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    Clevo P1x0HM users with 7970M/680M - Ordered? Installed? OCed? Lets have it! :)

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by jaybee83, Jul 1, 2012.

  1. hackness

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    853/2450 is still pretty good.
     
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    Yeah !!! and i can confirm the 70 fps average on crysis 2 :D (1600x900 DX11 ultra +TextureS HD... ) vs the honorable 40 fps of the GTX580M (OC 721/1700) in the same condition.
    Hey Hackness, got your card replace ?
     
  3. hackness

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    Not yet sadly, still waiting for Clevo to ship it back to the seller then the seller ship it to me. I'm guessing another week for this.
     
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    @Tonrac the thing is no matter how much better the tolerance is meaker was still running his at 1.075 which is way higher than yours or HTWingNut , however we are not sure if it is stable at gaming at that voltage but I'm glad you are enjoying your gtx 680m which is still nearly twice as strong as your gtx 580M OC :;D
     
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    Here is the K5000M btw guys :p

    [​IMG]
     
  6. hackness

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    They underclocked it so much, almost 20% weaker than 680M and the memory bandwidth is the same as a 675M.
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    So basicly you pay $500-ish more for the same performance as 680M with SVL7 mod edit? :p

    Yeah its a bit weaker than 680M. It runs pretty cool though. 67C on 3DMark11 inside a Elitebook with crappy cooling system.
     
  9. Killerinstinct

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    Nvidia logic seems to be lol pay more then over clock it yourself :p
     
  10. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Payed the same as for a GTX680M...get the same gaming performance and double the pro performance. ;)
     
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    Yeah I saw that, $800 is AMAZING price for the pro performance. You make a good point Prema :)

    But thats not the normal price it goes for though.

    GTX 680M: $990

    Quadro K5000M: $2500

    Sick difference in price :D :D :D
     
  12. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    I work so much with Pro Aps that I simply had to do it... ;)
    BTW, unlike the HP the DELL K5000M BIOS has Turbo Boost enabled...
     
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    Do you have a GPU-Z screeny of it? It have better cooling system than HP, perhaps HP is thermal restricted while Dell is not since Precision have dual fans :)

    If I remember correctly it scored around 5800 GPU points in 3DMark11 or something?
     
  14. Tonrac

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    testing the msi vbios oc edition (no OV but with unlocked software overclocking limits so can get past the +135MHz core limit.).
    It allow me to test if msi vbios is compatible with the combo P150HM/GTX680M and if it is, test the limit of the stability of the card at standard voltage.
    I also ask to sl7v if it could mod GTX680M bioses

    Result: The msi bios has strange behaviour on P150HM/GTX680M combo, sometimes it take 3d clock sometimes no.
     
  15. Meaker@Sager

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    With the back off i dont throttle in kombuster and its 100% game stable.
     
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    How's your power consumption?
     
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    New Game New OC and new Temp:

    Installed Max Payne 3
    1080 P and really anything I could find in the graphic settings maxed out.
    OC 1030/2450 , 2 hours of gameplay and max temp is 85 C

    But even with that OC the game seems to run on low fps in between.

    No down-clocking or throttling of the GPU what so ever
     
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    Just ordered a GTX 680m for my P150HM through Mythlogic. I'll be honest, when I originally bought my p150HM with the 485m installed, I never expected to be able to upgrade the GPU with anything beyond a modest 10% improvement. I'm really excited about this, and so glad for having bought through Mythlogic. Their Phoenix Upgrade Plan is no joke, as the price of my GPU and IC diamond combined with shipping handily beats the best price listed here so far. :cool:
     
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    190-200W when pushing it :eek:
     
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    @Jason: Congratulations mate ... waiting your feedback ... see you
     
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    @ Tonrac :Sorry....but I have another question. Where are you getting the vbios for the 680 from and how do you flash it?
     
  22. jaybee83

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    when pushed to the max (prime95/furmark with OC) my system's PSU gives out after like 10 seconds :eek:

    but unrealistic situation anyways,never gonna happen under regular gaming circumstances :)

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
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    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    wow so it uses more power than the 485m?
     
