Clevo Resellers in the European Union -V1

You're doing a great job!

Here is what I was thinking of.

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[*]XNB® Computers Danmark, high performance laptops

[*]MM-Vision A/S - Specialister i Computer, Notebook, Mediacenter og PC Hardware.

[*][url=http://www.novabook.dk/]Nova Books - Velkommen til Nova Book - Notebooks for everyone[/url]

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...will produce this:

I feel like this editing will make it easier to distinguish the links from each other. However, this is tidious work, hehe...

 

Or you could use tables like I do in the Clevo BIOS section.

 

No sorry I don't know, but I reckon it should start at the exact moment as the NDA gets lifted, same goes to the P150EM.

First of all, thanks!!
Second, I just used your method and I must admit it looks quite well. Also it's quite time consuming but oh well someone gotta do it Enjoy

Well I just updated it using the tables like oan001 suggested You can feedback if you like, I might use your tables if you feel it would work better

P.S. I also changed all the website URL's to their original splash name to not confuse people.

 

Honestly I don't think those lines make a lot of difference.

 

Yeah I was trying to mimic the ability to create tables... didn't work out the way I though would appreciate if you could teach me to do those kind of tables you did

 

Nope, not right now - sorry.

 

So I assume this will be possible at some point? Anyways, just noticed your Roccat laptop versions went online again, when are the P502 Roccat version going live? Can't wait to get one of those

On topic: Just fixed some bugs in names and such.

 

What about adding in which resellers are on this forum and how to contact them, just like the one for the US resellers? konsulten.se, mysn.de and myself are about off the top of my head. I'm sure there are a few more though.

 

Well I tried, sadly I'm very bad at making a thread smooth so do feedback. Also I might just add the different logos/icons of the resellers, so it'll look more beautiful and probably easier to overcome as a reader. That wall of confusing text does not look pleasant at all...

 

Nitpickin' time ... re the thread title: Switzerland and Turkey are not in the EU, and Turkey isn't even in Europe. Well, they are sort of halfway in, but ...

If it's European Clevo resellers you want, I can add http://www.multicom.no/ in Norway. Norway is not in the EU either, btw. Europe and the European Union (EU) is not the same thing There are something like 23 European countries that are EU members, about 18 are not.

So - If you want EU resellers only, you should kick out the Swiss and the Turks from the list in the first post.
If you really mean European resellers (+Turkey) the thread title is misleading.

 

Very keen on getting a laptop from either PwnPCs.co.uk or PCSpecialist.co.uk, i'm just waiting to see what the Ivy Bridge model laptops will be like. Have waited far too long to buy a laptop!

 

I don't see the 7970M on MySN website.

 

You are correct.

Unfortanetly I'm just really busy at the current moment, so I'll come back later today and answer why I've done how I've done.

Same! The 7970M is really the bombshell for me, definitely going for a P150EM later this month!! Ivy and 7970M! Perfect

mySN.de are usually a little late with their announcements and updates, but nevertheless you surely are going to see the newest AMD card on their list I'm sure of that

 

Yay, another Dane I'm also ordering from one of those two, I don't think the Danish resellers look particularly reputable and they don't carry what I want anyway. Shame, really.

 

Saying that Turkey isn't in Europe (the continent!) is like saying that Russia isn't in Europe-while true in a way, it is not a complete truth. Check the map. Plus, few centuries back the Turkish European territory went almost as far as Vienna. But, then at end of the 18th and finally beginning of the 20th century we finally pushed back into Asia.
EU has 27 member states, next year to get the 28th. While Swiss and Norway aren't in EU per se, they are members of the economic area and other organisations, rendering the EU membership for these two countries unnecessary.
Turkey is another story. They have close ties to Europe culturally, economically and politically. EU membership is decades away at this point. Lets say I am from Greece and there is no re-sellers in Greece. Turkey is my neighbouring country. There are Clevo re-sellers there. I go and order a piece of tech from them. AND, since I (say) live 10 km from the border, it arrives after 7 days... Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So, when the people ask about European re-sellers they are actually looking for any info on the closest as possible re-seller. Sure, their hometown based re-seller would be the best.

 

IMHO, Turkey, Sweden, Norway etc. they should all be in this thread. This is the only list like this and why dividing things, when we could have one proper list?

Shipping between all those countries on the "European continent" is much easier than getting it from overseas.

