The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
← Previous pageNext page →

    Clevo P370em

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by fantomasz, May 23, 2012.

  1. 1rarebuy

    1rarebuy Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    56
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    16
    I read that entire review (using google translate) in a german accent in my mind. What is wrong with me? :(

    Good review though, benchmarks were a little skewed.
     
    1rarebuy, Aug 15, 2012
    #201
  2. amirfoox

    amirfoox Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    260
    Messages:
    626
    Likes Received:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    31
    LOL!!!!

    '..Here comez ze Leipzig provider of built-to-order eqvipment against its business model, of course, because based on a barebonez case ze user has ze most free choice betveen a variety of componentz.'
     
    amirfoox, Aug 15, 2012
    #202
  3. jaug1337

    jaug1337 de_dust2

    Reputations:
    2,135
    Messages:
    4,862
    Likes Received:
    1,031
    Trophy Points:
    231
    jaug1337, Aug 15, 2012
    #203
  4. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

    Reputations:
    9,426
    Messages:
    58,171
    Likes Received:
    17,882
    Trophy Points:
    931
    £1900 for one 680M and a 3720qm, 8GB of ram and 256GB M4.

    Ouch.

    But nice all the same.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Aug 15, 2012
    #204
  5. ForestEX

    ForestEX Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    4
    Messages:
    68
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    16
    I hope Digital Storm Picks this clevo up, i like their prices best (though they are a bit limited in comparison to mythlogic or xotic.)
     
    ForestEX, Aug 15, 2012
    #205
  6. jaug1337

    jaug1337 de_dust2

    Reputations:
    2,135
    Messages:
    4,862
    Likes Received:
    1,031
    Trophy Points:
    231
    And they have a far weirder reputation.. lol
     
    jaug1337, Aug 15, 2012
    #206
  7. ForestEX

    ForestEX Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    4
    Messages:
    68
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Hubba What?, bad weird or what?
     
    ForestEX, Aug 15, 2012
    #207
  8. b0b1man

    b0b1man Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    597
    Messages:
    1,092
    Likes Received:
    29
    Trophy Points:
    66
    How about a Crossfire review with P370EM? Now that Enduro is gone (at least in 370EM), Im looking forward to the benchmarks and lower (much lower) prices than the SLI variant.
    Now, I need 2 things:
    - review with crossfire
    - availability of the refreshed CPU line (3740QM, 3840QM)
    After those 2 requirements are met, Im gonna order mine.
     
    b0b1man, Aug 16, 2012
    #208
  9. rockaholik

    rockaholik Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    20
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    6
    I would looove to see the cooling system of this beast and the real temps. I hope a good review is on its way.
     
    rockaholik, Aug 16, 2012
    #209
  10. jaug1337

    jaug1337 de_dust2

    Reputations:
    2,135
    Messages:
    4,862
    Likes Received:
    1,031
    Trophy Points:
    231
    jaug1337, Aug 16, 2012
    #210
  11. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

    Reputations:
    21,580
    Messages:
    35,370
    Likes Received:
    9,877
    Trophy Points:
    931
    It should be ;)
     
    HTWingNut, Aug 16, 2012
    #211
  12. momo91315

    momo91315 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    44
    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    7970mcf got 9900(p) and 3100(x) in 3d11. Data is from a Chinese forum
     
    momo91315, Aug 16, 2012
    #212
  13. hackness

    hackness Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    1,237
    Messages:
    2,367
    Likes Received:
    427
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Let's see how much the 680M sli will get :p Probably break 10k.
     
    hackness, Aug 16, 2012
    #213
  14. momo91315

    momo91315 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    44
    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    680msli got 10000(p) but 3700(x). Test cpu for both is 3820qm.
     
    momo91315, Aug 16, 2012
    #214
  15. hackness

    hackness Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    1,237
    Messages:
    2,367
    Likes Received:
    427
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Wow nice, 600 more points on Extreme mode.
     
    hackness, Aug 16, 2012
    #215
  16. hizzaah

    hizzaah Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    1,672
    Messages:
    2,418
    Likes Received:
    289
    Trophy Points:
    101
    @momo91315 you have a link for those numbers?
     
