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    Clevo P370em

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by fantomasz, May 23, 2012.

  1. b0b1man

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    V-Sync stresses the gpu more, imho.
    In SC2 and Diablo3, when I have V-Sync enabled, my gpu gets higher temps.
     
    b0b1man, Aug 23, 2012
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  2. Bytales

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    That shouldn#t happen.
    Just buy a watt metter, and see for yourself the wattage usage when you have 100 fps in diablo 3, and the wattage usage when its capped at 60.

    The more ancient the game is, and the more fps the gpu system pushes non capped, the lower the powerusage will be with vsync on.

    And do use adaptive vsync please. That#s why we have nvidia cards.

    I will give you an example. I play stawar the old republic. All maxed out, aa 4x without shadows. Capped at 60 fps. 220-240w usage

    If i activate shadows, allthough the system can also mantain 60fps, (not all the time) the gpu load is more and the usage jumps to 270 280w

    The stronger the gpu system is, the less it has to do to maintain this 60 fps. As an example, if i were to have 680m sli in the x7200. I would say with all maxed out and capped would use about 210 if not less.
     
    Bytales, Aug 23, 2012
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    V-sync definitely reduces power consumption and stress on the GPU. I use it all the time when gaming on battery (on other laptops not my P150EM) and am able to control the power consumption by the frame cap I put on it. If your system can maintain a playable minimum FPS v-sync is a good idea.

    ***

    On another note, the P370EM user manual and drivers are available at Clevo's site now.
    CLEVO --> E-Services --> Download --> (Choose Drivers or User Manual) --> P370EM --> GO -->

    And download at your heart's content. The 5 language user manual seems to have more detailed where the English is just a generic manual more or less. Take a look at them both. Thanks to Larry @ LPC for the heads up!

    As I blew through the manual, a couple things caught my attention:

    - Page 14. Switchable powered USB port using Fn+Power you can turn on one of the USB ports to power a device through A/C or using the battery even if it's above 20%
    - This one is not promising though. Page 15 it says "The CPU is not a user serviceable part. Accessing the CPU in any way may violate your warranty."
     
    HTWingNut, Aug 23, 2012
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  4. spectroplasm

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    - This one is not promising though. Page 15 it says "The CPU is not a user serviceable part. Accessing the CPU in any way may violate your warranty." <<<<-----?!?!??! :( I hope this aint serious
     
    spectroplasm, Aug 23, 2012
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  5. jaug1337

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    Just looked it over... That's odd

    Maybe they just "advice" one not to change... hell I don't know, kinda a reseller option I guess
     
    jaug1337, Aug 23, 2012
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  6. b0b1man

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    The name of the manual..... why, Clevo....

    5-language concise user manual. ***.zip
     
    b0b1man, Aug 23, 2012
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  7. XMG

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    Well, with Furmark+Prime not so much, in real-world scenarios there might be some head room.

    By the way, we ran the DPC latency checker:

    [​IMG]

    Looking good. ^^
     
    XMG, Aug 23, 2012
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  8. jclausius

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    mySN.de,

    Did you happen to get CPU/GPU temps during any benches (stock or OC'd)? Can you share?
     
    jclausius, Aug 23, 2012
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  9. XMG

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    We did our own tests but we want to wait for the upcoming review at Notebookcheck before we publish any hard data. :)
     
    XMG, Aug 23, 2012
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  10. jclausius

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    Thx! Anxiously awaiting everyone's results.
     
    jclausius, Aug 23, 2012
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  11. WarrenJS

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    Is it just Eurocom and Origin that are open for pre-orders right now in North America? I have hunted through most of the resellers and have only found those two. Furthermore, I am assuming these are only pre-orders as well with the expected date is sometime in September.

    Any other insight out there from anyone?
     
    WarrenJS, Aug 25, 2012
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  12. HTWingNut

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    Sager is supposed to be selling a version of it as well, hopefully announced in the next couple of weeks.
     
    HTWingNut, Aug 25, 2012
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    Hoping that the soundcard wont be like...the 170EM's
     
    ForestEX, Aug 27, 2012
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  15. b0b1man

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    It will be the same chip (DAC). The EM series have the same as the HM and its the most current one from Realtek, so.... we are doomed.
    BUT....dont forget - we are getting Creative X-Fi MB2 software with it!
    So thats not just THX, but also other goodies as a dedicated EQ, player, EAH effects + more!
     
    b0b1man, Aug 28, 2012
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    XMG, Aug 28, 2012
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  18. The_Maniaq

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    Hey mysn,

    Can you just explain the extreme temperature difference between both GPU's under full load. One over 90 the other around 80 degrees. Is this due to CPU heatsink combination with one GPU headsink?

    thanks
     
    The_Maniaq, Aug 28, 2012
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  19. XMG

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    Hi The_Maniaq,

    of course we can only speculate but considering the final design, the shared CPU/GPU heatsink should be the main culprit here. Of course this won't be a problem in real-world scenarios (i.e. not Furmark).
     
    XMG, Aug 28, 2012
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  20. The_Maniaq

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    Thanks for your reply :)

    I saw,you still don't have the new corsair ssd in your shop ;) So i'll wait a bit still :) but i love this maschine :)

    danke und schönen tag ;)
     
    The_Maniaq, Aug 28, 2012
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  21. fenryr423

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    sounds like a bad paste job in the test unit to me
     
    fenryr423, Aug 28, 2012
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  22. jclausius

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    I just noticed this, and wanted to post a quick clarification.

