Clevo P870DM n00bie's guide

I activate already the gsync from panel but automatically start also the vsync,
I have to disabled the vsync? And leave only gsync?

Anyway about my ram i follow you in your videos but when i try to go 2800 Mhz i have to reset the cmos, the same if i try to go 2666 Mhz, anyway i listen to you , i leave ram as default.
I will buy the new gskill 3000 Mhz when will be released.
I want to say thanks to you Phoenix, u help always people in this forum so thanks a lot bro
(Sorry for my english)

 

Vsync on or off won't make a difference if Gsync is on. Gsync handles everything so you would experience a smooth FPS with no tearing so turn VSYNC off

 

Vsync on really comes in to play if your output FPS can exceed the monitor refresh rate.

 

Guys i didn't find some guide to go from ahci to raid in windows 10 without lose data... The one for windows 8 doesn't work for windows 10, somebody know something about that?

 

Not a huge amount of information out there, but I did see this:

https://social.technet.microsoft.co...-reinstalling-win-10?forum=win10itprohardware

It suggests you can use the windows 8 method be need to be careful of the versions of the driver you are using.

 

Thanks bro, anyway about this procedure i wait something new because didn't work due to windows 10 make a scan of drive before starting the os, even in safe mode, and windows 8 do not check the raid or ahci setting (when is in a safe mode) and you can swap how you want.[/QUOTE]

 

I'd never do that on my system even if there was a way. Clean install FTW

NBR Windows 10 Clean Installation Guide

Clevo P870DM/DM-G Drivers Mirror

 

Definitely back your important files up before making changes. If you can't get it to quite work out, you could always do the clean install.

 

Odd as the person in that thread said it works.

 

I used the video to get a start on a basic CPU overclock in the BIOS (Thanks Phoenix).

I could not figure out why my CPU maxed out at 3900 rather than 4200 (which I also noticed is what it was doing completely stock as well). Finally I decided to check my power plan and I noticed that it will only go to 4200 when in Performance mode, and balanced maxes out at 3900 even when stressed 100% on all 8 threads.

I know everyone will say they always use performance mode, but this does not make any sense to me. Only the minimum processor state is less on balanced, both power modes max at 100% and should both hit 4200 I would think.

I have always scored better in benchmarks and games when in balanced mode, which I always attributed to the CPU having a chance to cool down a bit in less demanding tasks. I figured it was throttling less on balanced than performance. This is the first time I have ever seen boost be higher in performance mode.

The only other thing I can think of is do you think it something to do with the Clevo control center? I did notice when changing modes in the windows settings menu I would get a runtime error when attempting to get back to the power mode screen. Eventually I found out I could change it from the control center instead and I received no error from there. So maybe that has something to do with it? This is a fresh, clean windows 10 install and minimal changes/programs installed so far.

 

Power settings. Your max power isn't set properly.

 

Can you give me a hint? You mean in the bios? I can go back and double check them all. I didn't really change much as most of mine were already like the video. I actually lowered some settings that were 10x higher than what the video showed.

 

Yeap, check on the CPU options page, the Max turbo power limits. I have a feeling they are 392 or something.

 

The video said to put them at 480 but I put 640 in there. Stock it was 8100 lol.

 

Yeah..., If he has not changed this self in bios, then is the power short/max set around 37-39000. Will not get far with this.

 

I just double checked and I could not find any settings off. The ones he said to set at 480 or 640 I have at 640, and the ones he said 130,000 or 160,000 I put at 160,000. The rest were already at 250,000.

 

can you post a few pictures of the CPU page and the Overclocking section?

 

Yeah I can, but it looks just like the video in the first post though. I really think it's a windows/control center issue. Especially since I get that runtime error in the settings panel if I click on "additional power settings".

 

Wait, do you have xtu installed my any chance?

 

I do not, I really wanted to avoid it, that was part of the reason I wanted to OC in the bios to begin with. If it will help in troubleshooting I will install it though.

 

Maybe uninstall CC. Then install it again.

 

Nope, dont. I think you have some windows updates missing or something. Also try updating your control center.
Also i have a feeling either your power maxes in the BIOS are not set properly or windows processor max isnt set properly.

 

Well too late I installed it lol. It confirms what I was seeing though. Runs at 3900mhz when in balanced and wprime running 8 threads, and 4200 when in performance.

I can look for an updated control center, I used the one in the driver thread that Phoenix keeps updated so I figured it was a new as I could get.

I will grab any remaining Windows updates, I hadn't thought of that, thanks.

*I cannot believe how silent this thing is. Max fans sounds exactly like the minimum fans on my GT80. They either turn off or get so quiet I can no longer hear them too, that is crazy considering the desktop components inside.

 

Definitely some power setting is wrong sometimes they change after a reboot.

 

I've rebooted a bunch of times, cold boots too. I may have to reset the BIOS back to default but don't want to screw up my raid setup like I did last week in my old laptop. Lost all my game saves since my last backup.

