more open in the P870. I would recommend going with the P870 even if your preference is single GPU. It's a better product overall. The heat sink on the P775 is its Achilles Heel. It is a unified design that does not work as effectively and its capacity for cooling is diminished compared to the P870.

 

Higher quality? Seriously though, because paying "more" is the legal way of doing business and the other option is tax fraud, which in every country I am aware of is illegal and btw in the US is a federal offence.

 

Then I suggest people in the states do not do fraud, because it is a federal offense, nor in the UK, or elsewhere.

We assemble these in Canada, and I determine it's value based on my time and effort involved, legally, so do not worry.
Invoices would reflect that, of course, and can be provided if needed. Where there's an issue, of course, like sending to the UK, we can even do VATS - prepaid if needed.

Anyways, I can send our products world wide. I can also offer my third party services world wide, to bring a name and service you trust where it is needed or wanted.

I have partners in the UK, and if XMG wants our services, that can be offered too.

Shipping back and forth can be made inexpensive, and of course legal, since returning an item to it's owner is not susceptible to importation taxes.

Why pay more then you have to, there are so many companies in the UK for instance that charge so much - it's insane- that's what I mean, thanks for letting me clarify.

Honestly 75% my business is in the UK or Europe, or Russia/Poland, ASIA, etc..

 

Considering that you're a Eurocom reseller you need to contact the moderators and get setup with a reseller account, in order to abide by the forum rules ;-)

Just to help explain this further and so that you don't get into trouble, you can't just determine the value based on time and effort. The value which you declare for customs has to be the value that the customer paid you for the product, including the shipping cost that you charge. There's no harm in running the business from your personal address, but if you offer to ship from there as a "gift" and with "lower declared value" then the only reason to do this is to avoid paying import tax. Both parties break the law in these circumstances, it's not just the customer, it's the seller as well. Plus it's not fair on companies in the local area which do charge proper VAT / sales tax.

For example, when you need to import back into a country for warranty/RMA then yes there are ways to make sure no one pays sales tax twice, your courier will advise on the best way to do this. Once you reach a certian point you actually have to pay the sales tax on an import and then claim this back in your VAT quarter.

Actually when you compare the ex VAT price from UK companies with that of the 0% sales tax of companies in Canada the pricing is really not that much different - that's without taking into account things like ease and speed of shipping, warranty servicing and so on!

If you want any more advice on any of these points, to make sure that no one has any problems, then please feel free to pm me.

P.S. We have an office in the UK, but thanks for the offer ;-)

 

I'm not one of thier vendors, I do not get an official vendor price, I do not have a storefront or a website, it's just a small hobby I offer to help people in need.

When I do on occasion sell something, directly from me, and not just helping someone buy from someone else or such, I make a pittance.

However, being decently well off, there was a time I was screwed over 3-4 times in a row by people online, and it pissed me off, so I decided screw this, I will under cut them offering the same thing, until they disappear so no one was bothered by them again.

I made no money, but came out at cost, after a year of doing this. ebay for instance went from having 20+ sketchy sellers selling used and broken parts as new and crap to having pretty much only the serious people who meant well, maybe 4-5 people now selling.

I'm sure this BGA craze and compatibility issues and how NVidia is not helping OEM sellers produce MXM standard cards anymore, is gonna take care of the rest now too.

I would love to be an official reseller, don't know what's involved, I'm just alone, no partners or anything, so it could be more trouble then it's worth. I do have an impeccable record though with Eurocom.

used to sell and help people buy from HIDevolution, but then they started to ignore me and like forgot who I was after a year, so natural evolution I suppose. Eurocom knew this, and was nice enough to help me out, but they asked that I stick to them only, and they would take care of me.

Maybe someone should convince them to hire me, that would work better for people, haha.

I'm like a lot of people on this forum, I buy whats new if it's fancy and interests me every time something new and fancy comes out, and I want to get the most out of it, and since I have no other real hobby, I like to share my thoughts with others and help them do the same.