    This is really TWO 300w adapters w/ a bridge used to connect the two. The same solution was used in the Clevo x7200 when OC'ing two GPUs and the CPU was tripping the original power adapter.
     
    jclausius, Aug 28, 2012
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  23. momo91315

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    get a single 680m and oc to p7500（probably under 85°）or get 2 680m which can't be oc（p10000，95°）。
    p2500+10° or 700bucks？
    What you guys think？
     
    momo91315, Aug 28, 2012
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  24. hackness

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    Notice the GPU temp showed in Furmark is only 74C, maybe that's the GTX680M on the right when you flip the P370EM over. And the other one is running at 95C. Also the 3820QM hit 100C+, dual heatsink didn't work well I guess.
     
    hackness, Aug 28, 2012
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  25. momo91315

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    and the 95° one has already downclock。
     
    momo91315, Aug 28, 2012
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  26. hackness

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    It's natural to see the GTX680M throttles while running Furmark. And it does throttle since the start. And if you check HWINFO's detail, the 1st GTX680M only maxed out at 82C while the 2nd one maxed out at 95C. The 2nd GTX680M just didn't have enough cooling. I could be because the fan is shared with the CPU's extended heatsink or the paste job wasn't well done.

    So yea basically the 2nd GTX680M is hitting 95C with just 324/1800, the cooling on the 2nd GTX680M is really bad.
     
    hackness, Aug 28, 2012
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    I need 3 things in my P370EM:
    1.) AMD 7970m
    2.) i7 3740QM (any ETA date on release?)
    3.) Corsair SSD (next generation)
     
    b0b1man, Aug 28, 2012
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    jclausius, Aug 28, 2012
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  30. fenryr423

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    Well they also posted it on their FB page which is governed by them
     
    fenryr423, Aug 28, 2012
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    Tried installing P370EM's X-Fi MB2 suit on the P170EM, it seems like in the P370EM they are using one with complete different hardware ID, however the THX Studio Pro is updated to 1.04.12. Hopefully there'll be some modders adding the P150EM/P170EM hardware ID into X-Fi MB2 like on the ASUS G73 series :D.
     
    hackness, Aug 28, 2012
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  32. Larry@LPC-Digital

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  34. spectroplasm

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    like this one? ;) [​IMG]
    working perfectly on my NYX7112 (P170EM)
     
    spectroplasm, Aug 28, 2012
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  35. hackness

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    Wow it's really working? I couldn't even get pass the activation check on mine after installed :D. Which X-Fi MB2 package did you use tho? The hardware ID for the integrated sound card that the P370EM is using should be HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0269&SUBSYS_15583700 (inf mining again :D).

    Could you check your hardware ID and see if you see anything similar to that? :)
     
    hackness, Aug 28, 2012
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  36. hackness

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    By the way I made a mistake in the previous post, typed P170EM instead of P150EM :p
     
    hackness, Aug 28, 2012
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  37. extide

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    XFi-MB is 100% software and will work on any platform. All yu need is a license for it and it works...
     
    extide, Aug 28, 2012
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  38. hackness

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    Well it doesn't let me activate, says cannot find Creative product and error. Was the X-Fi MB2 originally for the P150EM/P170EM or from other sources?
     
    hackness, Aug 28, 2012
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  39. spectroplasm

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    @Hackness
    HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0892&SUBSYS_15587102&REV_1003
    HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0892&SUBSYS_15587102

    Those are m P170Em's Hw Id's, the package I used weren't for the P170EM but pieced together from various sources.
     
    spectroplasm, Aug 29, 2012
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  40. 1rarebuy

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    Man those temps... what a letdown. I had such high expectations too :frown:

    I really wanted to SLI both to about 7-8 thousand (3d mark 11) and destroy. No chance.
     
    1rarebuy, Aug 29, 2012
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  41. imglidinhere

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    So the new P370EM is the 17.3" "re-configured" P180HM? o-O

    Clevo, y u troll me so hard? D:
     
    imglidinhere, Aug 29, 2012
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  42. hackness

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    I see, same soundcard as the P150EM's but with a different sub system ID, if you don't mind, could you leave some hints where to obtain that? :D
     
    hackness, Aug 29, 2012
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  43. extide

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    Well, I meant it doesn't depend on hardware to work, however it may be locked to certain hardware or something like that due to licensing purposes.
     
    extide, Aug 29, 2012
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  44. mythlogic

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    Pssst, they are up on our site now for pre-order :)

    ETA Second week in September.
     
    mythlogic, Aug 30, 2012
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  45. extide

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    Damn, if this laptop was out when I bought mine I would have gotten it instead.
     
    extide, Aug 30, 2012
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    wow⊙o⊙，3720+680sli+killer1103+2year warranty（no os，no hard drive）just $2836! Wait to see how nice a price xotic will give(*￣∇￣ ;)
     
    momo91315, Aug 30, 2012
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  47. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    No need to wonder you can check it out, we also have it up for pre order.
     
    Support.3@XOTIC PC, Aug 31, 2012
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    Great work Xotic! With the same setup, its just over $100 dollars less than what I paid. How much is shipping to Canada? Why is there a wait for your 7970m's?
     
    sdavies86, Aug 31, 2012
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  49. extide

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    Hrmm, I wonder if I can buy the BB and a single 680m somewhere, and then sell my BB...

    I kinda dont want a 17" though...
     
    extide, Aug 31, 2012
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    Shipping prices are listed during checkout but if you PM me I let you know. Its frowned upon for us to list any prices.
    The 7970M will be available a couple weeks after the Nvidia options are, trying to get clarification why but I'd guess they may use a different motherboard then the Nvidia ones. Thats pending verification however.
     
    Support.3@XOTIC PC, Aug 31, 2012
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