 

Seeing as you're both NBR members if you PM me before you pull the trigger we'll sort you out free shipping or some extra RAM or something

 

I agree with you, and agree with cmick25 above - my point was just to show that the thread title is misleading if this list is going to include as many resellers as possible that are within the european continent or "economic zone" - can I put it like that? Most European countries, even those outside of the EU, are already members of the same trade and economic organisations, except perhaps from Ukraine and Russia, meaning that trade (shopping) between these countries are relatively simple and straightforward. That doesn't mean that every dealer in this list is totally happy about shipping across borders though! But, if we should divide listings of Clevo resellers into North American, European, Asian and so forth, I think all European resellers should be included in the European list, regardless of EU membership. That is just as natural as having US and Canadian resellers in the same North American listing. And I think Turkey have a natural place in the European list then, too.
There are a few countries that would qualify for both European and Asian inclusion, like Russia, Turkey, Kazakhstan and Georgia.

But the main point is, that if this list is going to be like a "where is the dealers closest to me?" kind of a list, then surely EU membership or not is irrelevant.

 

Me too. Let's just wait until we have a price point and a real release date. The sample is coming soon (yeeeha!) and we're gonna have some real benchmark scores. But ordering the 7970M right now is useless without any real data.

 

I was asking mySN the same question about 7970M - but i am looking for P170EM with IVY and 7970M - i found some days ago reseller in Poland that already have 7970M on their custom builds - and Yup - there is also P150EM
BLUEMOBILITY

You should ask them - they speak English

 

If you are in EU and you order from the non-EU European resellers you will have to pay extra import taxes which should be at least as VAT. You need to plan accordingly when you order.

 

Okay here we go, this post is going to be freaking large enjoy the read !

I understand what you are concerned about and what you are pin-pointing.

Switzerland and Turkey are in the political geography of EU. There are various common definitions of Europe and I'm not here to educate anyone about them all, nor do I know them all either.

Now the actual real members of the EU Union are the digits: 27. 27 countries are in the real EU or w/e it's called.
These countries are obligated to some rules but on the other hand they thereby subject to the privileges and obligations of EU membership! In this case, free shipping and VAT-control by country etc etc

Some countries are geographically inside Europe, and I've made my choice to include them in this thread.
I will make it rather understandable and simple, those who are not in the EU Union will be marked somehow (I will get onto something to make it simple) so people will know that the general EU rules do not apply towards them.

I personally thinks that's a legit way to fix it people all over Europe should enjoy Clevo's and with that being said I hope I've answered your nitpickin'

It's true, however this isn't history class my dear friend haha, per se they are indeed members of the economic area and so on, therefore I'll mark the countries which are not official in the European Union by choice and which are by. (see above for more information )

Yes, I believe I've fixed that, see above, I will make a small references towards footnotes regarding the advantages of being in the European Union, just a few to clear the fog up.

Yes that was my original idea, the concept behind it.

But as I march onto deeper grounds I must admit that several precautions must be taken so I've chosen to set several marks, references and such to make it easier for the buyers to recognize which resellers are in the EU Union by the face of the earth and which are by a membership.

That will be fixed with my little system of marks here and there again, see above.

P.S. It's 2:04 here so if I do make grammatical mistakes or some weird explanation it's because I'm tired and I've got school tomorrow.. (actually today )
... but nevertheless I hope I answered all of your questions, I'll update the OP asap!

 

Cheers for this list, too bad PWNPC's doesn't ship to Denmark. Might just have to go with PCSpecialist.co.uk instead... hopefully their prices can compare.

 

Errr, yes they do. Scott from there (also on this forum) offered us Danes free shipping (worth £32). Shoot him a PM to get the discount.

Scott's post: http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...esellers-european-union-v1-7.html#post8464686

 

Huh, I looked over the website but couldn't find anything. Cheers for that information

 

Exactly, as it stand right now. PWNPC's are currently the cheapest (all options available, 100% customized) in EU. And they ship (almost) everywhere.

And with that free shipping, I can't think of anything else you would want. Not even MySN.de has a NBR discount nor a discount or any kind. PWNPC's, IMO, offer a lot of god options and with if you bargain enough with them anything can happen

btw: If you want there are resellers in the DK too, but that VAT is killing me better off with PWNPC's right now

 

In that case I will definitely be purchasing from PWNPC's, it's just a matter of when I get the money to make the purchase Hopefully in the next week or two.

 

huh? There is also a VAT on pwnpcs prices UK being an EU country.
So basically VAT cannot make the difference between UK and DK

 

There's a big difference (well not big, but there's a noticeable difference).