 

Hey guys, wondering if anyone has any advice or recomondations for me. I have a friend looking to get a new laptop for school and possibly getting into some light gaming so I want to get him something with a video card in it. Originally looked at the new Dell 7000 series but I saw the Sager np5855 is about the same price a lot of places right now and I feel it is much better quality than a Dell computer.

I was hoping anyone else might have any advice or insight as to the best location to purchase one from. So far XoticPC looks like the cheapest at 729 currently with no operating system which I can find or provide for cheaper than going up to 799 from Sager or other vendors. Would any other vendors potentially have this cheaper right now? My friend also used to be in the army and can potentially get military discounts. XoticPC does not offer one on this specifc laptop but curious if any other vendors may offer a discount that could bring it down below this one.

My buddies budget is 700, I know he can probably push 729 if he had to but then still needs an OS. Hoping I might be able to find something all included for 700 otherwise it looks like Xotic might be our best bet and then get an operating system after.

 

This thread should be updated as a lot of the information is out of date, and several of the resellers are either no longer participating on this forum or have closed up shop entirely.

 

I created a thread about clevo on tomshardware and linustechtips
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-3455709/clevo-custom-laptops-world-clevo-resellers.html
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/802163-clevo-custom-laptops-and-world-clevo-resellers/

______________________________ Clevo Resellers_______________________

________ America_________
Canada
http://www.eurocom.com/ec/main()ec
http://www.reflexnotebook.com/

USA
https://www.sagernotebook.com/home.php
http://www.xoticpc.com/
http://www.hidevolution.com/
http://www.pro-star.com/
https://www.gentechpc.com/
https://www.rjtech.com/
https://www.originpc.com/
https://lpc-digital.com/
http://www.malibal.com/
https://www.mythlogic.com/
https://system76.com/laptops

http://www.digitalstorm.com/gaming-laptops.asp

Brazil
http://www.microwaynotebooks.com.br/sager/modules/mastop_publish/
http://powernote.com.br/index.html
https://avell.com.br


___________ Asia__________
Singapore
https://www.aftershockpc.com/welcome/products/notebooks

http://www.pluto.com.sg/categories.asp?cat=8

China
http://www.terransforce.com/
http://www.hasee.com/en/index.aspx

Malaysia
http://www.illegear.com/
https://www.techarmory.my/index.php?route=product/category&path=73

Philippines
https://helix.com.ph/sager/

Japan
http://www.g-tune.jp/

India

http://www.azom.systems/




____________ Oceania_____________
Australia

http://www.metabox.com.au/
http://www.affordablelaptops.com.au/

https://resistance.com.au/





___________ Africa__________

South Africa
http://www.comx.co.za/proline-laptops-south-africa.php
http://mecer.co.za/http:/mecer.co.za/news/products/portable/notebook/





Do you know other clevo resellers?

 

All Clevo Notebooks


___________________________________2-cores CPU__________________________________________

_______13” BGA CPU _______

N130BU/N131BU i3-7100u/i5-7500u/i7-7600u
(aka Sager NP3130, Raiontech UL2, Santech LV4, Schenker Slim 13, PCSpecialist Lafite III)
[Dimensions: 329 x 225 x 17.8 mm (W x D x H) / Battery:36Wh / Weight: 1,30 kg with battey]

Reviews
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3198671/linux/the-system...
https://betanews.com/2017/06/07/system76-galago-pro-lin...
http://tomstechnicalblog.blogspot.it/2017/05/system76-g...
Official Thread
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/official-clevo-...