    hizzaah, Aug 16, 2012
    #216
  17. momo91315

    momo91315 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    44
    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    :p here are the links
    ¡¾ÆÀ²â¡¿ÍâÐÇÈËM18XµÄÇ¿¾¢¶ÔÊÖÀ¶ÌìP370EMµØÇòÈ˹ٷ½ÆÀ²â°®²ð¿Í±Ê¼Ç±¾¸Ä×°Íø ׼ϵͳ CLEVO À¶Ìì µØÇòÈË Geek ¼«¿Í ±Ê¼Ç±¾²ð½â ±Ê¼Ç±¾²ð»ú ±Ê¼Ç±¾¸Ä×° ±Ê¼Ç±¾¸ÄÔì ±Ê¼Ç±¾³¬Æµ ±Ê¼Ç±¾Éý¼¶ ±Ê¼Ç±¾Î¬ÐÞ ±Ê¼Ç±¾É¢ÈÈ ±Ê¼Ç±¾ÏÔ¿¨ ±Ê¼Ç±¾´¦ÀíÆ÷ ±Ê¼Ç±¾Íâ¿Ç ±Ê¼Ç±¾ÄÚ´æ ±Ê¼Ç±¾Ó²ÅÌ ←7970mcf
    ¡¾CLEVO¡¿À¶Ìì×îÃÍSLI GTX680MµÄclevo P370EM µØÇòÈ˹ٷ½ÂÛ̳ÆÀ²â°®²ð¿Í±Ê¼Ç±¾¸Ä×°Íø ׼ϵͳ CLEVO À¶Ìì µØÇòÈË Geek ¼«¿Í ±Ê¼Ç±¾²ð½â ±Ê¼Ç±¾²ð»ú ±Ê¼Ç±¾¸Ä×° ±Ê¼Ç±¾¸ÄÔì ±Ê¼Ç±¾³¬Æµ ±Ê¼Ç±¾Éý¼¶ ±Ê¼Ç±¾Î¬ÐÞ ±Ê¼Ç±¾É¢ÈÈ ±Ê¼Ç±¾ÏÔ¿¨ ±Ê¼Ç±¾´¦ÀíÆ÷ ±Ê¼Ç±¾Íâ¿Ç ±Ê¼Ç±¾ÄÚ´æ ±← 680msli
     
    momo91315, Aug 16, 2012
    #217
  18. hizzaah

    hizzaah Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    1,672
    Messages:
    2,418
    Likes Received:
    289
    Trophy Points:
    101
    awesome, thanks

    +rep
     
    hizzaah, Aug 17, 2012
    #218
  19. Pyjamator

    Pyjamator Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Pyjamator, Aug 19, 2012
    #219
  20. b0b1man

    b0b1man Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    597
    Messages:
    1,092
    Likes Received:
    29
    Trophy Points:
    66
    Well, thats what Im opting for. CF in my future P370EM, hope it becomes available in september (not october or later).
     
    b0b1man, Aug 19, 2012
    #220
  21. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

    Reputations:
    21,580
    Messages:
    35,370
    Likes Received:
    9,877
    Trophy Points:
    931
    That 3DMark11 score is a bit troubling. Considering you can easily reach 8200+ easily with an 1.037v overclock on a single 680m, and possibly 9500+ with a larger power supply and slight more bump in voltage.
     
    HTWingNut, Aug 19, 2012
    #221
  22. sirana

    sirana Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    267
    Messages:
    748
    Likes Received:
    329
    Trophy Points:
    76
    Definately driver bottlenecked. Also, as Tirenz once said, AMD is good for benching, but thats it. Matches for my 6970M's perfectly. In games they suck so often because of CF drivers.
     
    sirana, Aug 19, 2012
    #222
  23. b0b1man

    b0b1man Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    597
    Messages:
    1,092
    Likes Received:
    29
    Trophy Points:
    66
    When you add the fact that (still) few games support crossfire, you are even more screwed.
    I asked myself many times whether or not to opt for a single 7970m in a 370EM, but leaving an open slot....dunno if they have something to fill the gap, else the laptop's weight would be unbalanced. Imagine your laptop case tipping to one side always when you carry it. Odd...
     
    b0b1man, Aug 19, 2012
    #223
  24. jaug1337

    jaug1337 de_dust2

    Reputations:
    2,135
    Messages:
    4,862
    Likes Received:
    1,031
    Trophy Points:
    231
    SLi 680M :D
     
    jaug1337, Aug 19, 2012
    #224
  25. ForestEX

    ForestEX Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    4
    Messages:
    68
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    16
    ...But the 680m's downclock..or something (forgot the term) in 3dmark11 don't they? or is that furmark only?
     