Thanks for your help so far, I will keep looking. Everything is running pretty good but this is a weird issue that will bother me until I get it figured out.

Is it odd that HWinfo64 shows peak CPU power usage of 50w? I thought it would be around double that when at 100% and max clocks. I wasn't sure if HWinfo didn't read the proper power usage. Or maybe my HWinfo needs to be updated.

 

Your processor will never reach power usage of about 100w with your clock speed under max load.
Test and see if you get correct stock score(9.61-9.72 pts) http://downloads.guru3d.com/downloadget.php?id=2475&file=1&evp=841d9cacb0e0de71ffd9de0248868ad9

 

Im telling you there is a Turbo Power max not set properly. I have had this issue randomly.

 

It just seems odd to use about what a mobile CPU uses, under what conditions does it use the 91w? I figured stock it would hit 91, and overclocked would just go up from there.

I got a 9.99 with the current settings I have right now. Thanks Papusan, that's all I needed, one more benchmark to screw around with all the time

The Windows update fixed it. It was a major update where it changed versions. I'm not sure how it was related to the issue but it seems fixed now. Running balanced and it pegs at 4.2 easily. Thanks to everyone who helped. Simple fix yet I hadn't considered it. Now I'm off to bed so I can get up early and play. 4 day weekend for me!

 

Delete, duplicate post

 

What are you going to be playing? I will hopefully get back to some good DOOM.

 

I'm actually playing Dying Light the Following. I was a decent way into the new content and then I lost my save due to removing my raid drives and not remembering that the BIOS would reset the settings and I gave up trying to figure out which one went where and what the settings I used were.

I really want to play Doom but I am trying to hold back since I really try to avoid steam. 90% of my purchases are on GoG now. No Man's Sky is my next big one that I am looking forward to.

Played some Mad Max at 4k on this new machine, and wow I may have to play through it a 2nd time

Haven't played much today because I got hung up on cleaning up my media collection, getting them all labeled and sorted, art and movie info downloaded using Media Companion and learning to use Kodi media player. The desktop CPU really makes the entire use of the machine much snappier than what I am used to.

 

I moved my wife to a 4th gen i5 from and amd apu and she has a 4tb archive drive along with a 500gb ssd. Now she can do more than one task like video encoding and still browse the web without issue.

 

idk why it double posted, pls delete

 

I'm trying to apply the generic settings from that scrshot in post 1, but one option is grayed out. any idea why? it's the "turbo boost short power short power max" is there a way to enable it? sager9870-g is the laptop.
https://i.gyazo.com/fdb432975da4c99c50030a8a12204696.png

thanks in advance, you guys made me switch from MSI and i've never been happier.

 

It's likely not unlocked in the BIOS but should not impact you.

 

how would i unlock it in the bios? or if i need to buy a prema bios, where do i buy that from? as i dont see the sager 9870 there

 

If you bought from a reseller that supports the Prema BIOS you can ask them about getting it on your machine but they should have already had it on there if you did.

 

Are you having issues with your clocks?

 

I was trying to OC it a little bit to the default clocks in this topic here
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-overclockers-lounge.788975/
but that one setting isn't allowing itself to be changed. Is it safe to OC if I can't change that setting?

 

We'll, you always need to work with some caution when overclocking, and work your way up to the higher speeds. Also, OC'ing will cause the CPU to work harder and hotter, so you would need to maybe improve cooling. But, as you've seen it is very possible to overclock that model. It does require a BIOS change though, as the default Sager one doesn't have all the same options.

 

where would i get that? as i got mine from XOTICPC.

 

We don't offer a custom BIOS like that, Sager just offers their stock BIOS.

 

It's no more dangerous than any other overclocking i'll say that much

 

awesome so i can go ahead and try those preset clocks from page one? it wont like built a wall around my keyboard?

 

I would always test each setting and know what each does before playing myself. Going blind into these things is never a good idea.

Every chip is different so each will need to be tuned.

 

aight so ill change everything one by one, benchmark, and then change.

 

so the 4.4 clocks are ok to do on air?

 

Every chip and system is different so no one can say. Only you can say if it is and see how long it lasts.

 

try going up slowly. things like airflow, ventilation, room temperature, ac and others can change it for person to person.

 

Temps will determine that. Most 6700K seem to clock up to 4.5GHz very stable with stock voltage. Depending on what your load temps are, the CPU might be stable yet too warm, so you will have to find out by checking. If the temps are high, leave everything else alone if it is stable and simply drop the core ratio (multiplier).

Using the Prema BIOS, you will need to increase the power limits because when you enable overclocking in the BIOS they will drop to below stock and the CPU won't be able to hold turbo clocks. Set both power limits to at least 125000. You can set those limits as high as you want and it won't affect temperatures. The CPU will only use what it needs and ignore the rest of the unused amps/watts that it does not require.