_______14” BGA CPU________

N240BU/N241BU i3-7100u/i5-7500u/i7-7600u
(aka Sager NP3245, Raiontech L2, Schenker Slim 14, PCSpecialist UltraNote IV LE)
[Dimensions: 340x 243.5x 22.2mm (W x D x H) / Battery:44Wh / Weight: 1,80 kg with battey]






______15” BGA CPU________

N750BU (N751BU Grey) i5-7500u/i7-7600u
(aka Raiontech A1B, Schenker Slim 15, PCSpecialist UltraNote IV)
[Dimensions:377 x 259 x 22,8 mm (W x D x H) / Battery:44Wh / Weight: 2,10 kg with battery]



___________________________________4-cores CPU__________________________________________

_______14” BGA CPU________


P640HJ1 (P641HJ1) i7-7700hq+gtx1050 /P640HK1 (P641HK1) i7-7700hq+gtx1050ti
(aka Raiontech GXL2, Santech T75, XMG P407, Schenker Compact 14, PCSpecialist Defiance III)
[Dimensions: 349x247x25.4mm (W x D x H) / Battery:45Wh / Weight: 2,10 kg with battey]

Reviews
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Schen...7-Clevo-P641HK1-Notebook-Review.207220.0.html
Official Thread
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/official-clevo-...




______15” BGA CPU________

N850HN i5-7300hq or i7-7700hq+940mx / N850HC i5-7300hq or i7-7700hq+gtx950 / N850HJ1 i5-7300hq or i7-7700hq+gtx1050 / N850HK1 i5-7300hq or i7-7700hq+gtx1050ti
(aka Sager NP5850, Sager NP6850, Sager NP6852, XOTIC G55 Excalibur, Raiontech N3B, Raionbook G4, Santech X95, XMG A507, Schenker Media 15, PCSpecialist Cosmos VI)
[Dimensions:385 x 268 x 28,5 mm (W x D x H) / Battery:48.84/62Wh / Weight: 2,40 kg with battey]

Review
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sager-np6852-gaming-laptop-review,4955.html
Official Thread
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/official-clevo-...



N857HJ1 i5-7300hq or i7-7700hq+gtx1050 /N857HK1 i5-7300hq or i7-7700hq+gtx1050ti
(aka Notebookguru Guru SUN K, PCSpecialist Optimus VIII)

Review
http://www.trustedreviews.com/pc-specialist-optimus-viii-review




N850HP6 i5-7300hq or i7-7700hq+gtx1060 6gb
(aka Sager NP7850, XOTIC G63 Raider, XMG A517)
[Dimensions:378 x 267 x 29,9 mm (W x D x H) / Battery:62Wh / Weight: 2,50 kg with battey]

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/thoughts-on-np7850-n850hp6.804374/



P650HP3 (P651HP3) i7-7700hq+gtx1060 3gb / P650HP6 (P651HP6) i7-7700hq/i7-7820hk+gtx1060 6gb / P650HS (P651HS) i7-7700hq+gtx1070
(aka Sager NP8156, Sager NP8157, XOTIC G65 Raider, Raiontech GK3C, Santech C57, XMG P507, Schenker Compact 15, PCSpecialist Defiance III)
[Dimensions:385x271x25mm/29mm (W x D x H) / Battery:60Wh / Weight: 2,80 kg with battey]

Review
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sager-np8156-gaming-laptop,4954.html
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Euroc...HD-Clevo-P650HS-G-Laptop-Review.229236.0.html
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/sager-np8157-clevo-p650hs-g-review-by-htwingnut.801138/
Official Thread
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...er-np8155-np8156-np8157-owners-lounge.801201/





P950HP6 i7-7700hq+gtx1060 6gb /P950HR i7-7700hq+gtx1070 Max-Q
(aka Sager NP8950, Sager NP8952, ONE K56-7P)
[Dimensions: 380x249x18,55 mm (W x D x H) / Battery:55Wh / Weight: 1,90 kg with battey]

Review
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/sager-np8950-clevo-p950hp6-review-by-htwingnut.805339/
Official Thread
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/official-clevo-...