    ForestEX, Aug 19, 2012
    #225
  26. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

    Reputations:
    4,125
    Messages:
    11,571
    Likes Received:
    9,148
    Trophy Points:
    931
    u mean throttling? as far as i remember it was about throttling in games/futuremark benchmarks when a certain amount of OC is reached...otherwise its throttling at stock in furmark and OCCT, but thats been around since 580M days.

    cheers
     
    jaybee83, Aug 19, 2012
    #226
  27. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

    Reputations:
    21,580
    Messages:
    35,370
    Likes Received:
    9,877
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Right, it's 680m SLI, but less than 20% faster than the single 680m. I wouldn't expect it to be double, but at least 60-80% faster.
     
    HTWingNut, Aug 19, 2012
    #227
  28. ForestEX

    ForestEX Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    4
    Messages:
    68
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    16
    ForestEX, Aug 20, 2012
    #228
  29. ForestEX

    ForestEX Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    4
    Messages:
    68
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Bah, Limited to 1333MHz on the RAM section...
     
    ForestEX, Aug 20, 2012
    #229
  30. jaug1337

    jaug1337 de_dust2

    Reputations:
    2,135
    Messages:
    4,862
    Likes Received:
    1,031
    Trophy Points:
    231
    Drivers my friend.. Drivers

    It'll be sorted out at some point, remember the 580M days? I mean if this works, then yeah weehaauu
     
    jaug1337, Aug 20, 2012
    #230
  31. robcwalker

    robcwalker Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    robcwalker, Aug 21, 2012
    #231
  32. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

    Reputations:
    21,580
    Messages:
    35,370
    Likes Received:
    9,877
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Their stock 5125 is quite low, most users get 3DMark11 6200+ stock. Plus overclocked, a single 680m can easily exceed 8000 with one of the 1.037V BIOS's floating around, and with extreme conditions, higher rated PSU, etc likely 9000+. That was my point. 10000 score for an SLI system vs 8000-9000 for a single GPU, granted requiring an OC. I think there's still some room for improvement with drivers though.
     
    HTWingNut, Aug 21, 2012
    #232
  33. 1rarebuy

    1rarebuy Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    56
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Can't you flash the BIOS'(es) separately for each card and OC them that way? I remember reading this somewhere. It's tricky, but do-able.
     
    1rarebuy, Aug 21, 2012
    #233
  34. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

    Reputations:
    9,426
    Messages:
    58,171
    Likes Received:
    17,882
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Yes you can direct the flashing of each bios.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Aug 21, 2012
    #234
  35. ForestEX

    ForestEX Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    4
    Messages:
    68
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    16
    have we had -any- failures/uh-oh's from people using the custom vbios? (may or may not try this when i finally settle on a build.)

    Also, i'm guessing that resellers couldn't do this for us without taking heat from nvidia?(or clevo)
     
    ForestEX, Aug 21, 2012
    #235
  36. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

    Reputations:
    9,426
    Messages:
    58,171
    Likes Received:
    17,882
    Trophy Points:
    931
    It's likely done deliberately.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Aug 21, 2012
    #236
  37. jaug1337

    jaug1337 de_dust2

    Reputations:
    2,135
    Messages:
    4,862
    Likes Received:
    1,031
    Trophy Points:
    231
    Assuming the resellers would take the fault for funny vBIOS' :p
     
    jaug1337, Aug 22, 2012
    #237
  38. spectroplasm

    spectroplasm Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    145
    Messages:
    196
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    @Meaker do you have a vbios mod for 580/675m series cards? I know they run hotter than he 680 or 670 ones but would want to have a littlemore oumph out o 'em for rendering projects and cuda apps
     
    spectroplasm, Aug 22, 2012
    #238
  39. ForestEX

    ForestEX Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    4
    Messages:
    68
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Would you guys say that the 600 Watt AC Adapter Option (eurocom) is neccesary for a dual 680m build on this unit?
     