The UK has a lower VAT than DK. Here in Europe, there's something called European Union value added tax (EU VAT) that requires that all the countries with the privileges of being in the EU Union, are supposed to have a standard VAT minimum rate of 15%.

In the Nordic countries (Scandinavia) we've got something called MOMS, MVA, VSK), and the Finnish ALV) // (basically the Nordic terms for VAT). Anyways the current standard rate of VAT in Denmark is 25%. That's insanely high!

The UK has a rate of 20%, Hungary has a rate of 27% (sad for them ) and Germany has 19%.

I hope I answered your "question"

 

Well the difference is actually big.

A 1500 Euro (excl. VAT) system will sell for 75 Euro less in the UK than in e.g. Sweden. That makes a difference in terms of international competition. Now, if your sales hit a threshold of X (approx. 20 000 Euro) to a specific country you will have to use the VAT of the receiving country but I doubt anyone is following this rule.

As a result there is no way a Hungarian reseller can sell to end-consumers in other countries.

 

Ok didn't know that you have actually 25% ... thats incredible...
I thought our austrian 20% are high...


haha, at least i know now why everything felt so expensive when i was in denmark

 

Yes precisely! Every little bit of the money counts and trust me, it's worth it to import from other countries to DK, the electronic is insanely expensive here..

Haha, now you feel me dat VAT lol pain in de butt

 

Didnt have to pay VAT when I ordered my lappy (sig). According to our laws here, if its for personal (office) use with receipt for my company, I may not pay VAT. And I didnt. That saved me the 19% of the end price when I ordered it from Germany (NEXOC).

As it stands right now, I have no idea what its gonna be if I order from the UK this year. Need to do research on that.

 

Well, that does not help you because your company is supposed to pay VAT in your own country (Edit: if you intend to sell it to yourself as a private person then you as a private person pay VAT | or you don't sell it to yourself and then it does not matter as companies "do not" pay VAT See clarification below). So actually you are not saving anything by doing this.

 

You only have to pay VAT if you resell the laptop. I did the same thing, bought my laptop from somewhere else in the EU and I never paid VAT for my laptop.

 

Ok that was bad phrasing of me, sorry. What I mean is that as a firm you can subtract in-going VAT so in effect you are "paying" VAT when using company money to pay for the imported good. Using private money is even worse though as that is VAT + income tax + whatever tax, money.

Summary: When buying as a company it does not matter where you import from, you should only bother with excl. VAT prices. As a consumer it does and then you want to buy from a low VAT country and look at the incl. VAT price.

 

My mistake there, had it in shipping quotes but not the other sections. Fixed now. Make sure you flick me an email or PM before you're ready to go through with it and we'll be able to sort you something.

Everyone else, thanks for your kind words. Much appreciated!

 

There we go, you guys (and to a future reference girls too!!) check out the front page just did some tweaks here and there. A clickable Countries list and several others things.......... Enjoy took me good 2-3 hours of tight work to finish.

Do tell if something needs to be fixed, changed etc etc

 

Da ble jeg fornøyd - tommelen opp

 

Exactly, man.

I love you, jaug1337. Platonically, of course.

After reading the above, I decided to go to a little corner and cry right now.

 

Tak! hehe took me a good while to fix all of your nitpickin'

Thanks, greatly appreciated

 

Excellent job jaug1337!
+1 rep

 

Thank you very much, I hope people find it useful

I will improve the OP from time to time. It kinda looks slightly messy.

 

Cheers, you should be hearing from me in a week or so. Just waiting a few more days and sorting out a couple things

 

Sitting in the same boat I'll first afford it next month or so, and by that time the 7970m and Ivy should be out!!

but yeah PWNPC's is my steady choice ATM

P.S. Just updated the OP to look better visually, do tell if I need to change, improve or literally remove/add something.

 

great effort done on the list

 

i think i have found a new company for the UK but not sure of service, reports etc It is called the cyberpowersystems in Gateshead, north east england, website is Custom Build Gaming PC, Desktop PC, Custom Computers, Gaming Laptops

 

Thank you very much

Great find! Just added it to the OP looks beautiful with all these resellers around EU.

 

Sounds good!

No clevo stuff there, it's all MSI isn't it?

 

It's Clevo alright

Xplorer X6-9600

under Laptops in the top category paragraph. Then scroll down and you'll notice a Clevo notebook between all those MSI's.