_______15” LGA CPU________

N350DU/N350DW
(aka EUROCOM Commander, Schenker Dock 15, Nexoc B519)
[Dimensions: 382x259.5x32.95 mm (W x D x H) / Battery:62.16Wh / Weight: 2.5kg kg with battey]

Review
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Nexoc-B519-Clevo-N350DW-Review.157564.0.html
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-F516-Flex-i5-6400T-Clevo-N350DW-Notebook-Review.160681.0.html



W650KJ1 (W651HK1) gtx1050 / W650KK1 (W651KK1) gtx1050ti
(aka Notebookguru Guru ICE K Extreme, Nexoc G522)
[Dimensions: 374x252x31.8 mm (W x D x H) / Battery:48.84Wh/62.16Wh / Weight: 2.5kg/2,70 kg with battey]

Review
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-w650kk1-cooling-system-reviews.802390/



N650DU
(aka Schenker Office 15)
[Dimensions: 374x263.45x32.5 mm (W x D x H) / Battery:62.16Wh / Weight: 2.70 kg with battey]

Review
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/n650du-reviews.803292/



P750DM2 (P751DM2) gtx1060/gtx1070/gtx1080 (MXM GPU)
(aka EUROCOM Sky X4E2, Sager NP9153, Raiontech DX1B, Santech R39, XMG U507, PCSpecialist Octane III)
[Dimensions:386 x 262 x 38mm (W x D x H) / Battery:82Wh / Weight: 3,40 kg with battey]

Review
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-XMG-U507-Clevo-P751DM2-G-Laptop-Review.209180.0.html
https://www.kitguru.net/lifestyle/m...com-sky-x4e2-laptop-review-i7-7700k-gtx-1070/
Official thread
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/official-clevo-...




________17” BGA CPU________

N870HN i5-7300hq or i7-7700hq+940mx / N870HC i5-7300hq or i7-7700hq+gtx950/N870HJ1 i5-7300hq or i7-7700hq+gtx1050 /N870HK1 i5-7300hq or i7-7700hq+gtx1050ti
(aka Sager NP5870, Sager NP6872, XOTIC G57 Excalibur, Raionbook G4, XMG A707, Schenker Media 17, PCSpecialist Optimus VIII)
[Dimensions:418.5 x 284 x 27.4 mm (W x D x H) / Battery:48.84/62Wh / Weight: 2.85 kg with battey]

Review
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Nexoc-G739-Clevo-N870HK1-Laptop-Review.211640.0.html
Official Thread
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/official-clevo-...




P670HP6 (P671HP6) i7-7700hq/i7-7820hk+gtx1060 6gb / P670HS (P671HS) i7-7700hq/i7-7820hk+gtx1070
(aka Sager NP8176, Sager NP8177, XOTIC G67 Raider, XOTIC G73 Prowler, Raiontech GK3C, Santech C57, XMG P707, Schenker Compact 17, PCSpecialist Defiance III)
[Dimensions:417x287x30mm (W x D x H) / Battery:60Wh / Weight: 3.30 kg with battey]

Review
https://www.kitguru.net/lifestyle/m...ecialist-defiance-iii-17-3-laptop-w-gtx-1060/
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Nexoc-G734IV-Clevo-P670HS-G-Notebook-Review.197022.0.html
Official Thread
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/official-clevo-...




PA70HP6 (PA71HP6) i7-7700hq/i7-7820hk+gtx1060 6gb / PA70HS (PA71HS) i7-7700hq/i7-7820hk+gtx1070
(aka One GAMING K73-7M)
[Dimensions:418.5 x 287 x 24.9 mm (W x D x H) / Battery:66Wh / Weight: 3.40 kg with battey]

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/pa71hp6-g.806028/
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-pa70hs-g.805708/




_________17” LGA CPU__________

P775DM3 gtx1060/gtx1070/gtx1080 (MXM GPU)
(aka EUROCOM Sky X7E2, Sager NP9172, Raiontech GTD, Santech G49, XMG U717, PCSpecialist Octane III)
[Dimensions:418 x 295.3 x 40.9 mm (W x D x H) / Battery:82Wh / Weight: 3,90 kg with battey]