    ForestEX, Aug 22, 2012
    #239
  40. hizzaah

    hizzaah Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    1,672
    Messages:
    2,418
    Likes Received:
    289
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Depends on what you're using it for.. Word processing, no.. Gaming/overclocking, yes.
     
    hizzaah, Aug 22, 2012
    #240
  41. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

    Reputations:
    9,426
    Messages:
    58,171
    Likes Received:
    17,882
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Gaming at stock is fine, not so much for overclocking.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Aug 22, 2012
    #241
  42. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

    Reputations:
    9,368
    Messages:
    6,297
    Likes Received:
    16,481
    Trophy Points:
    681
    GTX675m_P1_092v .bin

    Clevo BIOS @ 0.92v

    You can also just crossflash a 580M to 675M.
     
    Prema, Aug 22, 2012
    #242
  43. spectroplasm

    spectroplasm Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    145
    Messages:
    196
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    ow baby :) :) thanks prema! +rep

    which tools do I need to flash these in there now? just want to make sure before doing anything with them
     
    spectroplasm, Aug 22, 2012
    #243
  44. hackness

    hackness Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    1,237
    Messages:
    2,367
    Likes Received:
    427
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Nvflash that's newer than .105, just use the command nvflash -4 -5 -6 name.rom and follow the instruction on screen and force flash :D.
     
    hackness, Aug 22, 2012
    #244
  45. Support.3@XOTIC PC

    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

    Reputations:
    1,268
    Messages:
    7,186
    Likes Received:
    1,002
    Trophy Points:
    331
    When the NP7280/7282 was active there were some reports of people tripping a single AC Adapter when running dual video cards and the EE CPU. This would happen when really stressing the computer like running Furmark and 3D mark at the same time. The solution was dual AC Adapters. Those were Desktop CPU's though so they drew a little more power. Since these are mobile CPU's it might not be necessary, we'll have to wait to get our hands on one to see it's needed on these.
     
    Support.3@XOTIC PC, Aug 22, 2012
    #245
  46. XMG

    XMG Company Representative

    Reputations:
    749
    Messages:
    1,754
    Likes Received:
    2,197
    Trophy Points:
    181
    We tested the P370EM with maxed out config (3920XM, 680M SLI, 32GB RAM, many Hard Disks) and we reached exactly 302W on the wall socket with Furmark + Prime.
    Therefor we estimate that dual PSU is not necessary for gaming at stock clocks. With Gaming you never reach the same CPU/GPU load level as you do with F+P, so there should still be a lot of room for overclocking in real-world scenarios.
     
    XMG, Aug 22, 2012
    #246
  47. jclausius

    jclausius Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    6,160
    Messages:
    3,265
    Likes Received:
    2,573
    Trophy Points:
    231
    What about the heat dissipation? Is there a lot of room for OC'ing with the amt of heat generated by the i7-3920XM or 680GTX-M SLIs ?
     
    jclausius, Aug 22, 2012
    #247
  48. hackness

    hackness Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    1,237
    Messages:
    2,367
    Likes Received:
    427
    Trophy Points:
    101
    I'm curious about temp with the 3920XM in 370EM past 4.0GHz on 4 cores, since the CPU has extended heatpipe and fins.
     
    hackness, Aug 22, 2012
    #248
  49. spectroplasm

    spectroplasm Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    145
    Messages:
    196
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    ok flashed the card with Prema's bin file, hope all goes well. Doing some testing rounds now
     
    spectroplasm, Aug 22, 2012
    #249
  50. Bytales

    Bytales Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    56
    Messages:
    690
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Not to mention that 680m SLI will push in a lot of games more than 60 fps. When you play with vsync on, because of 60 fps limitation, the gpu load will be less, therefore will use less power. Depending on game, it will use less than 200 W i think. So there should be no problem.
     
    Bytales, Aug 22, 2012
    #250
← Previous pageNext page →