  24. Killerinstinct

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    jaybee also has a I7 2860QM which uses a good amount of wattage more than the I7 2630Qm but it might be a difference of 10-30 Watts i think,
     
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    7970M has a monstrous performance without OC, i feel really sorry for ATI's image to be washed like that into the drean by AMD for not addressing the utilization issues plaguing the Clevo EM series. :(

    @ jaybee83: a bit of advice here could you please? i decided to turn it up a notch for this card so i tried to OC it a bit higher than the stock to 906/1300 (which is not much) to have an incredible benchmark result in "heaven" with high setting (see attached). however, at this level of OC, i had a flickering effect on the screen in the game session and out when i turned into the desktop. any idea what causes this? is it an issue related to the core voltage of my card? which is stuck at 1.000 V in my case, or else which i am missing here!

    bench_7970M.jpg
     
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    Are you using MSI Afterburner? If so try turning off PowerPlay for overclocking. Enable "UnofficialOverclockingMode" to 2 instead of 1 in the configuration file for Afterburner and see if that helps; it did for me when I had desktop tearing after an overclock. Just note that your GPU will remain at 3D clocks and voltage when you exit your 3D application, so you will either need to reboot your system or enable PowerPlay again in Afterburner and reset your clocks to get back to idle clocks and voltage after a gaming session every time you overclock.
     
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    Thanks Wallzii I'll check it out when i get home

    Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2
     
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    Considering both are rated for 45W, I doubt the 2630qm uses only 15W.
     
  29. Killerinstinct

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    That's thermal design power, its how they state the heat generated from the chip and if your cooling system coup with dealing with this heat. Also think you can't get more speed without giving something back , they are based on the same architecture

    Review Intel Sandy Bridge (Core i7) Update - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

    That has the 2860qm the bottom one has a 2630qm also the reason why I say 10-30 is the test systems are different but the point is still made by looking at the differences between other sandy bridge processors

    Intel Sandy Bridge Processors Gaming Performance: Part II - Notebookcheck.net Reviews
     
  30. hackness

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    The highest load I have seen on the 3610QM is around 34W @ all core 3.1GHz, don't think the 2630QM is gonna be far from that.
     
  31. Killerinstinct

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    Ya I think your right about the 2630qm and the 3610qm . Here's an article that compares the ivy bridge cores to a 2760qm

    Review Intel Ivy Bridge Quad-Core Processors - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

    But again they are running on different systems so data will not be that easy to correlate with each other.

    EDIT: Actually maybe only 5-10 difference between the 2630QM and 2860QM , lol accidentally looked at the 2620M my bad.

    EDIT: So Meaker was right :D sorry about that
     
  32. DEagleson

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    Just posting to let you all know the GTX 680m i got from Prema is working in my P170HMx. :)
    Average idle is 40c while it reaches 60c while playing Mass Effect 3.
    I have not bothered to overclock or overvolt.

    My average fps was more jittery than my HD 6970m when livestreaming but i think thats because of the extra time AMD had to polish their drivers.

    Next upgrade will probably be a Crucial M4 512gb SSD and a i7 2920XM.
    (Or a Vertex 4 if its proven to be stable)

    Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
     
  33. jaybee83

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    ill do a prime95 wattage check later on and tell u exactly what the cpu wattage is under full load :) (btw using a modded bios by prema that enables permanent turbo boost)

    cheers

    edit: so after 10 min. of prime95 at 8 threads ive got a peak cpu wattage of 67W with a stable long-term consumption at 60W. these numbers contain only the CPU package!

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
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    Deagleson, care to run a 3dmark11 benchmark and post score please?
    Also, what cpu you are using and finally what your 3dmark11 score with old card was.
    Thnx :)

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  35. hackness

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    67W, that's close to the 1st gen i7 940XM @ 3.2GHz on my other laptop. Once I get the 3740QM (I received a wrong CPU from the seller, core duo T9900 lol.......... returned and waiting for the seller to send a new one) I'll test and see how much W it does at full load.
     
  36. TopFuel_

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    This thread is amazing and is THE place to get information about 7970m & 680m in P1X0HM
    I have read through 44 pages (kind of) and there are a lot of good and valid information.
    But, jaybee, is it a good idea to add a summary on the first post?
    Example;

    Confirmed;
    ATI 7970m works in Clevo P1X0HM, Requirements; Need special vbios
    Nvidia 680m works in Clevo P1X0HM, Requirements; Need special adapted driver inf file

    Performance figures:
    ATI 7970m

    Nvidia 680m

    Issues;
    ATI 7970m
    Requirement: Need special vbios (can be done “blind”)
    User nasssq8: The HDMI output is not functioning. No signal is pumping through to my external display. Unfortunately this is a kind of limitation of 7970M in P150HM. However, the DVI output is ok and working with no problem. Waiting for some wiz to resolve that issue.

    Nvidia 680m
    Requirement: Need special adapted driver inf file
    Various voltage findings 1.00 to 1.05
    User bmpm5: I am no longer able to change the brightness with the fn key.