Review
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Eurocom-Sky-X7E2-Clevo-P775DM3-Notebook-Review.178427.0.html
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/origin-eon17-x-2016
https://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/origin-eon-17-x
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...775dm3-sager-np9172-ex76s-bossmonster.797357/
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/droidmahns-clevo-p775dm3-sager-np9172-review.795901/

Official Thread
http://www.hwupgrade.it/forum/showthread.php?t=2783740
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-np9172-wingman-2-0-batman-3-0-lounge.794538/
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...dm2-3-g-p75xdm2-g-sager-np9152-np9172.795772/
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...dm2-3-g-p75xdm2-g-sager-np9152-np9172.795911/




P870DM2 gtx1070 SLI (MXM GPU) MBZ170 /P870DM3 gtx1080 SLI(MXM GPU) MBZ170
(aka EUROCOM Sky X9E2, Sager NP9872, Sager NP9873, XMG U727 2016)

Review
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-XMG-U727-Clevo-P870DM3-G-Notebook-Review.173957.0.html
https://www.kitguru.net/lifestyle/m...ist-vortex-vi-laptop-review-6700kgtx1080-sli/
https://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/origin-eon-17-slx-10-series
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/sager-np9873-clevo-p870dm3-quick-review-by-htwingnut.795187/
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/evoc-p870dm3-review-by-phoenix.798685/
Official Thread
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...2-owners-lounge-the-phoenix-2-is-here.794530/
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...o-p870dm2-p870dm3-sager-np9873-np9872.795771/


P870KM-GS gtx1080 (MXM GPU) MBZ270 /P870KM gtx1070 SLI (MXM GPU) MBZ270 /P870KM1 gtx1080 SLI (MXM GPU) MBZ270
(aka EUROCOM Sky X9E3, Sager NP9876, Raiontech GTX2, XMG U727, PCSpecialist Vortex VI)
[Dimensions:428 x 308 x 47.2 mm (W x D x H) / Battery:89Wh / Weight: 4.80kg/5,50 kg with battey]

Reviews
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Schen...7-Clevo-P870KM-GS-Laptop-Review.205392.0.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Eurocom/Sky_X9E3/
Official Thread
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ager-np9876-owners-lounge-phoenix-3-0.800081/






These Reseller make LGA Cpu delidding:
-Obsidian PC (+ Lapping & Polish)
-Schenker/XMG
-Raiontech
-Hidevolution
-CEG-Hardcore Custom
-Laptopparts4less




These Resellers are Prema Partners:

-Hidevolution
-Avell
-Azom Systems
-Dreammachines
-Clevocenter
-Mythlogic
-Lpc-digital
-Xoticpc

 

@ sicily428 > truly excellent work, an amazing resource !!

 

In Italy we have Santech.
http://www.santech.eu/notebook/g49-series
Unfortunately it dont offer support for the "prema" bios and this is a shame.

 

Link are not working for few reseller and other reseller needed to be added.

 

Well at this point, some people are selling P775DM2/DM3 laptops because they did not wish to upgrade them to the P775TM-G versions, or it was too expensive before now.

pick one of these up for a fraction and then only a tiny bit more and you have a new laptop with the latest everything. Me and other resellers have these new kits available. But all this suggests you want the best of the best and maybe still have a budget and are a crazy hardware fan, and love upgrades , which most everyone on these forums does. haha

 

do you have TMs motherboards? are the compatible with DM3s chassis?

 

I have a whole upgrade kit very cheap.

We have P775DM2/DM3 to P775TM1-G upgrade kits available.

Here is list of parts coming in upgrade kit:

1: P775TM1-G Motherboard

2: P775TM1 Top Case complete with touchpad, LID switch board, Subwoofer w/ cable, Speaker w/ cable

3: GPU heatsink

4: CPU heatsink

 

So not only a motherboard upgrade? All that is needed? The unified heatsink is not compatible?

 

it basically turns it into the TM-1 and I have it for essentially half price for the next little while.

 

Are there suggested resources for getting diagnosis and repair work on a Clevo-derived build, when the original builder and reseller appears to no longer be a substantially functioning business?

 

del