    Links and prices for purchase of upgrade kit
    US ATI 7970m
    ATI HD 7970M 2GB Mobile Video Card $480

    US Nvidia 680m
    NVIDIA® GeForce® 460M GTX 1.5GB GDDR5 $799

    Europe ATI 7970m

    Europe Nvidia 680m
     
  37. jaybee83

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    yup that is a very good idea indeed my friend :) been thinking about exactly that for a while now, ill check and see what i can do about that,just a lil busy atm with job and visa applications ^^

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
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    I am using a i7 2720QM, was the default CPU when i bought my notebook last year.
    Probably wont do any 3DMark stuff for now, dont see any reason to do it and it would also be fuel to the whole 7970m vs 680m troll stuff thats happening here on NBR at the moment.
    But i think it would probably do over P6000 on default settings.
     
  39. Killerinstinct

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    The voltages for the GTX 680M are .925 to .987 V stock and with modded bios it varies from 1.035/1.012 to 1.05/1.037<--- second one Im not sure.

    the 7970M voltages vary between 1.00 to 1.05 but the 1.05 is modded voltage.



    What program did you use to get CPU wattage , HWMonitor or some other one ?
     
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    And add that currently the P170HM3, the one with 3D screen doesn't work with any AMD and the GTX680M gives black screen after modded driver installation.

    I'll try to get it going in about two weeks on my own system...
     
  41. jaybee83

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    if anyone can do it its u prema ;)

    @killer: used hwinfo64, it accurately shows max min and current cpu wattage for whole package and for the cores :)

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
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    @jaybee, what did you mean by permanent turbo boost, Like was it all 4 cores at full speed ?

    Here are my results for the I7-2630QM , KillerinstinctI72630QM.jpg

    I got max of 51.459 and average around 42-45 Watts, this was the same conditions, max power consumption test with 10 mins
     
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    3610QM + ThrottleStop 5.00 + Prime95

    [​IMG]

    Tops at 41.391W, 85C, all 4 cores at 3.1GHz full time, guess the power optimization on the Ivy bridge is really well done. Will test 3740QM on monday.
     
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    yeah, the modified BIOS sets the allowed TDP levels higher (stock is at 45W long term and....55W? short-term i think). i have two modified BIOS versions, one with 60W long and 70W short and one with 65W long and 75W short (whereas the absolute limit seems to be 72W for short, since thats what it shows in throttlestop). im on the 60/70W version, cuz i dont see any difference above that anymore.
    it definitely improves the turbo boost in that it stays way longer at 3.3 Ghz than at stock values :) before i wasnt even able to reach the max. 3.6 Ghz on one core, only up to 3.4 Ghz. now im able to do that! thanks again to prema for his BIOS magic :p

    cheers
     
  45. hackness

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    I tried running Prime95 and Kombuster at the same time, I keep seeing the screen dims and lighten, I guess I'm reaching the maximum W on the 180W brick already with the combination of 3610QM (3.1GHz x 4 full time)@43W + 675M (No OC) :rolleyes:
     
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    That sounds like a board power limit.

    I got a system blackout at 1.05V with the faster CPU now so I think for the sake of my brick i'll have a well balanced system with the CPU oced and the GPU at around 950-975mhz at stock voltage.
     
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    Okay, just wanted to chime in with my own experience.

    P150HM with 680m
    BIOS: 1.01.14
    KBC/EC: 1.00.13
    NVIDIA driver: 304.79 beta + modded INF provided by LaptopNut. It would not run without the modded INF, and the BIOS shows the VGA adapter as "empty".
    3D Mark 11 GPU score: 6071
    Idle Temp: 38C
    Benchmark Temp: 73C after 3D Mark 11 run in room at ambient temp of 78F. No additional laptop cooler used for benchmark.
    Price: $685 before shipping from Mythlogic for existing Mythlogic customers.

    680m 3D Mark 11.jpg
     
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    Excellent JasonNH, again a worthy upgrade :D

    I've upgraded to the 230W PSU by the way and also removed my BCLK o/c. Now running like a charm with the 1.012v Saltius vbios for gaming - though GPU temps are (a bit) high under BF3 (88°C :GEEK :)
     
  49. hackness

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    @pau1ow,

    Is this video similar to what you did to resolder the tip? I know the tip showed in the video is different to 4 pin but the modding process is similar right?

     
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    I just cut the power tip (7.4mm x 5.5mm) from the 230W Adapter and then separated (+) from (-) with some heatshrink - then solder the 2 poles to the 5.5mm x 2.5mm tip I bought from Maplin (like electrical shop) - then use a bigger heatshrink to insulate the whole cord with the wires and now plenty of power for the overvolted 680M ! Really you just need it if you overvolt as I experienced shutdowns before - besides the 3820QM consumes from 6 to 8W more than the 3610QM under constand 3d load so that was required.
    Also, MSI' barebones draw more power than Clevo's according to NBC reviews.

    Here is a pic of the correct tip fitted:
    [​IMG]

    Max GPU temp is 93°C after an extensive BF3 game with 950/2500 - throttles appear when temp reaches 93°C - but that's without the modded backpanel :D
     
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